Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:54 PM

In England, 'Sally, Sallies,' became a nickname for the Army and the members (1915, OED). A S. V. hostel also was known as a 'Sally.'

Surprisingly, the first known use in print of 'Sally Ann' was American, 1927, in "American Speech," vol. 2 (OED).

I am sure that earlier use will be found in England and Canada, and that it was used along with 'Sally.' I think I first heard 'Sally Ann' in the 1930's, from my father, who was in the army (American).
I tend to agree with the article quoted by Peace- that the term dates to WWI. Its use is largely UK and Commonwealth, but it has been used to some extent in the States as well.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:45 AM

I've lived in Minnesota 40+ years and I've never heard the Salvation Army called "Sally Ann". I've never eaten their soup, but I have bought stuff in their thrift shops.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:22 AM

"The First World War

During the First World War (1914-18), the Canadian Salvation Army's overseas activities were part of the much larger effort organized by British Salvationists. The latter established over 200 recreational huts (often no more than tents), 40 rest homes, and 96 hostels, all staffed by more than 1200 volunteers. The Canadian Salvation Army sent five military chaplains to the front and helped operate well-equipped huts, canteens, rest facilities, and hostels in Britain, France and Belgium. There, war-weary troops could bathe, refresh their clothing, eat decent food, and prepare themselves physically, mentally, and spiritually for the always difficult return to the trenches. Closer to the front, more Salvation Army officers provided refreshments and amenities, often under dangerous conditions. As Canadian soldier Will Bird wrote in his classic war memoir, Ghosts Have Warm Hands: "Every front-line soldier of World War I knew that his true friend was the man in the Salvation Army canteen." The troops coined the affectionate nickname 'Sally Ann' to describe the Salvation Army while the familiar Red Shield logo – the emblem of its war efforts – also dates from this period."

from http://www.civilization.ca/cwm/disp/dis012_e.html

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:12 AM

I heard that term in the 1960s used in Montreal to refer to the Salvation Army.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:07 AM

I would have sworn the term "Sally Ann" was used in the US in the 1960's to refer to the Salvation Army. Of course, there's the traditional song of that name, but that certainly has nothing to do with the Salvation Army. The earliest use of the term I could find was from Peter Berryman's Squalor, published in 1980. Peter and I both grew up in Wisconsin, so maybe the term was used there and not elsewhere.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Apr 07 - 11:31 PM

Sally Ann is what the Salvation Army is called in the UK and Canada. The term is now being heard in the U. S.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 06 Apr 07 - 09:24 PM

What's a Sally Ann?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: InOBU
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 05:14 PM

Oh there is a line about the seats are hard in the old church yard, but the stones make a good wind break... I am surprised I am not getting a responce on this yet...
cheers
lor

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 02:37 PM

Sally Ann has affected many people; why so few songs about this interaction?

Hope you can find and post the song you are looking for.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: InOBU
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 01:45 PM

Hmmm... maybe it is a Nick Jones song... I can almost remember it...

Subject: Lyr Req: Soup from a Sally Ann... Begging song
From: InOBU
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:41 PM

Hi Lads and lassies...
Anyone know a song, about sleeping on grave stones, and waiting for ... oh someone to get out of work, and getting "soup from a Sally Ann, end of the verse ryhmes with... whenever I can...

Thanks ahead of time
lorcan