BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:31 PM

From this Washington Post article

"Luc Portelance, assistant director of operations for CSIS, said the arrested men "are Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds. For various reasons, they appear to become adherents of virulent ideology inspired by al-Qaeda." But McDonell later suggested investigators had found no direct connection with al-Qaeda."

So GUEST (and I checked that), al Qaeda is an Islamic extremist group. I discovered the supposed link because I read the articles C. Ham linked to.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:19 PM

C. Ham,

Don't waste your time arguing with Carol C. If you listen to her, all the terrorism in the world is the fault of Israel and America.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:05 PM

Yes. Maybe they are born-again Christians.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: C. Ham
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 02:03 PM

What do you consider to be particularly "Islamic" about the name - "Saad Khalid", C-Ham?

Well, CarolC, perhaps you're right, and the name is not particularly Islamic. Both "Saad" and "Khalid" are Arabic names and I'm well aware that not all Arabs are Islamic. Then again, I have a friend whose name is "Khalid," who is a Moslem, but is not of Arabic origin. He was born in Pakistan.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:55 PM

"The investigation, which McDonell said involved more than 400 persons, also included Canada's intelligence agency, the Canada Security and Intelligence Agency.

Luc Portelance, assistant director of operations for CSIS, said the arrested men "are Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds. For various reasons, they appear to become adherents of virulent ideology inspired by al-Qaeda." But McDonell later suggested investigators had found no direct connection with al-Qaeda."

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:49 PM

TARGET: CANADA

1998 "You cannot stop us." A World Islamic Front letter is sent to police advising that a biological and chemical weapons attack would be launched in the Montreal subway system. A group of Algerians is arrested and deported.

1999 "In the summer of 1999, Samir Ait Mohamed and Ahmed Ressam discussed placing explosives in the Outremont suburb of Montreal because it was a predominantly Jewish neighborhood," the FBI says.

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2001 "Special file for our brother Abu Bakr al-Albani on the nature of his mission. First, the mission. Gather information on ... the possibility of obtaining explosive devices inside Canada." -- August 2001 e-mail found on al-Qaeda computer in Kabul.

2001 "In the lead-up and immediate aftermath to 9/11... there was a conspiracy of eight individuals who had designs to execute an act of serious violence in the Toronto area," Jack Hooper, CSIS Deputy Director of Operations, states.

2002 "As you kill, you will be killed." -- Osama bin Laden in an audiotaped speech that threatened Canada.

2004 "Human Targets: We must target and kill the Jews and the Christians.... The grades of importance are as follows: Americans, British, Spaniards, Australians, Canadians, Italians," instructs Al Battar, an al-Qaeda training manual.

2005 "And now you will get news of what hurts you." A jihadists video production posted on the Internet repeats bin Laden's 2002 threat to Canada.

2006 "We have a bifurcated threat at this point -- the threat that comes to Canada from the outside as well as a homegrown threat, and the homegrown variants look to Canada to execute their targeting," Mr. Hooper warns.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: CarolC
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:46 PM

What do you consider to be particularly "Islamic" about the name - "Saad Khalid", C-Ham?

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:36 PM

C Ham, my apology for calling you 'GUEST'. Sometimes it's hard for me to keep up, but I'll make sure I pay better attention in future.

MSNBC has reported that most of the suspects are Canadian citizens. I'm sure more information will come out as this progresses, but whatever their religion, I'm very glad they were caught before they killed anyone. Apparently the investigation, but Canadian and US authorities, has be going since last fall.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:31 PM

Jeri, please read as is presented. And where did you see "Islamic Extremists" indicated?

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: C. Ham
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 01:12 PM

There isn't any mention of race or religion in the articles GUEST linked to either. I'd guess the 'Islamic' bit was something he read into it, although they were clearly inspired by other terrorists, likely Islamic Extremists.

Geri,

My Mudcat name is not GUEST, it is C. Ham. Although I initially posted here as a guest, I have been posting as a Mudcat member, in both music and BS threads, for about two months.

I have referred to them as "Islamic terrorists" because that is how they have been describded on both of the Canadian TV news networks (CBC Newsworld and CTV Newsnet) by representatives of the RCMP and Ontario police.

Furthermore, several of the articles mention that the Ontario terrorists were "inspired by al-Qaeda." And if you check the link with the list of the terrorists, they all have Islamic names.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 12:58 PM

There isn't any mention of race or religion in the articles GUEST linked to either. I'd guess the 'Islamic' bit was something he read into it, although they were clearly inspired by other terrorists, likely Islamic extremists.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: bobad
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 12:56 PM

Three tonnes of ammonium nitrate could have done serious damage in downtown Toronto considering that one ton was used against the Murragh building in Oklahoma.

Subject: RE: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: pdq
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 12:42 PM

How odd. I just heard this story on my local radio station, an ABC affiliate. There was absolutely no mention of race, religion or country of origin of the suspects. You don't suppose the regular network news in the US is a bit 'doctored' do you?

Subject: BS: Islamic terrorists arrested in Ontario
From: C. Ham
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 12:36 PM

Big story from Ontario today on the arrest of a ring of 17 Islamic terrorists who were planning major bomb attacks there.

BBC story

MSNBC story

Bloomberg story

article with list of terrorist suspects


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