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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: the lemonade lady Date: 18 Jun 08 - 07:56 AM I recon this is a good idea, What do you think? Can this work ? See what you think and pass it on if you agree with it We are hitting 131.9 a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying 2.00 a ltr. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT,whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in! Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves.. Here's the idea: For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one),ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... . THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! Acting together we can make a difference . If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: rock chick Date: 13 Jun 08 - 08:56 PM £1.29.9 a litre for diesel is the cheapest now where I am, it now costs me over £53 to fill up and I do this normally twice a month.... crazy prices or what!! can I afford over £100 a month together with all the other cost to run a car, no not really, can I do without the car, possibly, but it would cost a lot using public transport, trains etc, and I could not cart the heavy shopping home...and the amount of extra time I would waste waiting for trains etc would mean I would not be so productive. Moaning or what....yes very much so. rc |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Rasener Date: 13 Jun 08 - 02:03 PM On the news, they said that Esso supply all the supermarkets, so if nobody can deliver to Esso places, the same will apply to Tesco etc. Should we be worried? Well I hope Allan Taylor has filled up so that he gets to Faldingworth tomorrow, otherwise I will have a big big problem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: bankley Date: 13 Jun 08 - 01:12 PM .14 cents a litre in Venezuela.... but a long drive to get there.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Eric the Viking Date: 12 Jun 08 - 06:35 PM Diesel 138.5p/litre here on Orkney. (But no traffic jams) |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: the lemonade lady Date: 12 Jun 08 - 06:18 PM At 55 mph my car averages 48.9mpg But then the people with more money over take me honking as tho I am an oap out for a day trip on a sunday! sal |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Melissa Date: 12 Jun 08 - 05:48 PM A couple days after the earlier thread on this idea presumably going in effect, I DID notice trucks on the highway going slow--drove about 40 miles one day and the trucks seemed to be keeping at about 55. I was delighted. I only noticed it happening one day though and it could have been a fluke--only saw about 20 or so trucks and one day wasn't enough to build up good roadside festivals or anything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: kendall Date: 12 Jun 08 - 05:36 PM Jacqui and I just made a long trip, 500 miles+, and we kept our speed under 70 mph. Even with the A/C running we still got 34 mpg in our 2001 Hyundai Sonata. (Automatic transmission) |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Donuel Date: 12 Jun 08 - 12:23 PM I have noticed that people are actually driving faster now. Morgan Stanley Bank and Goldman Sachs are the key investment banks that are speculating on extremely high fuel commodity prices in the futires market. This in turn causes the price to go up. Even the Saudis say that the prices of gas are absurd and crazy. THe US traders want it crazy since short term windfall profits are too wonderful to pass up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Amos Date: 11 Jun 08 - 10:52 PM Try $4.50--and still almost 50% less than most of Europe (around $8.25/us gal). A |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Rapparee Date: 11 Jun 08 - 10:45 PM We paid USD 140.00 (in Euros, of course) to fill up the car with diesel in Ireland. The price was about E1.86/liter (and up). Gasoline is running over $4.00/US gallon here now, and we're one of the cheaper places in the US. I don't think it's going to get any cheaper anywhere in the world anytime soon. Do a search, though, on the Brakken Field. I'm too tired to do it for you all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: skarpi Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:43 PM well ,I have hot water to heat up my house , we make Metangas on Cars , here we also have ethanol, and hydrogen and electrical , disel and casoline cars here in Iceland , hybryd cars alot of them and ofcourse the bike . No train though . so I think I am goin to get me a metangas car , the ltr is 86 ISL KR but the diesel is 186 ISL KR ATB Skarpi |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Phot Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:42 PM If I drive any slower, I'll be going backwards!! Besides, they can go fast............ I can go anywhere! Wassail!! Chris |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Def Shepard Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM Maybe they should bring back the guinea for payment of petrol, that's a form of highway robbery isn't it? :-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:36 PM From my reading lately, fuel prices are just beginning to reach levels that would make alternatives feasible- somewhere arount $140-150 per barrel. And figure in about ten years for the developments to reach the market in a major way. Heating costs this coming winter- either move to the tropics or freeze. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Def Shepard Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:27 PM Guineas (used for such delicate matters as horsetrading, fines, paying ones tailor , professional fees, or bribing justices) They were also used as the reward for apprehending such folk as highwayman, I believe. I'm old enough to have a vague remembrance of the guinea |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Sooz Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM Decimalisation was in February 1971. Guineas are still used for buying and selling horses and cattle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: gnomad Date: 11 Jun 08 - 05:20 PM Yes again. Before we changed we had 12 pence (symbol d, apparently from denarii) to the shilling, and twenty shillings (symbol s) to the pound (symbol £) so 240 pence to the pound. About 1970 (too lazy to check) we "went decimal" and dumped what was sometimes called Lsd. The pound was unchanged, but its fractions became 100 "New Pence", after a while the "New" bit got dropped because they weren't, although the New Forest is still new hundreds of years after it was designated. In short, one penny (now) = 2.4 old pennies, and weighs about one fifth as much. Guineas (used for such delicate matters as horsetrading, fines, paying ones tailor , professional fees, or bribing justices) were 21 shillings, they were a sneaky way to make a price seem less: nine and a half gns sounded rather less than ten pounds, but at £9/19/6d it amounted to just 6d less (0.25%). |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: PoppaGator Date: 11 Jun 08 - 04:25 PM Once upon a time, didn't pounds and pence have a non-decimal (and much more confusing) relationship? Kat's right in that the new high prices should provide some kind of contribution to constructive efforts to use energy in a saner manner, and the governments and their bosses the oil companies are not doing so directly. However, the sudden price increase is indirectly contributing to real progress by motivating individuals to conserve, buy more efficient cars and appliances, etc. Won't change things overnight, of course... |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: gnomad Date: 11 Jun 08 - 04:06 PM Yes, Peace, not a stupid question, 100 pence = 1 pound sterling. £1.179/litre x 3.785411784 litres/us gal = £4.463/us gal At US$1.9626/£ that comes to US$8.75/gal as best I reckon. Diesel costs even more, and that is what affects prices in the shops. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: katlaughing Date: 11 Jun 08 - 12:58 PM It wouldn't bother me to pay so much, as we are doing here, also, if I knew some of the money was going to save the planet, i.e. alternative fuels/cars/etc. developed more to within most folks' price range, etc. As it is, I don't think we Americans have much to complain about...we haven't been paying our fair share in forever, esp. considering we use the most of the resources, yet countries in Africa and elsewhere are suffering more because of the effects of global warming brought on by our excesses. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Peace Date: 11 Jun 08 - 11:53 AM Stupid question. Are there 100 pence in a pound? |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Rasener Date: 11 Jun 08 - 11:49 AM 117.9 pence a litre today at the pump. My tank was empty so had to fill up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Rasener Date: 11 Jun 08 - 09:04 AM :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: the lemonade lady Date: 11 Jun 08 - 09:01 AM Lol, yes I ought to be be, but we all need fuel to get around. It's not the end of the world if I don't sell lemonade! If my customers can't afford the fuel to get to the venues, there's no point in lemonade! Sal |
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Subject: RE: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: Rasener Date: 11 Jun 08 - 08:53 AM Sal, I would have thought you would have been more concerned about the shortage of lemons and the high cost of them now. |
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Subject: BS: FILL UP - SLOW DOWN From: the lemonade lady Date: 11 Jun 08 - 08:43 AM FILL UP - SLOW DOWN. Talks have begun to try to avert a four-day strike involving tanker drivers who deliver fuel for Shell. Members of the Unite union representing more than 600 drivers are meeting their employers to try to find a resolution to the pay dispute. If their walkout goes ahead on Friday morning it will affect one in 10 filling stations across the UK. Yeah I know, some wise guy'll tell me there's a thread somewhere about this, but i can't find it. I think we should block the motorways and roads and have an enormous music festival. The price of fuel is outrageous, but somehow we just sit back and allow it to happen. Rise up and fight! Anyone with me? FILL UP - SLOW DOWN. Sal |