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BS: BS/music balance

Goose Gander 28 Oct 09 - 01:32 PM
Ebbie 28 Oct 09 - 01:19 PM
Joe Offer 27 Oct 09 - 02:38 PM
Stringsinger 27 Oct 09 - 02:31 PM
Mrrzy 27 Oct 09 - 02:06 PM
gnu 26 Oct 09 - 03:27 PM
VirginiaTam 26 Oct 09 - 03:24 PM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 26 Oct 09 - 03:19 PM
Rog Peek 26 Oct 09 - 03:13 PM
Rasener 26 Oct 09 - 01:32 PM
McGrath of Harlow 26 Oct 09 - 01:11 PM
Rasener 26 Oct 09 - 12:53 PM
Ed T 26 Oct 09 - 11:27 AM
Georgiansilver 26 Oct 09 - 10:48 AM
theleveller 26 Oct 09 - 09:45 AM
Mrrzy 26 Oct 09 - 09:34 AM
Spleen Cringe 26 Oct 09 - 06:23 AM
Rog Peek 26 Oct 09 - 05:47 AM
Jos 26 Oct 09 - 05:04 AM
Crow Sister (off with the fairies) 26 Oct 09 - 04:57 AM
Rasener 26 Oct 09 - 04:56 AM
Richard Bridge 26 Oct 09 - 04:43 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Goose Gander
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 01:32 PM

The problem I think is that many threads 'above the line' are really BS threads with music as a point of departure.

Mudcat used to have lots of interesting discussions of songs, tunes, etc. Not so much of that these days. And I'm as much to blame as anyone else for this, but it's still a problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Oct 09 - 01:19 PM

Remember the good old days before the separation? The recurring argument then was that the non-music threads were overwhelming the 'good' threads. People assiduously counted the pros and cons. Nowadays it takes only a glance.

On the other hand I have never understood someone complaining at the lack of a category- if we want more = or fewer - threads of a certain kind, we can start one ourselves.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 02:38 PM

Mrrzy sez:
    Hmmm - shouldn't this not be BS?
Would you care to diagram that sentence for the class, Mrr?

love,
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Stringsinger
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 02:31 PM

People who have an interest in folk music or music in general tend to be more sensitive to
social issues, particularly in folk music. To try to separate ideological statements from an artist's perspective is like gutting the nutrients out of food.

Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie have always had an ideological bent. This inspired their careers. The same can be said for members of the Dixie Chicks. The problem is when ideology runs away with the program. Music and preaching don't mix too well.

The BS section is important because there are many Mudcatters who do care about what's going on in the world today. Why shouldn't they be allowed to express their opinions?

You can't separate art from people's feelings and opinions. Artists are not robots.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Mrrzy
Date: 27 Oct 09 - 02:06 PM

Ah, I keep my proportions better by basically singing all the time, even if it's just to myself...


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: gnu
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 03:27 PM

The BS has given rise to many songs, poetry, and innumerous discussions of important, insightful and informative discourse in a diverse range of subjects, historical and topical.

Unfortunately, the real bullshit has suffered because of same.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 03:24 PM

As in work / life balance, I am going to apply this question to myself, personally.



















There appears to be far more bullshit in my life than there is music.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 03:19 PM

I think a healthy ratio of leaden BullShite is essential as Mudcat's ballast. Too top-heavy with the rarified 'intelectool' discussions in the airy 'up there', and it'd quite obviously topple over to sink and never rise again.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Rog Peek
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 03:13 PM

Yes Spleen Cringe, I know there are exceptions, but generally speaking........ compare the number of postings.

Rog


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 01:32 PM

Thats a good point McGrath


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 01:11 PM

One factor might be that threads are more liable to get amalgamated these days if they are dealing with the same issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 12:53 PM

Well you certainly need balance if you suffer from Vertigo


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Ed T
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 11:27 AM

"The probably everything will be okay - most of the time stuff works out" theory of the universe".... quote unknown


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 10:48 AM

There is 'Music' and there is 'BS'.... take your pick... one or both.. what the heck does it matter??? Who actually cares which gets used most as long as we are happy with what we are doing personally??? Does it need to have a balance?...


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: theleveller
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 09:45 AM

I think that one of the great features of Mudcat is that there is this diversity. It's what makes it so much more interesting than, say, the Beeb Folk and Acoustic Board, which has such restrictive rules and arcane modding that it's almost impossible to discuss wider issues - that's why I don't post there anymore: it's just too frustrating.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 09:34 AM

Hmmm - shouldn't this not be BS?


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 06:23 AM

Rog, err, "what is folk?" ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Rog Peek
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 05:47 AM

Discussion certainly goes on a lot longer on BS threads. I suppose that's because it's easier to achieve a resolution on the music ones - less controversy.

Rog


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Jos
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 05:04 AM

Maybe there are fewer because guests are no longer officially allowed to start BS threads.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 04:57 AM

"Recently there seem to have been a number of complaints that there is too much BS and not enough music discussion."

How peculiar. I can't understand complaints about the BS section. You need to actively click on a tiny link, or deliberately scroll all the way to the bottom in order to find it. Unless you're actually interested in looking in on it yourself, it's a bit like complaining about what other people seem be doing elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: BS: BS/music balance
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 04:56 AM

Too many arguments Richard


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Subject: BS: BS/music balance
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Oct 09 - 04:43 AM

Recently there seem to have been a number of complaints that there is too much BS and not enough music discussion.

It seems to me that the proportion of BS threads to music threads has been falling. Is there any obvious factor that will have been reducing the number and proportion of BS threads?


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