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BS: What is a hero?

Steve in Idaho 24 Jul 02 - 05:01 PM
katlaughing 24 Jul 02 - 05:54 AM
Kaleea 24 Jul 02 - 02:26 AM
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khandu 23 Jul 02 - 08:18 PM
catspaw49 23 Jul 02 - 12:33 PM
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Chip2447 23 Jul 02 - 02:10 AM
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Bill D 22 Jul 02 - 10:45 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 05:01 PM

Thank you Chip -

And no it has nothing to do with risking one's mortal life. I wonder if this particular GUEST has considered their words in light of their generalities that rarely apply.

And I meet them every day - Thank You very much -

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 05:54 AM

I've known some heroes and heroines who did not take any direct action to save someone related or not. Their courage was in standing up and being counted, against the stream of the masses, in speaking out and risking all for a matter of principle, belief, conviction, etc. They are the ones who can write and put their names to it, publically, speaking for those who dare not.

I do not mean as a victim, but as someone who sees a broader picture than is being generally presented and has the ability to present an alternative which speaks for those who may be victims of whatever social injustice, etc. they write about. Sometimes, it takes a lot of courage to put words to paper and have it published.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Kaleea
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 02:26 AM

I saw many programs on TV after 9-11 which discussed this exact subject. One definition which I particularly liked was one which "Charlie Gibson" on Good Morning America said, that a "hero" is an ordinary person who does something extraordinary to help or save another. (I am presuming that one does not need to qualify this by saying the the something extraordinary should be for good & not evil.)


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 09:58 PM

You risked your life, but what else have you ever risked? Have you ever risked disapproval? Have you ever risked economic security? Have you ever risked a belief?

Real courage is risking something you have to keep on living with. Real courage is risking something that might force you to rethink your thoughts and suffer change and stretch consciousness.

Tom Robbins

Met any heroes lately?


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: khandu
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 08:18 PM

YAS, AMAN! Brother Spaw, preach it!!

khandu

PS..I do believe this is the first time you have mis-typed my name!

k.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 12:33 PM

I have found another place where my friend Khandu and I can agree I believe........A Gyro cannot hold a dead, wet, match to a Muffaletta, the "Muffy" being possibly the greatest sandwich in the world.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 12:15 PM

The interesting thing (to me) about gyros is that most people think it's from Greece, but it was invented in Chicago. It has the same relation to Greece that Chow Mein has to China.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: SharonA
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 12:01 PM

I stand corrected on the pronunciation of "gyros". Sorry about that; I have a friend who insists that the pronunciation "HEE-ro" is correct, and up to now I haven't done any research to verify or dispute that. But this thread has prompted me to delve into the subject, at least far enough to come up with a couple of web-pages about it:

An article entitled "Just How Do You Pronounce Gyros, Anyway? And is The Gosh-Darned Word Plural, or Singular?" (http://users.erols.com/textuscs/gyros/justhow.html)

A restaurant review, complete with pronunciation of the name (http://www.louisvillehotbites.com/omar.shtml)

And here's an excerpt from a Scherzi & Sospiri column entitled "More Songs About Squiggles and Sounds" (http://www.inu.org/scherzi/200101/entry5.htm):

Every time I go to order a gyro from a sandwich store, I have to decide whether to pronounce it the way my mother, a native speaker of Greek, pronounced it, or pronounce it like "jy-row" (if umlauts are tricky, I'm not even going to attempt IPA).

The Greek gamma is pronounced further back in the throat than the English g. Before certain vowels (typically ones pronounced in the back of the mouth), gamma sounds a lot like a g, but maybe with some gargling. Before other vowels (typically ones pronounced in the front of the mouth), it sounds more like a y, but maybe with a little buzzing. The upsilon in gyro, transliterated as y, and pronounced in Modern Greek as "ee" is one of the front vowels that make gamma sound more like a y.

Once I went up to the counter at the Great Wraps that used to be at the Cambridgeside Galleria and asked for a "yeero" (rolled r and all) and was met with a blank stare. After I asked for a "jyrow" I was understood. I was handed a sandwich whose proximity to gyrohood was consistent with its pronunciation.

Readers who are familiar with my non-confrontational methods will not be surprised to know that although I love those peculiar lamb sandwiches, I will not order them aloud. In fact, I have avoided asking for gyros for many years longer than I've avoided Münster. There is such a thing as knowing too much for one's own good.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Chip2447
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 02:10 AM

A hero is an ordinary person, inspired by emotional, physical, and or mental stimulii, who, knowingly or not react abnormally to the situation at hand and perform extraordinary actions for the benefit of others.

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 12:36 AM

Isn't it gyros for the singular?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 10:45 PM

then how do you say 'gyroscope'? ...and who decided?


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: khandu
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:27 PM

OH, sorry, Wincing Devil. I agree with your definition! :-D.

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: khandu
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:25 PM

Where I sometime dine a hero and a muffaletto are two different items. But...what the hell do they know; they say Guinness is beer!!

INFIDELS!

khandu


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:05 PM

gyro= ye' (as in hear-ye, hear-ye) + row


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 05:49 PM

Leander..'almost' naked


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: sponge
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 05:31 PM

Cos YOu havn't made one yet...now theres a thought, a nude Leander with baldricks.... S.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 05:00 PM

Ah, whatever happened to the humble sandwich.

And why isn't there a naked statue of Leander?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 04:10 PM

Right on, DonF! And SharonA, po'boys have more fried stuff than heros do. For instance, a fried oyster po'boy would not be an oyster hero. Heros tend to have cold cuts... (Spaw?)


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Don Firth
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 03:56 PM

Someone who is willing to stick his or her neck out on a matter of principle, especially when he or she has nothing to gain and, quite possibly, much to lose.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 03:37 PM

A hero, according to Joseph Campbell is, "whatever I say it is." And he/she/it is always/usually/sometimes wearing a mask.*

* see my books for elaborations on the subject

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: MMario
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 12:58 PM

Are they really? (at least - should they be?) around here 'gyro' is prounced jie-ro or jear-o


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: SharonA
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 12:44 PM

Come to think of it, a hero (sandwich) ain't the same thing as a gyro, even though they're pronounced the same way.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: SharonA
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 12:42 PM

Mrrzy says "a hero ain't the same thing as a po'boy." I did not know that; sorry! What's in a po'boy?


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 12:40 PM

To me a hero is someone who risks their life for others who are unrelated and for no personal gain. Thus a mother throwing herself into the raging waters to save her child is not a hero, but if she throws herself in to save someone else's child, she is. Any volunteer firefighter is. I'm not sure about a paid firefighter... are they doing it for the money, in which case, no they aren't, but if they're doing it for the sake of the humans they rescue, they are?

Living in the South, I can tell you that a hero ain't the same thing as a po'boy.


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: SharonA
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:45 AM

Wincing Devil, I think your dictionary's definition 1d (one who shows great courage) comes closest to your own. I have the same dictionary here, and one of the definitions under "heroic" is "grand; noble". It also mentions honor, which I think is a key component of a hero's makeup.

Pedant alert! The plural of the English word "hero" is actually "heroes", though it is often misspelled as "heros".

Here's a page about Hero and Leander (PARENTS TAKE NOTE: At the top of this page is a statue of Hero, unclothed, so depending on your opinion of the nude figure in art, you may or may not want to shield your kids' eyes): http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Hero.html

Now, the sandwich of which Don speaks is not universally known as a "hero". Depending on which part of the US you're in when you make one, it's a grinder, a submarine, a hoagie, a muffuletta, or a po' boy. But whatever you call it, don't forget the tomatoes... and put some hot peppers on mine, will ya?


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:18 AM

Easy - The male equivalent of a shero.

A 'ro' being a small furry creature with large lips that lives only the northeast most corner of Mesapotamia. A little know fact about heros is that they can, during extreme conditions, flash on and off in the dark giving them a stoboscopic method of confusing their enemies.

The sheros however have no such defensive mechanism but are rarely touched by preditors due to the fact that they taste remarkably like McDonalds cheeseburgers.

Back to you Mr Robertson...


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:23 AM

(ref Don's post)
I think I'd prefer my hero undressed thanks.

KRis


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 21 Jul 02 - 11:28 PM

Hero was a Greek writer who may have invented the earliest known steam turbine about 200 BC.

Heros are generally the most common of people who act extraordinarily, usually for the betterment of someone else.

and

three parts assorted meats, 2 parts various cheeses, several leaf like vegetables, some hot edible bulbs, thinly sliced and a small loaf of crusty french like bread. May be dressed or not.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: What is a hero?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jul 02 - 11:12 PM

Greek Hero was Leander's love, a woman.


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Subject: What is a hero?
From: Wincing Devil
Date: 21 Jul 02 - 11:10 PM

Let's consider the other side of the coin:

What is a hero?

I'll start it off by saying a hero is someone who goes out of their way to make someons elses life better.

I don't like any of Merriam Webster's definitions:

Main Entry: he·ro
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural heroes
Etymology: Latin heros, from Greek hErOs
Date: 14th century
1 a : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability b : an illustrious warrior c : a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities d : one that shows great courage
2 a : the principal male character in a literary or dramatic work b : the central figure in an event, period, or movement
3 plural usually heros : SUBMARINE 2
4 : an object of extreme admiration and devotion : IDOL


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