Who 2 fear? Bush or Stewart Esq.?

Subject: RE: Who 2 fear? Bush or Stewart Esq.?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 05:03 AM

Nice old mudfight in Australia, Larry, over the government's right to declare any organisation to be a "terrorist organisation." A very unsatisfactory definition was to be used.

Fortunately, it was hit on the head, as was the proposition that the presumption of innocence until proof of guilt be waived for "terrorists".

I must admit to some curiosity (and this applies to both Australia and the US) about older established "terrorist" organisations. The IRA have fund raising fronts in both countries, but as far as I can see there has been no action taken against them. This is despite their coming very clearly under the provisions of the panic legislation.

Does this mean that if action against some group is going to lose votes for the government, it doesn't matter if they are terrorists? At the same time, persecuting your friend might win a few votes (it won't lose any - I bet all her friends voted against Bush anyway!), then she's fair game.

Subject: Who 2 fear? Bush or Stwewart Esq.?
From: InOBU
Date: 28 Jun 02 - 12:48 PM

As some of you may recall, a friend of mine, Lynne Stewart has been arrested for "aiding terrorism", in her role as a lawyer. We had a very good discussion on mudcat, and now, this link (sorry for the ludite not being able to do the blue clicky thing...) clickety has a good evaluation of what is at stake. I hope friends find it useful.
Cheers all,
Larry

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