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BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie

bankley 24 Dec 07 - 09:01 AM
Sandy Mc Lean 23 Dec 07 - 09:10 PM
bankley 23 Dec 07 - 03:22 PM
bankley 23 Dec 07 - 01:40 PM
Bee 23 Dec 07 - 01:12 PM
bankley 23 Dec 07 - 08:57 AM
Mooh 23 Dec 07 - 06:20 AM
Sandy Mc Lean 22 Dec 07 - 11:39 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: bankley
Date: 24 Dec 07 - 09:01 AM

Amen to that, Sandy. The title was likely taken from the quote, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian" from the latter 1800's when U.S. Gen. Miles, was rounding up and/or killing 'hostiles'. Interesting that Natives in the 13 Colonies, were probably the first casualties of the War on Terror. The Declaration of Independence,(July 04/1776) is basically a list of grievances concerning King George..... one being
"He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions."

.....That pretty well set the tone for what followed.

Meanwhile, while we're on such a broad and sad subject, I'm still waiting for the Cdn. Govt. to pardon Metis leader Louis Riel and, further, finally recognize him as one of the Fathers of Confederation. (Manitoba). He was elected MP but could not take his seat in Ottawa, because there was a death bounty on his head, placed there by the Orange Lodge, which ran the show in those parts. John A. MacDonald was an Orangeman. Louis was later executed for treason for his part in the Northwest Rebellion, which was really a war of resistance.


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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 23 Dec 07 - 09:10 PM

The title of the movie and the book on which it was based, "One Dead Indian", is rather stark and may not seem very politically correct, but I think that the author, Peter Edwards, could not have chosen better. He tells the story in a stark no nonsense, no excuse, style and the title is only the hammer to start with. Attention is drawn to the book and to the story that it tells about Dudley George's "public murder" , and that would seem how he would want it to be. I appreciate one of the bots trying to put the title in softer context by adding "CTV movie", but this is not just a movie or a book, but a story that would ask each of us to look into our souls. Sometimes in order to do that we must be hit with the hammer. It is easy enough for us to blame the OPP, a red-necked premier and an incompetent government but the shame is that they represented "The People". Sadly "The People" can most easily be found by looking in a mirror.
                      Sandy


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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: bankley
Date: 23 Dec 07 - 03:22 PM

correction... RCAP "Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples" released in the mid-90's.


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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: bankley
Date: 23 Dec 07 - 01:40 PM

Well, I wouldn't count on Harper much. He threw out the Kelowna Accord. Canada must start to honour treaties and try to settle the many land claim issues. Get rid of the 'Indian Act', Maybe take some of the recommendations proposed by the $20,000,000 Royal Commission on Aboriginal Affairs more seriously. (A lot of the country, esp. BC, has been built and developed on unceded native land)... This is why Oka and Gustafsen Lake were important as a struggle between The Rule of Law and The Rule of Force.... Our Home on Native land...
it's always been about resources and control. That's what colonial powers do.


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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: Bee
Date: 23 Dec 07 - 01:12 PM

It was a disgrace and a needless tragedy. I hear they are planning a monument to Mr. George on the land.

Canada has not done well by its First Nations people, despite the frequent whining one hears about the 'special privileges' they receive. I hope we do better in the future.

Meanwhile, I cheer whenever I see another successful business on a Nova Scotia reserve. I remember when the first large gas station/convenience store went up on a reserve in Cape Breton, an operation still thriving.


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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: bankley
Date: 23 Dec 07 - 08:57 AM

meanwhile in Ontario, we still have the Haldiman land grab dispute in Six Nations, plus the projected opening of a uranium mine near Sharbot Lake (Algonquin Territory)... and the Debeers involvement in diamond exploration in the James Bay area .( near Kesetchewan and the contaminated water). Also the Tyendinega quarry... If you want to see a really good documentary try "Above the Law'.... behind the scenes and trial of the Gustafsen Lake stand-off. (BC/'95). "Smear campaigns are our specialty"- RCMP. Remember Canada didn't sign the recent UN 'Declaration of Indigenous Rights" Neither did the US, and now the Lakota have decided to secede from the Union. It'll get interesting.


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Subject: RE: BS: One Dead Indian - CTV movie
From: Mooh
Date: 23 Dec 07 - 06:20 AM

Sandy, thanks for the link and reminder.

The return of Ipperwash is almost too little too late. That it was taken in the first place shows that the government of the day had no regard for the rightful owners. That it took so long to return shows that every subsequent government had no regard for the owners. Its return now may be more politics than will or belief, though I live in hope. There are some other disputes left unsettled (Caledonia, Cape Croker, etc) that the government could resolve, but I fear Ipperwash will become but a token gesture in the big picture of land disputes. Nonetheless, it IS a sign of hope for things to come.

Dudley George did not die in vain.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: BS: One Dead Indian
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 11:39 PM

CTV aired a re-run of it's movie "One Dead Indian" tonight. I thought that it was an excellent production. The true story of Ipperwash is about an Indian killed by the Ontario Provincial Police and their attempt to cover up their disgraceful response to a non-violent protest. Lots of disgrace for the Ontario government as well. It was announced a couple of days ago that the Indians were to get there land returned, so a degree of justice seems to have finally happened.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20060103/onedeadindian_movie_060103?hub=TorontoHome


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