BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:31 AM

I first saw a grebe while walking around a pond in Everglades National Park. The birdwatchers there are very friendly, because we all recognize one another.

A cheerful, plump, elderly woman approached us and said, "Did you see the grebe. He's the cutest little feller! Go back the way you came and turn left at the second alligator." (There were large alligators lying perpendicular to the pond's edge at intervals.)

We did, and we saw the grebe. It was indeed cute, but whether it was a feller or a gal, we shall never know.

Do not do what we did if you have children or a pet with you. Alligators and small animals do not mix.

The phrase "turn left at the second alligator" has now entered our family lexicon.

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Amos
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:23 AM

If the glib grebe were enlightened, he might be a hip glib grebe; if a Republican, a hip glib Shrub glebe, no?


A

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Pogo
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:07 AM

that that that that that that that that that that

hah...beat the smart arses to it!

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Pogo
Date: 22 May 04 - 12:06 AM

so if one was say noticeably nonchalant with an aquatic bird upon medieval farm land...it's being glib with a grebe upon a glebe...

now say that ten times fast {OP

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 May 04 - 11:45 PM

A Glebe! A Glebe! My queendom for a Glebe!

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 04 - 08:26 PM

Glebe: Soil or farm land. Now used primarily in poetry. Once, the cultivable land belonging to, and used for the support of, a parish church.
www.mises.org/easier/G.asp

Grebe:small compact-bodied almost completely aquatic bird that builds floating nests; similar to loons but smaller and with lobate rather than webbed feet
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn

Terrapin: any of various edible North American web-footed turtles living in fresh or brackish water
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn

The terrapin sings to the grebe
Upon the pastor's ancient glebe
An' makes mah sorry chest to heab....

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: open mike
Date: 21 May 04 - 05:57 PM

where does a terrapin fit in in the categories of turtle-like critter?
tortoises , turtles etc....some i believe have hinged carapaces, and
others, not. some are aquatic. others, not, but then this is a thread
about Glebes, is it not?

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 04 - 04:21 PM

Oh, they would, if they weren't driven into such mortuous doldrums by so many huge entities all the time.

A

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 May 04 - 03:48 PM

Slugs seldom do have much to say...

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 04 - 03:26 PM

Right -- large terrapins, when they are depressed, drag their asses around acting mortuous. Right? A mortuous sort of pall settled over the creatures in the Terrapin Display. Even the slugs had nothing to say...


A

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 May 04 - 03:15 PM

terrapin Amos, terrapins only.

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 04 - 08:57 AM

Well, I am touched, Little Hawk by this excellent parody, and the similarities to McGonagal's work are many and obvious.

However, this does NOT soften me up on the subject of McGonagle.

And...mortuous???? Sounds like the emotional state of a large turtle.


A

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 20 May 04 - 07:25 PM

I hope Amos appreciates this. The West Hamplines line is a bit too far, even for WMG, who was always OTT. But as LH says, the meter (or, for us over the pond, the metre) of WMG's poetry was wretched. It wasn't just WMG's weak rhymes, but the appalling scansion, and trying to cram all the extra words into the line. LH's facility with the genre is quite worrying, really.....

Kitty

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 01:20 PM

Then it is a masterpiece!

I read mostly lyrics. 14th to 17th century prefferred.

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:42 PM

They're supposed to be weak! And the meter is supposed to be absolutely wretched. I had to really struggle to do that, because I am normally quite good at it. Have you ever read much William McGonagall?

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:38 PM

your rhymes are weak, but the poem, overall, is quite good.

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:33 PM

The Grebe of Glebe*

While passing through the sunny expanses of Glebe
I happened to view the flight of a crested grebe
That arrested my vision, it enchanted my gaze
Which took me back in time to those most wondrous days

Of which you may have heard when British knighthood was in flower
And brave deeds were done for maidens sequestered in very dark towers
Imprisoned there, it seems, by vile and seditious soulless torturers
And men in black cowls, who were exceedingly mortuous

By nature consumed, they were steeped in the Black Arts
Which led then into vices not practiced much in these parts
Of late, though I suppose, one might find them sometimes
In certain depraved haunts like that filthy pub in West Hamplines

At which I read poetry once and was threatened with bodily harm
By a vile tatooted knave who menaced me with his bulging arms
For he (the brute churl) did not appreciate fine art
But instead was a slave to the bodily passions that give their part

To so many of the ills that beset our beloved British nation
And draw sighs from the widow's breast while stirring legal negotiations
In the courts and there consume the time and money
Of an honest man who would rather be at home spreading honey

On his toast and contemplating the beauteous works of Mother Nature
As revealed in the presence of simple natural creatures
Such as the innocent crested Grebe
That I had the great good fortune to witness on one fine day in Glebe!

*(this poem, written by mois, is an attempt to match the work and style of the great William McGonagall. I wrote it specially for Amos.)

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: JennyO
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:07 PM

One of our inner city suburbs in Sydney is called Glebe. Nice place with interesting cafes, such as "Badde Manors".

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 May 04 - 12:01 PM

Amos, you are wonderful!

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Amos
Date: 19 May 04 - 10:07 PM

Who the obsessed? Who the obsessor?
Which grebe the greater? Which, now, the lesser?
Grebes draw us on, chasing time's arrow!
Not to be taken
For the more common
Sparrow.

A

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: mack/misophist
Date: 19 May 04 - 09:52 PM

Boring??? This is absolutely riveting! Please go on, beardedbruce. Have you anything else to add? For example, how many glebes include wabes?

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:41 PM

I just want to show that NOTHING is too boring to generate a discussion on Mudcat. Gives me some hope that someone may actually read my poetry and give me real comments.

And isn't this a bit transparent? Just start a thread about nothing- Though I suspect there is a lot to say about that. I will not post until at least one other person has. I promise.

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: open mike
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:39 PM

i guess this is not a grebe (bird?) http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/Infocenter/i0030id.html
http://www.montereybay.com/creagrus/grebes.html

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:34 PM

I wonder how Fisher's Glebe compares to the better known Least Glebe which is located in Kent?

Nice try, Noddy. That idiot beardedbruce ruined it. He's obsessed.

Subject: RE: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: beardedbruce
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:19 PM

Glebe
Glebe (Lat. gleba) originally signified, in common law, any farm, estate, or parcel of land, and the word is so used in the Theodosian Code. But in ecclesiastical law it has become the technical term for land permanently assigned for the maintenance of the incumbent of a parish, and is the oldest form of parochial endowment. This use of the word is found in numerous medieval charters, of which Du Cange gives a few examples, and formerly no church could be consecrated unless thus endowed with a house and glebe. The fee-simple was held to be in abeyance, that is, without an owner in the eyes of the law, but the freehold belonged to the incumbent. It could be leased, sold, or exchanged, with the bishop's consent, and was sometimes allowed to be mortgaged for the purpose of repairing the parsonage or church. In England and Scotland, where glebe is held by the established Churches of those countries, there are now special laws regarding the leasing, sale, or exchange of such property, and all such transactions are subject to the approval of the land commissioners. In the Catholic Church, glebe, where it exists, is regarded as mensal property, and canon law regulates the conditions which govern its possession. The alienation of mensal property is now held by most legists to require the special permission of the pope, and even then only certain justifying causes are recognized, viz: (1) necessity, as when a church is overburdened with debt; (2) utility, or the opening for an advantageous exchange; (3) to redeem captives or feed the poor in time of famine; (4) convenience, as when the land is so situated that its produce cannot be gathered without great expense. Certain specified formalities have also to be complied with. (See PROPERTY, ECCLESIASTICAL.)

Subject: BS: New glebe discovered in Shropshire
From: GUEST,Noddy
Date: 19 May 04 - 05:06 PM

I find this quite exciting. It was thought that all the existing glebes in the UK were already known, but they have found a brand new one. It is going to be called Fisher's Glebe, after the fellow who stumbled upon it.