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BS: Paltalk stalkers

GUEST,B.H. 28 Jan 01 - 12:22 AM
Jon Freeman 26 Jan 01 - 03:31 AM
Katcina 26 Jan 01 - 03:12 AM
Jon Freeman 26 Jan 01 - 02:23 AM
GUEST,B.H. 25 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM
harpgirl 25 Jan 01 - 01:46 PM
harpgirl 25 Jan 01 - 01:43 PM
katlaughing 25 Jan 01 - 01:42 PM
harpgirl 25 Jan 01 - 01:37 PM
Mary in Kentucky 25 Jan 01 - 01:02 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 25 Jan 01 - 12:44 PM
dwditty 25 Jan 01 - 12:36 PM
katlaughing 25 Jan 01 - 10:15 AM
Katcina 25 Jan 01 - 08:59 AM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 25 Jan 01 - 08:41 AM
alison 25 Jan 01 - 08:34 AM
Margaret V 25 Jan 01 - 08:26 AM
Mary in Kentucky 25 Jan 01 - 08:22 AM
bigchuck 25 Jan 01 - 07:54 AM
Jon Freeman 25 Jan 01 - 05:22 AM
Jon Freeman 25 Jan 01 - 05:06 AM
Ella who is Sooze 25 Jan 01 - 04:56 AM
Amergin 25 Jan 01 - 04:26 AM
Jon Freeman 25 Jan 01 - 02:46 AM
Jon Freeman 25 Jan 01 - 01:31 AM
katlaughing 25 Jan 01 - 12:44 AM
Jon Freeman 25 Jan 01 - 12:36 AM
alison 24 Jan 01 - 09:44 PM
Amergin 24 Jan 01 - 08:47 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 24 Jan 01 - 08:45 PM
harpgirl 24 Jan 01 - 08:38 PM
Amergin 24 Jan 01 - 06:34 PM
Katcina 24 Jan 01 - 05:56 PM
nutty 24 Jan 01 - 05:47 PM
katlaughing 24 Jan 01 - 05:16 PM
harpgirl 24 Jan 01 - 05:06 PM
Katcina 24 Jan 01 - 04:42 PM
Amergin 24 Jan 01 - 03:42 PM
Katcina 24 Jan 01 - 03:31 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 24 Jan 01 - 02:53 PM
kendall 24 Jan 01 - 02:49 PM
alison 24 Jan 01 - 08:39 AM
GUEST,Matt_R 24 Jan 01 - 07:59 AM
Jon Freeman 24 Jan 01 - 04:52 AM
Amergin 24 Jan 01 - 04:40 AM
Ella who is Sooze 24 Jan 01 - 04:30 AM
Amergin 24 Jan 01 - 03:54 AM
Jon Freeman 24 Jan 01 - 02:46 AM
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Liz the Squeak 24 Jan 01 - 02:11 AM
Jon Freeman 24 Jan 01 - 01:26 AM
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Clifton53 24 Jan 01 - 01:05 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: GUEST,B.H.
Date: 28 Jan 01 - 12:22 AM

Thank you again for the helpful information!


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 03:31 AM

Kat, I honestly believe that the Mudcat room is a friendly and welcoming room and that we do have very few problems.

I think it is ony fair to point out, as we both have, that some thought needs to go into whatever actions need to be taken when something goes wrong.

I think I do have a difference of opinion with you on one issue though. I will happily take an inividual(s)'s problem to PalTalk admin from something starting within this room - I sort of feel a responsibility that anyone joining in there should simply be able to enjoy themselves and put other problems to me to sort out. To some degree, this has to be down to each admin in a room and I don't think there is a right or wrong - just that maybe the room owner does carry that little bit more responsibility.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Katcina
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 03:12 AM

Jon, that is why I mentioned earlier that Pal Talk not only keeps track of people that are bounced, they also keep track of those doing the bouncing and the rooms that it occurs in.

Which is also why it is best if stalkers are handled by their intended victims. Ultimately they are the only ones that can stop it anyway. Remember people, you are only a victim if you allow yourself to be one.

I try not to bounce anyone if I can help it because it not only reflects on me it also reflects on the room I am in, whether it be my own of someone elses.

If anyone finds another person to be a disruptive factor in their enjoyment, all they have to do is to right click on their name in the room list and left click on ignore. They will no longer see any of their text nor hear any of their sounds at the mic.

Hopefully we will seldom have such incidents in Mudcats. It has, so far, had the least number of problem characters of any room that I have been in, including my own. I thoroughly enjoy my time in Mudcats and want everyone else to do the same.

Katcina


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 02:23 AM

Seeing as the subject of bouning has cropped up again, I ask that admins of my room read the Paltalk Permanent Group Amin Guidelines and pay particular attention to the bit that says. "Pick your coadmins wisely because you are responsible for their actions as well as your own. Violations of these guidelines by you or your coadmins will cause the loss of your room and the ability to create new groups in the future."

In this instance, I can understand anger and I have talked to Paltalk about an issue that is not mentioned here but please remember that it is not for us to adopt something like a bounce on sight policy unless it has been confirmed as acceptable usage of admin rights by Paltalk and that the ultimate price that I could pay is loosing the room because of hot-headed actions by a co-admin.

Please just take this as a gentle reminder that there are rules not set by any of us in place that need to be followed and not as a criticism of any admin in the room - I believe everyone does an EXCELLENT job and have no complaints - I am just a little selfish and get nervous at times when I think someone elses action could effect me.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: GUEST,B.H.
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM

I am hoping that atleast all of the female Mudcatters have gotten to read this so they know what to do in instance of predators on Pal Talk and elsewhere. The males may need the information also though I doubt they are subject to the same types of situations. Thanks to all who have helped to clear the matter and inform us of means to stop such abuse.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: harpgirl
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 01:46 PM

...geez, kat...I didn't even get that you thought I was being sarcastic...I was just confused...but I did good on my answer though, don't ya think!


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: harpgirl
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 01:43 PM

...while I'm on the subject let me just say that I find it very difficult to warm up to strangers, aggressive men, and overly friendly people. Too many rapes I guess, unfortunately...(please,no sympathy required)


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 01:42 PM

Sorry, harpgirl, I read your post above and thought you were being sarcastic about some of us wanting a closed room...I read it to mean you thought we were being a bit "xenophobic."

I am not going to post to this one anymore. It will work out, whatever way, but it will have to do so without me. I'll stop in when I can and have the energy.

thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: harpgirl
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 01:37 PM

...kat...I read your post to me, and I don't understand what you mean.....but I am in favor of just singing with mudcatters. The nice outsiders seem to join mudcat and problem solved!as for difficult people joining mudcat...I think all of us hotheads seem to have gone through a learning curve on how to communicate over the internet with a minimum of aggression. I know I have!


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 01:02 PM

dw, refusing a note is not enough. The notes can be very persistent and time consuming...innocuous, but time consuming. The only thing you can do is block them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 12:44 PM

DW well said... Having dealt with the two individuals named in other rooms, it is now my policy to bounce the offenders on sight... Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: dwditty
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 12:36 PM

Magaret, as usual, I agree with you. There are pluses and minuses to Paltalk vis a vis Hearme. I have had some great nights recently on Paltalk, though, enjoying both Mudcatters and others. When I get a "ding" that someone wants to send me a PM or invite me to another room, I simply see who it is, and decide whether to accept or decline, and that is my advice. If the message is from someone you don't "know" then simply decline. As far as creeps targeting women...bounce, bounce, bounce.

I'm in San Diego this week, but look forward to hearing you all again soon.

dw


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 10:15 AM

Thanks, Bigchuck and MaryinKY.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Katcina
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 08:59 AM

Jon, Thanks for getting that information for us. I suspected as much but wasn't certain.

Mary, that must be the case because I keep my privacy setting on contact only from my list but when admin, which is usually anytime I'm on Pal Talk, I still get messages from off the list.

Alison, I hope this has been of some help to you and any others musicians with the problem. As I told you last night, I will support you and any others on this issue. The most important part it for you musicians to do your part with 'ignore & block' the offenders. We as admin are about keeping the room running smoothly and help in any way that we can but some of the job is this case falls back on the injured party. Glad to have been of assist in the other matter of IDs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 08:41 AM

If the offending individual changes his/her name and starts offending again... we learn the new name advise everyone and bounce on sight. They will soon learn that that behaviour will not be tolerated in our room and move elsewhere. If the offender gives cause to assume their intentions are a physical threat we advise international police forces and have them investigated. Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 08:34 AM

I've already warned him Jon... told him that I know what he has been doing to others, and to me and that it won't be tolerated in the room......

he came in and started his usual crap today before amergin bounced him.......

the advice above is good... the registration bit there are a few ticked boxes beside your real name and email.. make sure those are not checked otherwise people can get at them...

today someone suggested keeping a record of anyone who is persistently annoying and emailing it to paltalk.. so they can do a warning and really block them.....

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Margaret V
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 08:26 AM

I don't have a pal list. But when the above-mentioned fellow tried to send me a message the second or third time, I used the option "block" and I haven't had any trouble since. So you don't need to put him on your pal list, or even have a pal list, in order to block him. When he tries to talk to me in open text, I just don't bother responding and that seems to work fine, as katcina suggested.

I don't much care for the private message thing; it distracts me from the main room and that makes me feel rude and antisocial (so much for "multi-tasking"....). So anyone who didn't honor my "excuse me but I'd like to return to the main room now" message would probably end up getting blocked by me.

Nothing is free. I love the more private mudcat scene, and I love the open room too. There are trade-offs with each situation. I'm just enjoying pal-talk thoroughly.

Margaret


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 08:22 AM

kat, I certainly understand both sides of the issue and I come down firmly on the fence. The problem as I see it is just getting enough people to show up. I appreciate all of bigchuck's efforts just keeping the concert notices in front of us for our attention. I for one don't know what I'm doing tomorrow much less next week. There could be privately-scheduled-Mudcat-only-songcircles, and I would probably attend, but I find it very hard to commit in advance. If you'd like to schedule one in the Mudcat Concert room, go ahead, afterall I already have THE LIST of requests.

On the blocking issue, I somehow received messages from somebody after he got booted. Since I didn't add him, I wonder if only an admin can receive these messages. If this happens, take note of the name. Then the admin (I think) can search for that name, add it, and then block it. (Do that when you don't have the message window open)


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: bigchuck
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 07:54 AM

For those who want to try a closed room occasionally, the Concert room is available any night it's not used for a concert. I'll be glad to share the admin code with a few people, just PM me about it. I does occur to me that the nights when I have seen 30 or 35 people in the room that things get pretty unwieldy with that many folks.
Sandy


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 05:22 AM

Ella, I wouldn't worry too much about it although I would suggest that you and any other user check in file/setup and ensure that real name and email are not visible to other users (I even hide mine and I don't get stalked).

Amergin, it is a shame that it has had to reach this point with a user and I must admit I felt very nervous about aopting a bounce on sight policy. I feel easier now I have spoken to PalHelp although I still believe that this should only be used as a FINAL resort and I feel that the offender should be first warned that more stalking of other members will result in this action.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 05:06 AM

oh and kat, it would be pretty well unfeasible as well as unreasonable for me to keep changing the status of the existing room. Apart from the confusion (and possible anger) it would cause, I have to log on to an admin page at Paltalk, change the settings there and ensure the room is closed (which could involve a forced closure) before any such changes take effect.

I suppose I could create another room under a different nickname (not sure PalTalk would approve) or create a temporary room but really, if anyone wants to try the closed room, it should be up to them to set it up and have any "room owner" headaches that may go with it.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 04:56 AM

Alison,

In my naeveness, I never thought about using my name for the Paltalk thing could cause me trouble...

Hopefully I won't get any stalkers, the one that you have had sounds like he has been a pain?

I had a go in Paltalk last night (Wed eve here in the uk), though I was avoiding the fact that I was meant to be writing a speech, I enjoyed the room and it was great to talk to mudcatters... after being a member for the past 2 years or so...

Next time I am by I will sing a song... last night I was feeling a bit rough..

All the best

Ella


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Amergin
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 04:26 AM

Great, Jon, I did that tonight with that character the above ladies were talking about....


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 02:46 AM

OK, I have talked to a member of PalHelp. He says a) that individual usesers should add the offener to Pal List and block user and b) That if it is a PERSISTANT offender, it is perfectly in order to bounce on sight.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 01:31 AM

No kat, you did not offend me. I just felt it necessary to give a more accurate and balanced view to clarify matters.

I am beginning to think that as long as we have the options of public and private rooms, there will always be a division but I remain firmly on the public side. There is probably room for both and I guess it will have to be tried by someone setting up another room.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 12:44 AM

Jon, please, I did not mean to offend you. I shouldn't have listed anyone probably because I haven't been in there enough to know who all has been in there. You have done a fantastic job in both hearMe and Paltalk and I do not mean to belittle your efforts.

Hearme seemed more private. I do like the way Paltalk allows for more control etc....it is much less confusing and I know we've not found anything better.

As I said, I do not want to start a private room and have it cause any hard feelings or division among Mudcatters. I don't see why we couldn't just have one, as I asked before, that was a preset once per week closed session or some such. I'd like to hear what others think on that, too.

Harpgrrrl, you know me better than that; remember the famous Xenophobic thread I started? Sheesh!:-)

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 12:36 AM

katL the privacy issuse is not a Hearme vs Paltalk issue. Or if it is, Paltalk wins by a mile. The only defense we had on Hearme was to keep the URL reasonable quiet and hope that nothing went wrong as there was nothing anyone of us could have done about a trouble maker. Paltalk alows for private (hidden) and locked rooms - both more secure than the old Hearme together with tools to deal with trouble should it occur.

The only reason I can see for moving off Paltalk is one of accessibility and we have yet to prove anything is any better - there were a number of problems with the old Hearme and I was frequently helping people. I have had less of that with Paltalk. The only problem is that those few (please don't get me wrong - I want to see everybody and I miss Bill and daveO.) who are stuck seem to be up against a brick wall.

I am not sure about your list kat. I saw dick Greenhaus in there last night' Spider Tom dropped out of everything connected with folk and there may be reasons other than your suggestions for others not being around.

As for the private room - set one up an try it.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 09:44 PM

OK... I don't have qualms about naming him, especially now that I know he has stalked plenty of others ...... if it alerts others before he targets them its worth doing....... the name he used with me is 'Jaso_23" or "jaso_23".. if he contacts you.. ignore him.....

he may of course have other aliases.....

as do I now seeing as katcina showed me how easy it was.....

I used my usual name (so catters would recognise me.....knowing it might be a problem.. obviously it is easier to target when they know right off that you are a girl... maybe others need to change their names too)

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 08:47 PM

Well, I was wondering if there's a way to block certain folks from the rooms....without locking them....but then the problem is that it is way too possible for one of these SOBs to get a new name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 08:45 PM

The admin can also tell the person who bothers you "If you come in here and bother anyone you will be bounced on sight" Anyone thought of that angle? Let me know who he is and I'll glady do it for you... Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: harpgirl
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 08:38 PM

...I like a closed Paltalk room as well. Alot of the outsiders woop and holler and talk silly. They aren't us! (xenophobic harpgrrrl)


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 06:34 PM

Another slight thread creep....NO TRYING TO MAKE THE ADMIN LOSE IT WHILE HE'S BUSY BUTCHERING A SONG!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Katcina
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 05:56 PM

Yes Nutty, that would prevent unwelcome pm but not the open text in a room unfortunately.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: nutty
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 05:47 PM

I may be wrong about this but could the stalker problem be solved by changing the setup settings so that you can only be contacted by those people who are on your Pal list - that should prevent unwelcome callers - shouldn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 05:16 PM

Katcina, I like the PalTalk room and your point about it being open to all, esp. young folks who may be curious/interested is valid, but Clifton53 also has a very valid point which I happen to agree on.

Before Mudcat had PalTalk we had a HearMe room which was hosted by a Mudcatter on her own website. It was more intimate and private than PalTalk, but anyone who came onto the Mudcat and noticed a HearMe thread could join in quite easily.

I've made no bones about the fact that I still prefer the more close-knit atmosphere of HearMe. There are problems with it, which keep us from using it now and I know PalTalk is more reliable and has better quality. And, we've been through the discussions about making it a closed room on PalTalk or not and the consensus has been to keep it open, except for the Mudcat Concerts.

Some of the poeple who used to come to HearMe are unable to use or, uncomfortable with using PalTalk and I, for one, miss them very much, BillD, IvanB, Night Owl, Little Neophyte, Dick Greenhaus, Spider Tom, BilltheBus, DaveO.......

I am wondering if we could just set a specific time of the week for a closed session, open to any and all Mudcatters, on Paltalk for those of us who prefer it?

Thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: harpgirl
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 05:06 PM

...If you are talking about someone named "Jason", he repeatedly signaled me to be placed on my (non-existent) pal list and I just ignored him! BTW, Katcina, sorry I stepped on that perfomrer the other night. My papers hit the control button!


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Katcina
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 04:42 PM

I'm sorry Alison that I got lost in other thoughts and did not address your problem directly. I am, with some amount of certainty, sure of who is bothering you. I have six female musician friends at Pal Talk that he has acted the same way with and I am believe there are others that I do not know of. The best way to deal with this particular one is to totally ignore him. Within a week or so he will move on to another female who will have to endure for a while. If you acknowledge him in any way he sees it as encouragement on your part and it will just take that much longer before he goes away, though he never seems to completely. I have told all that complain about him to me to take the matter to Pal Talk administration because they not only keep track of how many times a person has been bounced, they also keep track of how many times an admin. has bounced people. Considering the fact that I have my own room and help in 8 others that can become a bit of a problem. I never like to bounce someone but if they are disrupting the room too much I am left with no choice. It is always best if the offended party take it up with administration rather than a third party having to step in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:42 PM

I agree with the thought to leave it an open room....we have had many wonderful performers pass through that would otherwise have not graced our ears....Oh, and I know who one of those stalkers are.... I have a thought, though it might go against some of my beliefs and cause ire amongst you....but maybe make a kind of list of the worst offenders that pass through there....so that we can keep a better eye out...remember it is only a thought, nothing more.

NathanT


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Katcina
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:31 PM

Jon, the next time I see you in Pal Talk I will pm you the name of the worst two 'female musician' stalkers I have run across so far. They both come into Mudcats and I have bounced them both after repeated pms from people about their nuisance.

In the matter of making Mudcats a private room, I find that thought absurd. Though not a musician myself I support all of our great musicians and even those who are not Mudcatters. If we ban all of those who are not Mudcat members then we are losing the chance to pass on th younger musicians all of the fine songs and traditions of folk and blues which would be a sin in my eyes.

Remember all of you, you were young and trying to find your place and what music you were most suited to once. I hope that you will afford our young the same curtousy that someone once gave to you!

Kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:53 PM

Let me know his nickname and if he comes into our Paltalk room I'll bounce him on sight Alison...Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: kendall
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:49 PM

Maybe I could explain the 2nd amendment to him hehehehe


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 08:39 AM

thanks everyone....... I didn't think it was bad enough to alert the admin........ if it was bad enough I could have donned my admin hat and done it myself.... (of course I would have told you Jon... and if it starts happening again I will... but hopefully I've sorted him out).....

Amergin........ hahaha...... I did consider setting Mick on him...... and between Pauls 18 inch bodhran and Mick's 22 inch... they could sort the poor fella out.. or at least deafen him.... *grin*..........

thanks Matt... that's why I couldn't see it in the ordinary options.........

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: GUEST,Matt_R
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 07:59 AM

Alison, if he sends you a PM, it appears in a PM window seperate from the room. The "Options" menu is at the top of the window displaying his tiresome questions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 04:52 AM

Ella, the sessions can start at any time but typically, we are looking at early evening in Mudcat (EST) time and they are 5 hours behind us.

There are a few UK people who do open the room and you also could do if you wish to. Just PM me or speak to any of the admins in there when the room is open.

Amergin, it is possible that the person sending the PM was not aware of the problems this causes so I wouldn't react that strongly but I agree that it is disruptive and coming from anyone who knows the system can only be considered as being plain rude.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 04:40 AM

This is a bit of a thread creep, but the other night one lady was performing (very nicely, I might add), when some one in that room sent her a PM in the middle of her song....and of course it screwed her up....Unfortunately, I didn't get the name of the bastard who did it, so I couldn't do anything....but that is a very bloody rude thing to do...

Amergin


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 04:30 AM

I keep missing the bloomin mudcat sessions... I get in late, have been working on my puter all day at work.. and lately the last thing I want to do is go home and turn on the laptop...

But anyways, what time (UK time) roughly do the concerts and singing circles take place...

Just incase I can face the puter at home...

Ella

PS... what worried me to start off with in paltalk, was that my email was displayed... but have now sorted that out, and hidden it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Amergin
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 03:54 AM

Alison,

Want me to tell Mick or Paul to leave you alone?*BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:46 AM

Oh and I would guess that in the Mudcat Song Circle room, as it is in my name, I should be made aware of any consistent abusers within the room.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:31 AM

Liz, I do not know the full situation with PalTalk but I believe that every bouncing is monitored. I suspect that they would get involved if the same person was constantly getting bounced.

And yes, in terms of sanctions that can be taken against abusers, PalTalk is very strong.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 02:11 AM

Yeah, but isn't Mudcat here a public forum too?? Any old guest can add their four penno'th, nice or nasty.... At least on PT you can block incoming PMs.....

It he gets bounced enough times, then surely he'll get the message about responsible behaviour.... if he doesn't then he gets bounced before he can even contribute...

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 01:26 AM

Alison, I would block the user but if he is pestering from within a group such as the Mudcat room, alert the admin who should take the matter up with the offender and probably bounce if the behaviour continues.

Paltalk like any public place will have idiots around but there are comparitively few in PalTalk and they are easily dealt with by either blocking (by an individual) or bouncing from a room.

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 01:14 AM

just in case I've worried anyone that Paltalk is crawling with undesirables...... I haven't met many people I want to avoid on Paltalk... there are certainly many more weirdos and perverts who message me through ICQ...... but I know how to deal with them in ICQ so it isn't a problem........

I just wanted to know how to "control" them on Paltalk....

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 01:09 AM

most of the people I have met in the mudcat room have been great... they may not be regular mudcatters... but they are good musicians & singers.. and after meeting them a few times.... they become friends.....

you can have a locked room with a password.. so only people who know the password can get in (that's what they do for the mudcat concerts)....... so if anyone is more comfortable with that they can easily open a locked room and issue private invites... or start a thread with the password......

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Clifton53
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 01:05 AM

I've been dropping by the site to listen now and then, and I didn't know about these problems. I don't suppose there is any way to make it exclusive to Mudcatters is there? I for one would be much more comfortable just dealing with folks from the forum.

Clifton


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 01:04 AM

thanks I see how to do it if I add them as a Pal then block them... but I can't see your other option Matt..

he doesn't do it in a room... he was in the same room (mudcat)... but kept messaging outside the room......

thanks again for your help Matt and kat

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 12:59 AM

Alison, I just did a quick search on "blocking" and "ignore" at PalTalk's site. The only thing I cam up with was this:

Q. I don't really care to listen to someone in the room. Can I mute him (or her)?

A. Just RIGHT CLICK on their name and select IGNORE IN GROUP.
You will no longer hear them.

Hope that helps. You might also consider reporting him if he doesn't stop.

There is someone who keeps sending me a request to be his pal and I just keep deleting the message. I don't even recognise the name.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Paltalk stalkers
From: Matt_R
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 12:57 AM

Yes, Alison. Under the PM window, click on the "options" menu, then "Block Pal". OR add them as a Pal, then right-click on their name in the Pal List, and click "block user". Then remove them from your list. Problem solved!


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Subject: Paltalk stalkers
From: alison
Date: 24 Jan 01 - 12:52 AM

I encountered a new problem today..... what do you do if someone keeps messaging you? Is there an ignore button?

He's not doing anything offensive... but he just keeps asking the same question over and over...... and I'm getting sick of it.............

... and yes I have fronted him about it.....

but if it continues... I want to know where the "ignore" button is....... also handy in case a really offensive type appears..........

slainte

alison


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