BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 05:54 PM

Beck himself is a "disturbed individual" - not to say a psychotic one.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 05:53 PM

clicky...

Beck's Violent Rhetoric

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 05:45 PM

There have been a number of such incidents Bobert - California, Pittsburgh, etc.

Read up on them here:
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149129/how_glenn_beck's_twisted_worldview_goads_disturbed_people_into_acts_of_violence

in a piece written well *before* the Giffords attack.

Kinda prescient, yes?

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:50 PM

I don't have the details and maybe someone else remembers the story or has a link to it but seems to me that about a year ago a number of Beckites got into a shooting incident with police on the way tyo0 shoot some leftie for somethin'...

Maybe someone remembers that incident and can find a link...

That's the kinda of thing that a sane society would take a look at real closely and go, "We really don't need these people to being using our publicly owned airwaves to incite violence...

Anyone have the details on that incident???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:47 PM

You CAN'T shoot 'em, even if it made sense...which it doesn't. That attitude they espouse is only fueled by violence against 'em, and gives 'em an excuse to retaliate...YOU know that, Bruce. And you KNOW which side has more guns squirreled away, just waiting for a chance to 'save the world from Fascism'.

   We can prove them wrong and we can VOTE them out...and we can educate, so stupidity will have less breeding grounds. If we fail totally at all that, I'm not sure the world will be worth living in anyway....

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:25 PM

Tell that to the Third Reich. Pol Pot. Idi Amin.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:25 PM

but Giffords is still alive, so that doesn't leave assassination looking like an effective solution.

Only because Loghner was incompetent. I'm sure the TeaBagger-Beck Axis has someone more skilled in the wings waiting for an opportunity.

Stay tuned....

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: saulgoldie
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:23 PM

Heeey, no "shooting" here! THEY do ENOUGH of that kind of talk. Remember that "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth leaves the whole world blind and toothless." If "we" are going to call them out, we have to be ULTRApure.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:22 PM

Oh goody! Let's do everything we hate that other people do, and there won't be any difference between us and them.

I think he'll keep going so long as he's alive AND has a forum. We can't shoot everybody we don't like. Sometimes, we miss. Loughner managed to kill a bunch of people, but Giffords is still alive, so that doesn't leave assassination looking like an effective solution. As for the "forum" bit, there is always going to be a significant number of stupid people in the world. Can't shoot all of them, either. We can keep on trying to promote truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 04:04 PM

Well, John, I have come to agree with the right-wing. They advocate violence. The Becks, Robertsons, Coulters and Palins are all in favour of it. Who am I to disagree?

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 03:49 PM

Not half as proud as Beck does himself, John.

Or do you maintain that Beck does not trade almost exclusively in hatred and bullshit that can- and has- been proven to be bullshit?

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 03:45 PM

Nice post, 999...you do yourself proud.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 03:44 PM

Until such time as he is shot, he will continue to spew hatred and bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 02:21 PM

Well, ya know, might be different if the FCC hadn't rescinded the "Fairness Docterine" at the behest of the right-wingers.

Them chickens has come home to roost....

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: saulgoldie
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 01:51 PM

From Mark Twain: "A lie will go around the world before the truth has its boots on."

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 01:29 PM

"I say let Glenn Beck speak."

Commendable basic attitude, but when someone can be proven to be disseminating false information and distorting issues, his 'right' to do so over public airwaves needs to be discussed.

Beck may 'have' any stupid opinion he wishes...just like you & I... but when he simply states demonstrable falsities with no oversight, he is playing fast & loose with the manipulation of public opinion.

...and no, it is NOT the same with 'both sides'. Various conservative factions and individuals are simply lying about basic information and claiming it is just 'opinion, protected by free speech'. This goes FAR beyond plain 'spin', which even liberals will resort to.

The sort of loaded rhetoric employed by Beck, Limbaugh, Bachmann, (and several members of congress) have no place in decent discourse....and they get away with it because it takes 10 times as much effort to counter and disprove false assertions than it does to keep them flowing.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: saulgoldie
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 01:25 PM

Actually, while his ratings may be high, he has cost Fox MANY sponsors. He is being subsidized by Murdock.

As for letting words offend you, perhaps if you asked a Holocaust survivor how they feel about it you might find it enlightening. Course, they are likely not his audience.

Free speech? The airwaves and cable broadcast bandwidth are naturally finite, and not every voice has "fair" access. Should have, but in reality, don't.

Saul

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 01:07 PM

He's more of a joke,

He's no bloody joke- he's a dangerous asshole.

Those that actually believe what he says, however, are considerably MORE dangerous.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 12:12 PM

Whether some group of Rabbis want Beck to be 86ed is of no consequence to me. I'm sure there is another group of Rabbis out there that find Beck fine and dandy.

Clergy are like the Supreme Court. Their pronouncements are their specific opinions based on their own world view. And these pronouncements change as the personnel change.

Long ago, I decided that no religion, no political party, no group, nor any pundit speaks for me. I reserve the right to agree or disagree, accept or reject their ideas.

I say let Glenn Beck speak. You don't like his ideas or his interpretation from the facts...challenge them with better ideas. That goes for any speaker from Ann Coulter to the recently fired Keith Olbermann, from Sarah Palin to Rep. Steven Cohen.

Someone once said (or should have), "The antidote to free speech is more free speech." Amen!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 11:34 AM

The same people listen to Beck as read "National Enquirer" or "The Weekly World News".

"Against stupidity the very gods Themselves contend in vain."
- Friedrich von Schiller

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 11:19 AM

First off, I think that being sensitive to words makes one vulnerable, and announcing it is worse. Especially if those wielding such words look like the all-grown-up version of your neighborhood bully, and that's how I've always thought of Beck. The taunting big mouth, all swagger and little substance.

He likely earns lots of money for Fox because of the spectacle. Sure, some people are dim enough, or wannabe bullies themselves, but I'd guess a significant number of those who watch him just wonder what stupid stuff is gonna come out of his mouth next. He's more of a joke, like a cable network version of a local access whacko, but viewers is viewers, and no one expects truth from Fox.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 11:11 AM

Unfortunately, Greg and Wesley, you're right.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 10:54 AM

Fox will do nothing to Glenn Beck. His ratings are too high and he makes too much money for the network. Why would they try to tamper with his success?

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: josepp
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 10:51 AM

Beck and that Cramer guy both irk me. They talk about gold and currency like they're some kind of supernatural geniuses. I want to meet one person outside their sponsors and backers who have made it rich off either of these two idiots.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Greg F.
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 10:41 AM

Beck consistently throws around all sorts of terms he obviously doesn't understand or know the meaning of. Of course, he's an ignorant school dropout, so what would one expect?

As for yanking him off the air it wouldn't make any difference; the Republican River Of Bullshit would quickly and easily find another gobshite to take his place.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Maryrrf
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 10:32 AM

I sure wish somebody would bust him. He spouts a toxic stew of lies, half truths, rants and raves, mean spirited diatribes and incendiary rhetoric. I wish he'd push the envelope too far (he already has, in my opinion) and be yanked off the air.

Subject: RE: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: bobad
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 10:12 AM

Article here: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/rabbis-protest-glenn-beck-holocaust/

Subject: BS: Rabbis Push FOX to Bust Beck...
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jan 11 - 09:52 AM

If I have the story correct a number of rabbis have taken out a full page ad in Rupert Murdock's Wall Street Journal today asking that FOX unNews tell Glen Beck to quit throwing around the term "Nazi" as an adjective for anyone who disagrees with him...

I have not seen the ad but my felling is that it's long overdue... His casual usage of the term Nazi as well as Holocaust in such a manner is terribly disrespectful to the 8 million Jews who were killed as well as to those who found themselves trapped on the wrong side of history...

Maybe someone will be able to find the ad and make a blue clicky to it???

B~