Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 08:03 PM

It's a heavily edited collation, so far as I can tell; not traditional. It's a pity that wasn't made clear on the liner notes.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 03:48 PM

Quite right about the tune, but the I text is no nearer the Bandogg's text than any of the other versions.

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: Anglo
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 02:18 PM

Well, if you'd looked in the tune appendix of Child you'd have found the tune. It's based on the I text which is admittedly hard to find (in Additions and Corrections).

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 06:07 AM

But none of them the Bandoggs version. There's no source given on the LP and I had a (admittedly very quick) look in Child and the short Bronson and can't see the version there either. They might have made it up of course. Perhaps someone recognises the version.

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: Susan of DT
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:17 PM

There are 3 versions of Hind Horn, Child #17 in the Digital Tradition. Search for #17 or Hind Horn.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 06:56 PM

A pleasure to listen to it again.

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: Roberto
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 05:23 PM

Thank you very much, MCP! Roberto

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 03:53 PM

Sorry missed out a late correction to 1st verse (the mysterious Young above):

Young Hind Horn to the King is gone
And he's fell in love with his daughter Jean


Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 03:38 PM

Here are the corrections as I hear them. (The replacement of ha' with hall is debatable; the ending of the word is very soft and it could be ha', it just that hall rhymes better with the definite befall of the previous line).

Mick

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Young
...
When this ring grows pale and wan
It's then that you'll know me love is gone
...
What news, what news old man doth befall
It's none save the wedding in the king's own hall
...
Oh it's when he came to the king's own gate
He's sought there a drink for the bridegroom's sake
...
Oh got ye this by the sea or the land?
Or took ye this from a dead man's hand?
...

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Tony Rose's Hind Horn
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 02:52 PM

I think it would be "What news, what news, old man," quotha, (said he)

And later, "Or took you this from a dead man's hand?"

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: Lyr Add: HIND HORN (from Tony Rose)
From: Roberto
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 02:29 PM

I'd like to get the text of Hind Horn as sung by Tony Rose, in Bandoggs. Here is what I can get. There is a phrase I can't get in the seventh stanza, and I am not of some words here and there. Please, somebody that knows this recording, could you help me to complete and correct this text? Thank you. Roberto

Young Hind Horn to the King he's gone
Hey lililo and a ho lo la
And he's fell in love with his daughter Jean
Hey down and a hey diddle downy

She gave to him a golden ring
With three bright diamonds set therein

When this ring grows pale and wan
It's there that you'll know that love is gone

Now the king has sent him o'er the sea
For seven long years in a far country

One day his ring grew pale and wan
And he knew that she'd loved another man

So he's left the sea for his own land
And it's there that he's met with a beggar man

What news, what news old man (...)
There's none save the wedding in the king's own ha'

Cast off, cast off your beggar's weeds
And I'll give you me good grey steed

Oh it's when he came to the king's own gate
He's sought them a drink to the bridegroom's sake

And the bride gave him a glass of wine
And when he's drunk he's dropped in the ring

Oh got ye this by the sea or the land?
Or you took (?)this from a dead man's hand?

I got it neither be sea nor land
For you gave it to me with your own hand

Oh, I'll cast off me gown of red
And along with thee I'll beg my bread

Oh, you need not leave your bridal gown
For I'll make you the lady of many's the town

Her own bridegroom had her first wed
But young Hind Horn had her first to bed