Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,BanjoRay Date: 13 Jan 10 - 08:06 PM The Bay Horse in Bentley near Doncaster was my favorite club in the early sixties, run by George Pearson and his then wife Sheena (now Miller). Lots of great acts and some superb floor singers. John Leonard did all the introductions and held the night together, with help from people like Roy Machin and many others giving some great floor spots. Hedgehog Pie and Christie Moore were practically regulars, as were Tony Capstick and Dave Burland. Great days with lots of fairly blurred memories..... |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Joe G Date: 13 Jan 10 - 06:23 PM Moved to Bradford in 82 I used to go to the Morley Club fairly often in the 80's - it was at the Angel. Also went to Topic at Star, Peel, Melborn & Cock & Bottle & now go to Irish Club Occasional visits to Bradshaw Tavern & Bacca Pipes (Keghley) at the Globe in 80s Still very occasionally go to Grove |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Tig Date: 13 Jan 10 - 06:13 PM Errrm - brain not connected on a load of them 60's The Grove, Leeds The Adelphi, Leeds The Memphis, Leeds Plus various others in and around..... Early 70's The Black Bull, Doncaster The Coach and Horses, Doncaster The Plough, Doncaster Bentley Plus ....... Later 70's Almost all the ones in the South Yorkshire Folk Association - you could go to a club every night of the weekand sometimes had a choice of more. Anywhere else John was prepared to drive to eg Black Swan York Anywhere I felt like going for 'work' - I wrote a folk column for 10 years! Can't remember the names of some of my favourites, curses!!!! |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,Alan Wood Date: 13 Jan 10 - 05:57 PM The Holy Gound at Bubwith ( near Howden ) was the Saturday night venue in the mid 70's... can't remember the actual pub's name . It was run very efficiently by Harvey and Val Lakin who booked the best. Harvey was a staunch Yorkshireman who suffered fools and 'southerners' with equal contempt.... 'here are no homosexuals in Yorkshire... we leave all that sort of thing to them buggers down south'... he possible never realised that his rant was a superb joke! We routinely saw The Watersons, Alex Cambell, Nic Jones, Vin Garbutt, Dave Burland and if the guest cried off at short notice then the very excellent and much missed Bill Price stepped in... happy days and nights. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Dennis the Elder Date: 13 Jan 10 - 04:03 PM Goole is certainly welcome to come back to the West Riding whenever it wants. Certainly Ray the folk clubs arround Barnsley were very active in the 60's and 70's as they are the present Barnsley Clubs. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,Dave Dee Date: 13 Jan 10 - 02:41 PM Can any one remember Jhon Wall and Geoff Pickles runing clubs in Morley and Leeds at about this time Dave |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Abdul The Bul Bul Date: 13 Jan 10 - 11:47 AM Yep, Upstairs at the Lowther for me too, just like a folk club should be, Beer Barrel tables with candles. John Smiths beer I think. There was a singers night on Fridays was it? At the Bluebell Inn down Fossgate. Not absolutely folky but community singing of the highest order. The Bluebell is another secret jewel of York, my home town, that hasn't changed much in the 40 years I've been away from it. Pete Maddens in High Petergate was frequented by us folkies and put on the odd folk night. Happy Days Al |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,Steve Gardham's in laws Date: 13 Jan 10 - 11:22 AM Goole Folk Club met every Monday night in the RAOB Club, Goole from around 1969 and it not only supplied romantic interest for Steve Gardham (we think he met his wife there), it also went on to nurture a little concertina wizard called Chris Sherburn. The club lasted around 25 years and in its heyday regular visitors were Christy Moore, Eddie and Finbar Furey, Vin Garbutt, Martin Carthy, The Watersons, Dick Gaughan, Nic Jones, even Ossian played there once. NB to the pedantic: Goole was in the West Riding of Yorkshire when the club started up! |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: ced2 Date: 13 Jan 10 - 10:53 AM re the Fleece at Addingham, Dave Hopton sadly died a number of years ago as did "Big" John Marshall of Ilkley who was a superb plectrum guitarist who turned up at the Fleece on a pretty regular basis. John Toothill who also played there, I believe, is now seriously ill with a cancer. Paul Keene who also played at the Fleece now and again is also sadly dead. But Dave Harrison keeps marching on! For those who have moved away from the area and remember the Sunday night crush, the room is no more, the whole layout of the pub has changed and that room forms one side of a more central bar. So gone is the sort of one way system involving an exit via the window to the front car park, back in through the front door to the bar and somehow getting back in the room with a pint of "Uncle Josh's best .... I believe there is now an open mic session on a Sunday evening and the Trad Jazz evening on Wednesdays is once again taking place.. Is it still Harry Long and his band? |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Folkiedave Date: 13 Jan 10 - 10:46 AM I was back in Sheffield last year and stuck my head into the Grapes, and it still looks exactly the same: I believe the tiles ~(and by implication the interior) have listed building status. The old folkies that used it tend to use the Gardeners, Fat Cat, Kelham ISland and Hillsborough. Fagan's of course. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,Mike Rogers Date: 13 Jan 10 - 10:24 AM My memories of this period are a mix of vivid and extremely muzzy. I cannot account for this. I first went to the Empress, Harrogate in the early 60s, an upstairs romm with candle lighting and largely orange box seating. It relocated to the Clarendon (I think) and then to the West Park Hotel. Great times, never bettered. During this time I also went to some clubs in Leeds/Beeston but the names of the venues escape me right now although the times were undoubtedly good. Later to the Fleece at Addingham where as mentioned earlier in the thread the Sunday night sessions centered on David Hopton and Dave Harrison. I remember John Heap (Heapy) being the landlord and when he quit Hairy Dave took over. Tuesday night was more of a country night which my mate Stuart and I used as a practice night which turned into a session if the room started filling up. I also remember the Watermill just outside Pateley Bridge. Although I remember discussions about what was 'ethnic' (the term of the day) I certainly don't recall the intolerance and animosity which seems to be such a part of the folk scene today. But I could be wrong.......... |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: SteveMansfield Date: 13 Jan 10 - 03:14 AM SHEFFIELD Polyfolk at the Grapes, Trippett Lane, on Tuesdays. I got to Sheffield in 1980 by which time the FC at The Grapes was on Fridays - saw loads of great acts there and did a few spots myself. I was back in Sheffield last year and stuck my head into the Grapes, and it still looks exactly the same: the same dark wooden bar with the green and yellow tiled floor, the same worn carpet leading up the stairs to the upstairs room where the club ran ... and probably the same drinkers and glasses from the look of it :) |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 12 Jan 10 - 08:37 PM Dave Hanson, I can't imagine what kind of ambience there would be for a session at the Fleece these days. The place is a far cry from what it was in the days of the Two Daves! |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Dave Higham Date: 12 Jan 10 - 07:57 PM The club that Malcolm Fox ran at The Three Cranes in Sheffield was called The Barley Mow. We used to have a membership card in which you could fill in the names of the guests booked for the coming weeks and I still have mine from 1969. The list reads as follows: The Couriers Jean Redpath Martin Whyndam-Reed Mick Waterson Dave Burland Christie Moore The Marston Rattlers Willie Scott Tony Capstick (a resident) Dave & Toni Arthur Packie Byrne The Humblebums (Billy Connoly & Gerry Rafferty) Nick Jones Ian Campbell Group Hedy West Steve Benbow The Broadside McColl & Seeger Diz Dizley Cyril Tawney The Strawbs Roy & Val Bailey The Yetties & Archie Fisher(!!) Christie Moore & John Doonan Allan Taylor Nigel Denver M. Carthy & D. Swarbrick Tony Rose. Then everyone went to Sidmouth and I didn't fill it in for the rest of the year. But we also saw The Dransfields The Johnstons (including Paul Brady) Etc., etc. We sometimes went up to the Highcliffe to see people like Ralph McTell Jake Thackray Mr Fox Mr Gladstones Bag Wizz Jones, etc. Those were the days. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Zany Mouse Date: 12 Jan 10 - 04:16 PM Skipton Folk Festival 1969 was my very first festival. Blessings Rhiannon |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Richard Hardaker Date: 12 Jan 10 - 04:04 PM I first stood up on my hind legs to perform in public at the Mitre in Knaresborough in 1969. Subsequently I was involved with John Burrell in founding the folk club at the Royal Oak in Knaresborough; at the same time we started Knaresborough Mummers who are still performing. The history of folks clubs in the Harrogate & Knaresborough district can be found here ; http://folkclubs.wikispaces.com/ Richard Hardaker |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Zany Mouse Date: 12 Jan 10 - 03:01 PM My first folk club was at Barnsley in the mid-60s. It was held at various pubs before finally settling at the Civic Centre. Was it called Room At The Top? It was run by Dave Burland, Tony Heald and the Elliots. It was also my first experience of singing on stage. Happy Days. Blessings Rhiannon |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,Bill Turnpenny Date: 12 Jan 10 - 11:17 AM Quite a few folk clubs in the Bradford area in this period. Sunday- Bradford Folk Club at the Commercial, James Street, then at the Valley House, then the Washington, then Bradford Hotel,(Manningham Lane).Paul Tattersall,(known to all as Dad), ran this. Tuesday-University Folk Club, (in the Staff Bar). Thursday-MacMillan College Folk Club, (in the College) Friday-Topic Folk Club,(then at the old Market Tavern) Saturday-informal folk session at the Bank House, Pudsey. I remember going to a Folk Club during the week at the Ferrands Arms in Bingley, I think Tony Capstick was involved with it, but it's a long time ago, and I can't remember which night. Happy Days! |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST Date: 12 Jan 10 - 09:03 AM Anyone ever attend the Drover's Arms Folk Club in Birmingham in the late 1960s ? It was Great. Me and Derek played there. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Dave Hanson Date: 12 Jan 10 - 08:49 AM At one time the Bradshaw Folk Clup was run by Jim Boyes and Frank Towerd, anyone know what happened to Frank ? I've heard disturbing rumours about him. Dave H |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: r.padgett Date: 12 Jan 10 - 07:14 AM Malcolm Fox was the name I could not remember and Jenny is still playing with Toeing in the Dark Tony Furniss was the guy in the wheel chair and the Three Cranes was an upstairs room, so two guys used to carry him up and down! Ray |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: breezy Date: 12 Jan 10 - 07:11 AM I guested at the Lowther, twice, once with Tony Martin on banjo 1967-8 Future club appearances include Bishop Stortford Thursday 22nd April 2010 Dont gig Jan to March cos of the weather, thats experience ! 1st April Maidenhead Folk Club Thurs 15th April the 'original' Orpington F C still running since the 60s too I recall visiting the club in Cleethorpes when Paul Simon appeared and I took along fellow students we were out from Leeds on teaching practice, and we knew all the words to his 'Songbook' L P so there |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Folkiedave Date: 12 Jan 10 - 07:03 AM I got married in 1972 and I seem to remember that Nellie's was still Nellie's at that point and women were not allowed in - except for a small room at the side. Malcolm Fox ran a club in Sheffield at the Three Cranes. Pete Civico also ran a club there. There was a club at the Cross Scythes (Totley) attended (mainly) by students from the college up there which eventually became part of Sheffield Hallam University and then was sold off. I have it in the back of my mind it was a domestic science college and thus most of the students that came were female. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: oggie Date: 12 Jan 10 - 03:56 AM The Haworth Arms On Beverley Road in Hull in the mid-seventies. The Round at the University and not forgetting that "Nellie's" started in Beverley in the mid seventies (1976?)as well. Steve |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Dave Hanson Date: 12 Jan 10 - 03:07 AM I believe there are still sessions at the Fleece Peter, Tuesday nights, I don't go because I play in a session in Queensbury on the same night. Dave H |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 11 Jan 10 - 06:47 PM Yes Dave H, I for one remember following the Grass Roots around its various venues in Halifax. I also remember packed Sunday-night sessions at the Fleece in Addingham in the late sixties and early seventies - so packed that beer, and sometimes clientele, were passed in through the windows. The singing was led by the landlord and a pal of his, known collectively as the Two Daves. Many moons ago I mentioned the Fleece on Mudcat, which months - or even years? - later prompted Leadfingers to send me a PM which he will not mind my pasting here: I hit Addingham in May or june 1977 , and finished up doing a Charity concert in the village hall in the August ! One dave died and the other (Pub Landlord) gave up the pub and became a Councillor ! Lost track in the late eighties But they were both good lads ! - Terry |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Rank Date: 11 Jan 10 - 01:56 PM SHEFFIELD Polyfolk at the Grapes, Trippett Lane, on Tuesdays. All the best artists (subjective)were be booked at affordable prices in those days. We convinced John Bartley to do monologues then as he couldn't sing anywhere near in tune. Broomhill Tavern on Wednesdays. Singers club run by Lynne & Graham Barber I think. They went of to sing on cruise ships. I'd love to know what happened to them. The Three Cranes on Queen Street on Friday. Run by Tony Furniss, sadly no longer with us. May have been run by Malcolm Fox before I went, also sadly no longer with us. Saw some really good people there for the first time. Saturday, can't remember. Was it Win White's Club on Greystones Road then? Went a few times, but it was a bit expensive. Had people like Steeleye Span & Mr Fox though. Sunday Jill & Gerry Bates nursery club at the Grapes. Excellent teaching/practicing club for traditional singers. Gerry still dances with City Morris. Other occasional things happened at the Nelson in town. Tony Irvine might have had something to do with that, also sadly no longer with us. The University Club on West Street, although they had mainly contemporary artists. The Lescar near Hunter's bar ran for a bit I think. OUT OF TOWN The Lord Conyers at Kiveton on Tuesdays. Now at the colliery cricket club. Celebrates it's 40th year this year. Used to seem like an adventure going on the bus in those days. The Old Horn at Bradfield. Might have been Friday. Another adventure. Climb up the hill from Low Bradfield and run down at the end for the bus if you couldn't get a lift. Black Bull at Ecclesfield. John and Sarah Ledbury ran that club. Bit of a trek and the opposite end of Sheffield. John still dances with the Lord Conyer's Morris. Derek and Dorothy's club at Barnsley. Saw Martin Carthy for the first time there. The club at Wortley. That has moved somewhere else now I think. Better sign off else I'll be stuck here trying to remember. But we had some rare old times, didn't we? In those day's floor singers were let in for nothing and maybe were even bought a pint. That sounds like a good idea. John Rankin |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Les in Chorlton Date: 11 Jan 10 - 01:00 PM The Grove, Leeds, the Adelpi Leeds Bridge, Leeds, that one in Pudsey run by two brothers who din't sing much, The Whip in Leeds with Geoff Ingham and others L in C |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: BillE Date: 11 Jan 10 - 12:13 PM In York, the Lowther Hotel Folk Club ran in the 60's, becoming the York Folk Centre in the early 70's - never really settling after leaving the Lowther, but moving through a succession of pubs before fizzling out. We ran successful York Folk Festivals at the end of the 60's. Fantastic guest lists at the Lowther included: Watersons Fred Jordan Packie Byrne High Level Ranters Finbar & Eddie Furey Robin & Barry Dransfield Derek & Dorothy Elliot Dave Burland Strawbs Al Stewart John Martyn? Bob & Hazel Spray?? Jon Rennard Jacqui & Bridie Bernard Wrigley (Dave & Bernard days) To name but a few.. We were so well supported by other local clubs, especially Selby (Mike Soar & friends). Great resident singers, too: Rusty Homer, Jeff Dalby the blacksmith, Geordie Coulson, Stan Norman & Jed Morris, Jim Morris, Chris Brownbridge, The Acorns (Sylvia, Pat Collings, Chris Hollingsworth & Bill), Judy Dinsdale, Graham Metcalfe, Ollie Wilson, Steve Campbell, John Lundie and many more including me. Later Noel Dobson & Richard, too. Now, of course it's the Black Swan Folk Club in York, but just as good - if not a little better (but I'm prejudiced) - is the Wednesday singaround at the Thompsons Arms, Flaxton, which is often likened to the best clubs of the 60's & 70's. Why rely on nostalgia? Bill Evers |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Dave Hanson Date: 11 Jan 10 - 09:48 AM The Topic Bradford, when it was at the Sun, Sunbridge Road then The Star, Westgate. The Grass Roots, Halifax at variously, The Royal Oak, The Plummet Line, The Crown and the Upper George. Dave H |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: squeezeboxhp Date: 11 Jan 10 - 08:27 AM Singing Jenny Wood St Hudersfiels 3 nuns cooper bridge Hudderfield Plummet line Halifax Bradshaw Halifax Anchor Brighouse RAFA Club Westgate Huddersfield RAOB Club Leeds Woolpack Wakefield to name but a few |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: G-Force Date: 11 Jan 10 - 06:45 AM Sheffield University folk club 1966, in one of the pubs down West Street (can't remember which, possibly the Beehive?). Saw Tony Rose, Tony Capstick, Anne Briggs etc. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Sugwash Date: 11 Jan 10 - 06:41 AM The first one I went to was upstairs in the George Hotel in Cleckheaton back in the very early seventies. The first two guests I saw were Hedgehog Pie and Mike Harding. There were certainly many clubs about in those days. The Anchor at Brighouse, The Bradshaw Tavern near Denholm stick in my memory. There was even one in The Castle Hotel on Castle Hill, Huddersfield. My good mate Bruce Baillie used to run one in the Old Packhorse, Cleckheaton. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,padgett on lap top Date: 11 Jan 10 - 06:31 AM Who the devil started this one ~ OMG! I do remember (far too much) Civic Centenary Rooms, Barnsley ~ Dave Burland, Tony Heald, Jim POtter The Fox, Shafton Two Gates (nr Cudworth) Ken HUdson, Elizabeth Padgett, Dave Oldroyd King George, Barnsley ~ Derek and Dorothy Elliot, Cherry Tree, Hoylandswaine ~ Sid Chamber, Dennis Fallowfield, Will Noble Three Cranes, Sheffield ~ John and Sarah Ledbury, John Bartley, chap who ran it name escapes played Sax and had alsorts of great names on a miriad of Sheffield folkies, Pete and Annie Smith, Tony Irvine, Pat Walker around the Irish pubs and Red Deer Holmfirth at the Nook, Huddersfield at The Builders ~ Brian and Geoff, Ray |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Mary Humphreys Date: 11 Jan 10 - 06:15 AM The Blue Bell on Sunday nights in Hull - I remember it from about 1970 - 1973. Ian Manuel used to sing there, but mainly in the bar downstairs. Also a club in ( I think it was ) South Cave run by John O'Hagan who now sings with Cockersdale. |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Folkiedave Date: 11 Jan 10 - 05:58 AM I was ofen out at clubs five nights a week (nece the no-so-good A level results). Can't use that as an excuse I got poor A levels too and never went to a folk club! :-) |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: theleveller Date: 11 Jan 10 - 04:35 AM "Anybody remember the Three Ravens at the Buck Inn in Beverley, 1965ish?" Yes, I used to go there from time to time. My 'main' folk club started off in Bridlington Market Place, then moved to the Black Lion in the old town - which I ended up running in 1966-7. I also used to go quite frequently to the Waterson's club at the Blue Bell in Hull and sometimes to one upstairs at the King's Arms in York - and also the Dransfield's club in Harrogate. In fact, while still at school, I was ofen out at clubs five nights a week (nece the no-so-good A level results). |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Dave Hanson Date: 11 Jan 10 - 04:00 AM Anyone remember the Grass Roots Folk Club in Halifax ? Dave H |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: breezy Date: 11 Jan 10 - 03:44 AM Club Memphis, The Grove , the Yorkshire Folk Centre and the clubs Jon Renard organised Got locked out of my College Hall of residence more than once in my first year ! |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Folkiedave Date: 10 Jan 10 - 06:42 PM Was John Ross the guy who did all the Robin Hood Ballads? |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: Steve Gardham Date: 10 Jan 10 - 04:07 PM Anybody remember the Three Ravens at the Buck Inn in Beverley, 1965ish? Whatever happened to John Ross? Laurie Russell alias Alan Bleasdale (Not the Liverpool one). |
Subject: RE: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST Date: 10 Jan 10 - 03:05 PM Anyone remember The Junction Denshaw in mid sixties I can but not much |
Subject: Yorkshire folk clubs 60's and 70's From: GUEST,Charlie Date: 10 Jan 10 - 03:00 PM Come on lets 'ave it!! Which ones did you go to ,memories stories etc |
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