Is this rong? not allowed etc

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: JennyO
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 07:21 AM

I'm having a band with hurdy gurdy and pipes (very loud) at my folk club this Thursday. I like them, but they are not to everyone's taste.

Love 'em or hate 'em, but you can't ignore 'em!

Sorry Sandra (who tells me she won't be going).

Jenny

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 05:27 PM

At least selling a guitar is music related. I have aquired a great hurdy gurdy through Mudcat(initially) but many seem to think it isn't music related!

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 01:30 PM

Charley, you could always do what a couple of others have done and set aside a percentage of your ebay proceeds for Mudcat, but of course it's only a suggestion. I don't know if they actually did or not. I think it makes a lot more sense to sell big ticket items, i.e. instruments, on ebay, too, because of the size of the market. I also think it would be fine to post a notice/link so that we know what you've put on ebay.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 01:16 PM

As evidenced by its use in several previous threads, "rong" is the correct Hull9ish spelling for a common word which is synonomous with "incorrect".

And if I were to use the 'Cat to sell an instrument it would be through the auction. It just seems like the "wright" thing to do.

Bruce

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:57 PM

I have a couple of instruments I plan to sell in a month or so but I'll probably post them on e-Bay because there are so many more potential bidders. I would also like to post a notice thread here of what I was placing for sale on e-Bay, which won't do a whole lot for Mudcat but might steer some serious bidders to e-Bay.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 11:20 AM

i asked permission from joe o last year to advertise my b/c button accordian for sale/exchange.

having ok'ed it with him first, i did but didn't get any takers.

i sort of got a buyer now but need to find the price of a decent s/h g/c melodeon, so i can ask a similar price for the accordeon.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: InOBU
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 07:26 AM

AND John! When you do sell the guitar, take a few quid out to go to hear the Boat Band! They are quite fantasitic! Good luck pal, Larry

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 10:51 PM

I had a great experience with The Mudcat Auction. Charcloth was selling a resonator banjo because he wanted an open back. There was lots of feedback from members who knew a lot more about his Banjo than I did. Charcloth had set an amount that he wanted to receive, anything over that amount went to the Mudcat. So, I got a Bluegrass banjo that I am really happy with, Charcloth was able to buy his open back and Mudcat made somewhere in the neighbourhood of seventy or eighty dollars. I was made aware of the auction by a thread mentioning that the banjo was in the auction.

I think that some people think that the auction is only for items where all proceeds go to Mudcat. That is not the case, there are several options.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: JedMarum
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 10:01 PM

I can't imagine it would be a very effective site for selling your guitar - but there may be a reason to try. We're a pretty small group of folks, on the scale of things - your sales ad will not be seen by a large buying audience - and you'll almost certainly have shipping probs.

BUT we have lots of regional even local topics of general interest on Mudcat. Even if I don;t have any need to know details of goings on in Hull, Dublin, Sydney or Calgary - I still fin it interesting to look at what these Mudcat subgroups might want to discuss.

I'm especially interested in the local Mudcat gathereings, as they occur in places where I may never go ... so, sometimes local news is interesting to folks from places that ain;t local to the news ...

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 10:00 PM

Clitnon, I thinck Jon wuss maken a funy.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 09:40 PM

I wish someone would change the title of THIS thread...

rong?

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 09:25 PM

John, I might be interested in buying that guitar - if you deliver. I think you'd enjoy a trip here to California.
Of course, it's OK to sell music stuff here - you're among friends. If you want to sell it in the auction, or in a thread, either way is OK. I think I'd title the thread "Fender Guitar for Sale - Hull, UK".
If you've already started a thread and need the title changed, let me know.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 08:36 PM

It seems to me that if you want to offer something for sale, the auction is the way to go.

On the other hand of you are looking for something like an instrument to buy, putting up a thread about it makes sense, and that means inviting advice about where to find it, including saying they might have something suitable themselves.

There are times when sticking the offer in a thread does make sense, for example when someone has tickets for a festval, or a room booked, and they've had to change their plans, and it might just solve someone else's problem.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 08:19 PM

Persomally,i think a few ads, a few bits of self-promotion, a few opinions about Iraq are great.It's when you get flooded you start to get fed-up. The Boat Band have got a gig in Sandbach Folk Club(George Hotel) on Tues March 11. I have got plenty of CD's for sale. I love Iraqi music.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 07:03 PM

I've always been glad of postings by Dick Greenhaus for Camsco Music and Sandy Paton for Folk Legacy and others who have new CDs out. I don't see a problem with the odd thread now and then about something musical for sale.

If it isn't musical, I feel it should be in the auction, but I don't mind a thread to let people know about it. We often have threads which remind people to look in the auction or to alert them to a new item in there. My take on the auction, based on what we've had in there, is that items do not have to be musical. The limitations of it, compared to eBay, is much smaller market, so less of a likelihood of the seller getting as much for it, thus less of a cut for the Mudcat, too, though some is better than nothing.:-)

kat

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 06:53 PM

Oops - no more advertising of gigs? No more advertising of "I've got a new CD for sale"? I don't think so.

I don't see a problem with putting a notice up that you're selling an instrument. I wouldn't like to see anyone advertise enough to look like a dealer and I wouldn't want to see dealers use Mudcat as nothing but a place to put up ads, but a one-off ad would NOT be a problem for me.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 06:29 PM

It is wrong and should not be allowed.

HOWEVER, You can put the item into the AUCTION at the top.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Mudlark
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 06:25 PM

I agree with Steve, I'd a lot rather buy an instrument sight unseen (and unlistened to) from a catter than from eBay. Altho, having said that I can't imagine buying a guitar, for instance, that I'd not listened to and played. I have a hard enough time making up my mind in the guitar shop.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 06:04 PM

Ya... cause it's such a huge trouble to click intoa thread, realsie that the sale is on the other side of the world from you, and click "Forum Home" to go right back where ya came from..

I will agree that a titch more info in the subect line might help...

Gibson Guitar for sale...

Or...

Or Guitar For Sale $400ish...

Especially as long as Mudcat is gonna have a character limit for subject lines...

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 05:46 PM

I have nothing against 'instrument sale' threads.

I do however have something against thread titles such as: GUITAR FOR SALE

At the very least, tell us which continent you live on...

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 05:33 PM

www.banjohangout.org has an items for sale section. They ask for a very small portion of the transaction price, I think two or two and a half per cent. I think that something similar here might work if it was only available to members. There have been some threads here on people having been ripped off on e-bay. Given that Mudcat is much more of a "community" than most other sites I think that there would be much less chance of getting burned here.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 05:19 PM

That'w what moderators are supposed to be for... to make sure that the place sorta stays on topic... Or to as Peg said, to move such threads to the auction site... I see no reason at all why mudcat shouldn't enforce profits from sales hosted here...

Sure... sell yer guitar here... or yer old tuner that yer not using anymore... or that CD collection "The Folk Years" that you were dumb enough to get from Time Life and now realise you were scammed...

But don't come here to sell the 3 extra hubcaps from a 1978 dogde dart you've had in yer garage since Jimmy-Joe-Jim-Bob traded them to ya for 2 cords of wood...

Just let the mods delete those threads... easy peasy...

:-)

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:56 PM

John,
I have no problem with someone offering a musical instrument for sale. I might if Elderly started a thread listing a Spring Sale. But i don't make the rules around here so I kept my opinion to myself.
M.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:56 PM

sorry peg, youre message wasnt there when i wrote this, i think maybe you are right but selling guitars to folk people is good but not too many.

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:53 PM

so, nobody ansers my thread! they all like to talk about iraq and stuff instead, , or maybe they think i was making truble and ignore it, selling a guitar is better than iraq.john

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Peg
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:50 PM

well, I think the fear may be that this sort of thing could get out of hand...i.e. people not all that interested in Mudcat but interested in selling stuff would flock here...
but we already have an auction site here so if there is an objection to posting threads with items for sale, then they can be moved to the austion thread and a portion donated to Mudcat...simple.

peg

Subject: RE: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:50 PM

anyway, when i bought my mandolin i staterd a thread, i think it was called "buying a mandolin" and somebody i think he was caled Big Dave offered to sell me his because he bought a new one, and it was cheap , i didnt buy it because i already bought mine at thet time, but i was happy that he offered to sell me his and it was cheap as well, anyway, i think if somebody said i want to but ...intrument, and somebody else ssays, you can buy his then that is ok.

Subject: Is this rong? not allowed etc
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 04:43 PM

I am talking about selling things at mudact, like instruments and things like that bacause somebody is selling a guitar and people are comlplaining and i dont know why, somebody made a thread to sell his gutar and Craig s said "this is mudcat site, not ebay", and banjomad, started a thread called advertising, and he said people should not asverise here, but this not his website anyway, i think if if people was selling not folk things , i give you ane xample, if i advertise my car here, that could be bad, because this is not car site, but i wonder if selling guitar here is ok, i dont want to sel my guitar anyway, i want to keep it, but i'm just asking, i am not trying to make trouble i am just asking, i know if everybody did it, it woyld be no god, vut they arent, so what you think about this.john