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Obit: Charles Bronson (Sept 2003)
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Sep 03 - 04:10 PM I found some information at the Internet Movie Database:
She had one daughter with Charles Bronson Diagnosed with breast cancer in 1984, thereupon undergoing a mastectomy. Both of her husbands, -Charles Bronson and 'David McCallum' , were stars of John Sturges's Great Escape, The (1963). Personal quotes "I'm in so many Charles Bronson films because no other actress will work with him." Whatever place I read about all of the children evidently neglected to parse out who came along when. I remember driving past the town where they lived in Vermont and thinking it sounded like they had a nice life. I hope, all things considered, that it was, and will help their family sort out things now. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: katlaughing Date: 03 Sep 03 - 03:46 PM SRS, it looks as though they had a "your, mine, and ours" kind of family. Here's a little bit more which might explain: The Bronsons (Bronson & Ireland) lived in a grand Bel Air mansion with seven children: two by his previous marriage, three by hers and two of their own. They also spent time in a colonial farmhouse on 260 acres in West Windsor, Vt. Ireland lost a breast to cancer in 1984. She became a spokesperson for the American Cancer Society and wrote a bestselling book, "Life Wish." She followed with "Life Lines," in which she told of her struggle to rescue her 27-year-old son, Jason McCallum Bronson, from drug addiction. He died of an overdose in 1989, and she died of cancer a year later. Bronson is survived by his wife, Kim, six children and two grandchildren. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Sep 03 - 03:33 PM Hmmm. Maybe the number of children from their marriage is a partial count--I thought they, but perhaps it is she, had something like six or eight children. Percarious position for a recent wife, no children to help cement her claim in contention with the children of another wife. With that kind of money and real estate, it's bound to be messy. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 03 Sep 03 - 03:27 PM The " Chaney" reference is am allusion to Bronson's character in " The Street Fighter " ( "Hard Times" in the States ). I saw that film five times in one week when it first came out. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: GUEST,Yul Date: 03 Sep 03 - 03:05 PM Stunning musician with a knowledgw of folk music to boggle the imagination. Or a film star. You decide and you ask yourself what is this to do with this site. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: fat B****rd Date: 03 Sep 03 - 03:04 PM So long, Chaney. RIP |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: katlaughing Date: 03 Sep 03 - 02:53 PM He had remarried, twice. Here are a few interesting bits: But privately, he was a devoted family man with four children. That family, divided by his marriage to a third wife, 41 years his junior, was said to have set aside its differences and reunited on his deathbed. He was described by Michael Winner, the British director with whom he made six films, as being "very shy" and "hating his voice". But Winner added that Bronson was "a great professional, knew exactly what he was doing, didn't mess about and was an interesting character beneath that". Over the past year, divisions had been reported within his family over his multi-million-dollar fortune and his property, which included a 33-room house in Bel Air and a large farm in Vermont. His third wife, the former actress Kim Weeks, who married him in December 1998 when he was 77 and she was 36, sought control of his estate. But opposition from the rest of his family was said to have been set aside as they struggled to decide whether or not to switch off his life-support machine... The key to his acting was "the repressed fury, the constant feeling that if you don't watch the screen every minute, you'll miss the eruption", said Winner. John Houston, who also directed Bronson, likened his no-nonsense style to "a hand grenade with the pin pulled". Bronson met Ireland, his second wife, while shooting The Great Escape in Germany. The British actress was married to David McCallum, his friend and co-star, and Bronson visited her in hospital when she suffered a miscarriage during shooting. Ireland said of him: "I saw in this man such unbelievable tenderness, such depth of feeling for my plight. "I had never come across anyone like Charlie before. He was savage and primitive. He said and did things no Englishman would ever do." The couple were inseparable, starring together in 11 films. He nursed her through a long illness before she died of breast cancer in 1990 at the age of 54. Despite his fame and reputation, Bronson insisted that he needed no one apart from his family and said his best friends were his children. Bronson never denied he had a temper but said he could "afford to be mild because I don't have the fears that most men have about masculinity or macho-ness".... Although generally happy with his oft-reprised action hero role, Bronson once said: "I have often thought how lovely it would be to lean on a mantelpiece with a cocktail in my hand and let the dialogue do the acting." |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Sep 03 - 10:00 AM I think 89 is too old, 81 sounds right. His wife (Jill Ireland) died several years ago, after a long struggle with cancer. I don't remember reading that he remarried. They had quite a staggering number of children together. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 03 Sep 03 - 09:17 AM Does this qualify as non-BS because of the harmonica playing (or playing character named Harmonica)in "Once upon a time in the west"? (Shown again on UK tv just this week) RtS |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: GUEST Date: 03 Sep 03 - 08:36 AM According to Michael Winner, Charles was really 89 snd not 81 as stated in the reports of his death. One of my favourites films in which he was so good was "Chatto's Land." By the way can I reccomend the book "Charles Bronson, Superstar" by Steve Whitney which is a detailed account of his life. RIP. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: X Date: 02 Sep 03 - 08:30 PM Why the Spanish? Dobranoc Mr. Buchinsky, Dziekuje. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: katlaughing Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:30 PM No, Lin, I haven't seen that one, but having just read a synopsis, I will check it out. It sounds really good. Another one of his that I really liked, it was *cold war thrilling* was Telefon. I really liked his characters' wry sense of humour, etc. and, as I said before, that gravelly voice, along with those piercing eyes, etc...hmmmm...maybe not just in my twenties!:-) Adios, darlin'.... katafan |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: open mike Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:14 PM oh and it is MUCHACHO is ma-cho short for this? (muchacha is a girl...) |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Cluin Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:10 PM Shhhhhhhhh.... someone in Hollywood will hear you and they try and do another stupid f___ing remake, probably with Ben Affleck or Matthew McConaughey. Adios, Mr Bronson. My favourite flick of his was Hard Times (1975). Good soundtrack too. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: GUEST,Tunesmith Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:56 PM I loved Bronson. Interestingly, some newspapers have picked up on the fact that of the seven actors who played the title rolls in "The Magnificent Seven" only Robert Vaughan is still with us. We lost three in the past year - Bronson, Dexter and Coburn. How are those poor Mexicans going to survive without our heroes? |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Lin in Kansas Date: 02 Sep 03 - 02:21 PM Kat-- Did you never see "From Noon 'Til Three"? I have to admit I didn't like many of his films, but this one was a very interesting Western starring Bronson and his wife, and is still one of my favorites. Yes, he was an original... Lin |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: katlaughing Date: 02 Sep 03 - 12:51 PM Even though they seem so violent to me, now, I always loved his movies and enjoyed his acting. I remembering being very enamoured of his looks and voice when I was in my twenties.:-) Sorry to hear of this loss. The Westerns channel just had a month-long tribute to him, playing all of his Western movies. It was fun to see them, again, though I never cared for his wife...or maybe it was the characters she portrayed. RIP, kat |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: alanabit Date: 02 Sep 03 - 12:21 PM The news report I read said he was eighty one and had been suffering from organ failure and possibly Alzheimer's for some time. It was not a bad innings and he had a successful life. I enjoyed his films too. It struck me, that like Yul Brynner, he was probably a very different man in private life to the hard men he portrayed in films. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Gypsy Date: 02 Sep 03 - 11:41 AM What a shame.....and a loss....... |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:52 AM Hm, Charles and Bob Hope in heaven, now THAT would be interesting.... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Amos Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:23 AM An original. Adios, muchacha! Ya done good. A |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 02 Sep 03 - 08:54 AM Too bad. Good actor. I remember his roles on many early 60s TV shows. |
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Subject: RE: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Jack the Sailor Date: 02 Sep 03 - 08:17 AM He was my favourite action movie actor for many years. RIP Mr. Majestic |
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Subject: Obit: Charles Bronson From: Tam the Bam (Nutter) Date: 02 Sep 03 - 07:36 AM I liked Charles Bronson, I liked his films, I sad that he is dead. I just like to wish his wife and children well for the future. Tom Hamilton |
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