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POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!

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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Jun 01 - 03:26 AM

I would appreciate him even if he did, Spaw. But seriously doubt he would do that. He's a good pinko-commie liberal, just like his little mommy.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 11:05 PM

A few brief glimpses of sun today. SOMEONE's gotta be to blame for this lousy weather...

Must be Dubya! Right, MAV? (arf arf arf...) :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 10:57 PM

All,

For what it's worth, I saw the sun today, it was bright and warm.

I could get used to that.

Rain tommorrow?

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 10:16 PM

Yeah, well, Carol, just tell your son not to play it out in deep right field....................

Spaw (from the capital of rain....25 out of the last 30 days and it has rarely gotten above 70)


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jun 01 - 08:25 PM

Beautiful bright sunny day at my son's high school graduation yesterday (Monday).

You would have enjoyed it MAV. Carl Bernstien (of Woodward and Bernstien fame) gave the commencement speach. He graduated from my son's high school in 1961. It was a great speach. He basically said that whatever your academic standing was in high school, it's a whole new ball game from here on out.

Sounds about right to me.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: GUEST,MAV
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 11:05 PM

Sir,

Rained its guts out again today.

More rain in the last 3 days than in all of April and May.

sigh!

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 03:19 PM

It's dreary, that's what it is. Tedious, too.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: hesperis
Date: 04 Jun 01 - 03:11 PM

3 pm in the Sunshine City, (no I didn't make that up, Orillia really is called that,) and we haven't had much sunshine for the past few days.

No rain yet today though?


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 03:42 PM

Dear Little Hawk,

It was raining cats and dogs, and they chased each other around the yard.

Then it started coming down in sheets, made me tired just looking at it.

Guess I'll take a nap.

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 02:33 PM

Okay. It's 2:40 pm on Sunday, and it's a dreary, rainy day here. The traffic is sloshing by outside. The rain is slight but persistent. Wait..let me take a look out the window...

Well, the sky is lightening some. I was hoping to do some radio control sailboat sailing today, but I doubt that I will, given the present conditions. We'll see.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 12:07 PM

Hey, Meteorologist Little Hawk,

How about the weather report from Orillia, Ontario?

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Bert
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 01:14 AM

Just an aside to Larry in this rather personal thread.

When I got my US Citizenship, one of the questions they asked was "Do you relinquish all inherited titles". As a working class, fourth generation boilermaker, I found that quite amusing.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 03 Jun 01 - 12:40 AM

Hey Little Hawk,

Thanks, I may do just that, although I'm not sure I know how to do anything but "POL" threads...arf arf arf.

Later Dude,

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 09:10 PM

Wow, MAV, ya got me...I'm not sure. My guess would be that they were playing straight harp (first position) rather than blues harp, which probably came later, I suspect. I think the term "Marine Band", however, had to do with the official band of the U.S. Marines...there was a picture of such a band on the label, as I recall. Haven't bought a marine band harmonica in some time, I prefer Big River.

Concertinas were definitely popular on the old ships, as were fiddles, pennywhistles, and other small instruments.

That's about all the help I can give. You ought to launch a thread on this question, I think.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 02 Jun 01 - 07:56 PM

Sir,

So, what is your question about harmonicas?

Uncle Jaque had a "Chanty Sing" in Portland a while back which centers around 1800s music from sailing ships.

He told me there was usually no instrumental accompaniment as Chantys were sung while hard labor was being done. He said that there was also a recreational style of "forecastle" (pronounced fox-ul) singing that may have had a little more room for instrumentation. I figured grand piano was definately out due to its size and weight in a heavy sea, but concertinas and harmonicas may have found their way into that music form.

My question therefore is:

Have you ever encountered vintage maritime harmonica players? (hence the term Marine band?)

If so, is it in 1st position harp?

Good question, eh?

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: mousethief
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 12:18 PM

It really *IS* all about Little Hawk! Hehehe!

Alex


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 12:07 PM

Lovely. I keep wondering why the hell MAV started this particular thread...???

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: flattop
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 07:32 AM

Hey, it's not all that bad. I got the windows open a crack. I'm getting fresh Mississauga air blowing off the lake and past the Petrocan oil refinery.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 May 01 - 10:39 PM

Ugh!

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: hesperis
Date: 31 May 01 - 10:27 PM

He means that the car that the dog lives in cost $40,000 and smells like dog, too.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 May 01 - 09:53 PM

My God, flattop, you are describing a scene from one of the outer circles of Dante's inferno! What in the world do you mean about "driving the forty-thousand dollar doghouse"?

Did you see the thread I launched warning about a computer virus hoax that's going the rounds? The stupid hoax has already fooled my accountant and another friend into screwing up their computers.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: hesperis
Date: 31 May 01 - 09:37 PM

Eeeeehhhhh, poor flattop!!!!!!!

Whoa, if I had to live in a basement with three cat litter boxes, I'd probably be in the hospital pretty fast! You are coping well! (Of course, you're not allergic to them, are you?)


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: flattop
Date: 31 May 01 - 09:31 PM

You're welcome, Little Hawk. I'm adjusting to living in a basement with three cat litter boxes. Yes, I might be suffering from a dependent state of mindlessness. Can't say that it's fun even when I get to drive the forty-thousand-dollar doghouse. Knowing that she's old for a Great Dane and that she is having problems with her anal gland doesn't improve the smell.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Matt_R
Date: 31 May 01 - 02:55 PM

Too bad, it was a pretty good song.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 May 01 - 02:00 PM

Matt - Really? Hmmm. Well, I know almost nothing about rap because I try to avoid hearing it any way I can. I did have a girlfriend whose son was into M.C. Hammer (later known as just Hammer), but that's about it. Sean "Puffy" Combs could get abducted by Martians or eaten by a horde of rabid gerbils, and I wouldn't blink an eye. All the rappers in the world could vanish down a black hole and I wouldn't lose one night of sleep. I live in blissful ingnorance of the inner workings of the world of rap. :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Matt_R
Date: 30 May 01 - 09:04 PM

Um, LH.....Fuzzbubble is the rock band that played with Notorious B.I.G., Sean "Puffy" Combs, Mase, Faith Evans, Lil Kin and other members of "The Family" in their groundbreaking rock/rap fusion "It's All About The Benjamins".


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 May 01 - 05:56 PM

Not to worry, Shad. I'm Matt's friend, and I was just razzing him a little. I've got no objection to Fuzzbubble, specially if it was inspired by his cat.

BeelzeBand could be a great name for a Death Metal type group of young morons, however. I'm surprised it hasn't been taken already.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: SDShad
Date: 30 May 01 - 05:26 PM

Well, I think there's plenty of room in the world for both Fuzzbubble and BeelzeBand.

Can't we all just get along?

Rodney Shad


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: GUEST
Date: 30 May 01 - 03:38 PM

Oh, well, okay then...

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Matt_R
Date: 30 May 01 - 03:23 PM

I like Fuzzbubble better!! I have a cat who is QUITE a fuzzbubble!


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 May 01 - 03:19 PM

"Fuzzbubble"??? Terrible name. How about "BeelzeBand"?

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Matt_R
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:46 PM

Lol....and SD, I never knew what "The Benjamins" were until last week!! BTW isn't "Fuzzbubble" a cool band name?


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: SDShad
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:32 PM

The saddest, part, Matty me boy, is that I heard "It's All About the Pentiums" long before I ever heard "It's All About the Benjamins." Had no idea what the boy was spoofin'....

Shad


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: InOBU
Date: 30 May 01 - 10:45 AM

Gee as long as this is a dumb ass thread...
Check out htt://sorchadorcha.com . I figure "guest" wont mid a plug in a dumbassed thread!
Would ya? - Larry


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Matt_R
Date: 30 May 01 - 09:19 AM

SD, I somehow knew you would know that!!


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: CarolC
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:56 AM

Believe it or not, Little Hawk, flattop was paying you a compliment. He's been working with his Zen Master to achieve that state of mindless detachment from physical reality that you and I both know we all want. He said he's using you as a spiritual role model, and hopes to achieve your level of spiritual enlightenment some day. He knows it will probably take the better part of the rest of his life to accomplish this, but with you as his inspiration, he's willing to give it his best shot.

Wish him luck! ;-)


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 May 01 - 01:26 AM

Hmmm...was that a compliment, or...

Well, she did say "almost".

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: hesperis
Date: 30 May 01 - 01:21 AM

Well, he's definitely an idependant state unto himself... but mindlessness?

Considering that the guy is almost TOO intelligent, I doubt that's a problem for him.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 May 01 - 01:12 AM

Thanks, flattop! How ya doin' these days? Better than a dependent state of mindlessness anyway...right?

MAV - Yes, I am your friend, and you can call me "sir" if you want. Larry just couldn't resist some "working class hero" type of comment, that's all.

So, what is your question about harmonicas?

Spaw - I'm sorry, I should indeed have refreshed for 3 years as you suggested. Hey, if you think this is a dumbass thread, well, maybe you need to listen to some David Bowie...know what I mean?

I can see where this is going be a lot of fun, and now we have a new prefix...POL...for political threads. For that contribution alone, MAV should receive some thanks from the Mudcat, don't you think?

Larry - thanks for the kinnickinik! Looks like we are in for a lengthy siege.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: flattop
Date: 30 May 01 - 12:44 AM

Little Hawk is an independent state of mindlessness.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 11:02 PM

Oh Greg,

I forgot, my salute to JJ.

Don't let the door hit ya

Where the Good Lord split cha

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: kendall
Date: 29 May 01 - 10:31 PM

Why do we argue? all politicians are crooks. When a democrat turns his coat, the other democrats yell "Traitor!" and, when a republican turns his coat, other republicans scream "Traitor" Well, it all comes down to this, IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHOSE OX IS GORED.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: GUEST,Wierd Al Yankovic
Date: 29 May 01 - 10:16 PM

No, Matt, it's all about the Pentiums!

Shad


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:42 PM

Dear Lorcan Ri,

Wow, I've gotten in trouble here for a lot of things, but calling someone Sir?

SEE! I told you conservatives get targeted for everything!

Well, as far as I know, LH is Canadian, the kinder, gentler American. I think he is my friend and I am certainly his.

Down here in the states, it's either Sir or "You Bastard". I thought I had chosen wisely.

I'll try to be more sensitive in the future, as you ALL know, I need all the friends I can get.

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Matt_R
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:37 PM

NO, it's all about the Benjamins!


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:28 PM

GEez Hawk, you should have refreshed for three years and you could have gotten about 58.......Most of them are the equal of this one on the "DUMBASS THREAD" scale too.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: InOBU
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:13 PM

PS Hey LH, accept some vertual Kinikanik from me for the fox hole! Larry


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: InOBU
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:12 PM

Dear MAV,
as a conservative you should be more careful about throwing titles around! I am sure my brother Kev, and Little Hawk would bristle as I do at being called Sir. There have been Sirs in our family (Sir John Otway for example) but now we are just happy to be, well productive, workers, happy workers, no title! Brothers and Sisters in that greatest of all fraternaties, the producing class. Sir implies that we are useless parasites. Now, I know that over here in the US, the fact that titles are disavowed, we get sloppy about these things, as well, they mean so little, but my dear, dear MAV PLEASE! Sir? In Ireland we pronouce that Sor... louse os Gaelige... so, how bout friend?
Lorcan Ri


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: hesperis
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:11 PM

Sure, I'd rather talk about "good ol' Joe" than american politics, anyday... but that's not saying much.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 09:10 PM

Little Hawk,

Actually it's a continuation of the Jeffords thing, but your post gave me the idea. I was going to call it "IT'S ALL ABOUT MAV" but.....well, you can just imagine.

So, enjoy Sir! People from far and wide will come here to see:

Who Little Hawk is.

What Hi-Jinx Little Hawk is up to now.

What pearls of wisdom will fall from your lips.

Every little detail you wish to divulge about the best events in your life.

******************************************************

You could put on a special show.

You could PM some folks for tips and pretend to be real mean and nasty and do serious battle with the vile and hated MAV. (Nah, you ain't like that)

Music, yeah, yeah, that's it you could talk about music....?

WE COULD ARGUE ABOUT MUSIC!!(nah)

Harmonicas! (I do have a question by the way)

I'm sure you'll think of something good.

Let me know if you need any help.

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 08:49 PM

Who? Anybody here want to talk about Joe Clark instead? No? Aw, darn it...

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 08:44 PM

John P,

Mav, I am just asking you to be a better person. Defending your actions by saying that others do the same thing so it's all right if you do it is not a step in that direction

Sir, in case you haven't noticed, we (Republicans) have a reputation for allowing the bullets to rattle down around our ears without ever firing back.

Much of this is because the press and the democrats can hurl all the disinformation and spin at us without any consequences, but let a GOP member show a little spirit or screw up in any manner and they are fair game and it's hunting season, no bag limit.

Trying to get the press and the opposition leadership to like us is nonproductive, illogical, stupid and very OVER!

Please take responsibility for your own actions.

I certainly take plenty of heat for them and I'll also take responsibility for my reactions.

mav out

PS. Evan Novak just said that (in his opinion) Senator Torricelli (the Torch) may be asked to leave the Senate in exchange for his not being prosecuted on massive corruption charges.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 08:35 PM

By God, Larry, it IS the Conservative Cavalry!

Okay, MAV, what are you up to using my name to launch another political thread? A low blow, sir. I hope you roll around all night sweating with remorse for having done this!

Besides, the intricacies of the left-right squabbles in the US Congress are simply too much for me to bother to keep track of. We've got conservatives of our own to deal with in Ontario, Canada, and that uses up enough of our energy as it is.

If I could convince Mike Harris to resign, move south, become an American citizen, join the Republican Party, and run for Congress I would. But I can't. He likes his little fiefdom here in Ontario, and he's a stubborn man.

So, whaddya want from me? :-)

By the way, I've noticed that in Canada as well as the USA, parties can "scrape into power with a razor-thin majority"...or even a minority of the popular vote (happens quite often in a multi-party system)...and the very next day they are acting like they have a TOTAL mandate to do anything they want. Why? Because they can. As they say, "power corrupts".

I believe it would be better to run a government (or any group of people) by consensus than by majority rule, but given the present competitive and disrespectful attitudes that are prevailing in mainstream society, consensus would be very, very hard to achieve.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 08:19 PM

Dear Little Hawk,

Is this my 15 minutes of fame, MAV?

Although I'm hardly a "king maker", it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 08:17 PM

Mr. McGrath, Sir;

argue: To debate, discuss, bring reasons for and against...to persuade by discussion and reasoning...to maintain a position by giving reasons...to reason, dispute keenly.

OK, I'll do my best, thank you for giving me this occasion to politely answer your points.

But surely the point of the Jeffords thing is that here you have a party machine that has scraped into power with a razor thin majority (and a very questionable one at that)

Well, there are several points here:

1. The House has a pretty good (R) majority, the Florida vote counts, including those by the media but excepting the one(s) that counted illegal ballots were all Bush wins.

2 Ashcroft could have challenged his Senate race, but chose to be respectful to his deceased former opponent's wife.

3. There is another iffy Senate race that should have been challenged (I can't remember who it was, I'll find out).

Voter fraud (vote early and often) is very widespread in US cities as can be seen in Milwaukee, Miami, Philadelphia and Chicago etc. and it's our fault for not being more vigilent. We certainly will be during next election cycle especially in FL where the punch card ballots are gone.

This method was used in other high fraud areas and will be suspect if still in use next time around.

this was achieved on the basis of a pledge to act moderately and inclusively.

Actually I'll respectfully challenge this comment:

1. He ran as a "Compassionate Conservative" (not a moderate) which believes in tough love, self reliance and social programs run at the community level.

2. He has been getting the (bipartisan) cooperation of enough democrats to have the tax cut legislation pass by 62 to 38, much to Daschle's chagrin.

3. He coddled the "moderates" (liberal Republicans) way too much and this is where it got him. Jeffords helped reduce the size of the Bush tax cut and helped increase education spending 11 percent (the largest increase in history).

As far as inclusion is concerned: Do we want liberal Republicans?....No.

Do you think the democrats want conservatives in their ranks? I think not. They have a "my way or the highway" management style, promising no committee chairmanships and a primary opponent in the next election if you fail to "go along to get along" and vote as you are told.

That's why we say "there's no democracy in the democrat party".

It then proceeds to act as if it had a landslide majority and a massive mandate

If he can continue to go over the heads of the democrat caucus leadership directly to the voters, he will have a massive mandate. If he continues to get 60% of the Senate to vote his way, he has a "good enough" mandate.

In those circumstances it is hardly fair to criticise someone for sticking to the policies they were elected on, and dumping the political affiliation that is now being used to overturn those policies

How about sticking to the party he was JUST elected by, who provided volunteers and money to put him there as well as preventing a primary opponent from spoiling his chances.

His policies have absolutely nothing to do with the GOP platform and philosophy.

Of course that's the Vermont GOPs fault for backing a liberal Republican.

He didn't leave for your reason as he was certainly appeased by the administration. He was afraid the socialist Bernie Sanders would beat him in the next election.

You should see what Daschle said about Ben Nighthorse Campbell when he became a Republican. (To paraphrase) He should resign and re-run as a GOP candidate. The balance of power in the Senate was not even in question at that time.

Of course the same principle does not apply to Jeffords because Daschle is fickle with his "integrity".

mav out


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:36 PM

Huh? Hang on, brother, gotta take a look and see. Feel welcome to the foxhole, it's already been smudged.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: InOBU
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:32 PM

Is this the conservative calvery finally ariving? Note, the go for the indians first... I just glanced at the last post about Jeffers, and well, I'm flumoxed. Well, as I said before - its a trade, Ben Knight Horse Campbell for Jeffers, hey here we go with Indians again... I dunno.
Hey Kola, you got any Carribou down in that fox hole? I'll join ya if ya do... Larry


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:26 PM

Yikes! He's got 47 threads with his name in them in the last 2 years. I believe I started 2 of them.

I am, like, Sooooo humbled, eh? :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:22 PM

Oh, yeah...I remember those 2 now...

I'm gonna see how many Spaw has.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: CarolC
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:19 PM

One was the Hola! thread, and the other was a performance you gave. Put 'Little Hawk' into the filter and set the age for about a year, and they'll come up for you.


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:15 PM

I missed your post, Carol...what are the other two?

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:14 PM

Fine. Be like that.

I'm gonna give the weather report from Orillia, Ontario as of right now. It's 7:11 pm, a cool but beautiful day, with sun and scattered cloud and moderate breezes. Nice day for a walk, but wear a jacket.

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: CarolC
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:12 PM

Cool, Little Hawk! You got your name in another thread title. It looks like three for you now. Way to go!


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:10 PM

What the heck! Back here again? I feel like I'm running around on a moebius strip (is that how it's spelled?).

Is this my 15 minutes of fame, MAV?

- LH


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Subject: RE: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:06 PM

Uh-oh...I see trouble coming here.

- LH (climbing hastily into his foxhole and hunkering down...)


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Subject: POL: IT'S ALL ABOUT LITTLE HAWK!
From: MAV
Date: 29 May 01 - 07:03 PM

And me of course.

Go Back to Salute to Jeffords

mav out


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