ADD: Land of the Old and Grey

Subject: RE: help with ABC please plus song added
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 99 - 01:37 PM

Hi, John and BAZ - MIDITXT seems to have problems producing concise ABC's from Noteworthy MIDI files. Alan says the Noteworthy MIDI files are just a bit peculiar. The ABC files that MIDITXT produces from Noteworthy MIDIs will sound about right, but you won't be able to generate proper notation from them. since it's just with Noteworthy files, it's probably better just to put up with it until Max can get us the capability to post MIDI files directly.
The MIDITXT output from Noteworthy MIDI files produces a perfect MIDI when decoded - it's just the ABC part that is affected by this quirk.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: help with ABC please plus song added
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Jan 99 - 11:04 PM

Baz, congratulations on trying so hard. Alan is probably the best person to help with the fine points of his program, but if you would care to email the original midi file, I'd be happy to have a look at it.

Regards
John
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Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: LAND OF THE OLD AND GREY
From: Kernow John
Date: 17 Jan 99 - 12:50 PM

I seem to be doing something wrong when I post tunes using Alan of Oz's Miditext.
The code below is from a Noteworthy Midi file. The Midi part translates back perfectly but the ABC doesn't. I have added the ABC file as it should look.
The value of the first rest has been added to the value of the first note. Ties across bars have been placed after the bar line which ABC interprets as 2 separate notes. And the value of the last note comes out as 15/2. ABC2Win comes up with errors when I try to draw the tune and Abc2mus will play the tune but wrongly ie with no rests and with tied notes played as separate notes.
What am I doing wrong please?

MIDI file: greyold.mid

Timebase: 192

Name: LAND OF THE OLD AND GREY
Text: Generated by NoteWorthy Composer
Key: G
TimeSig: 4/4 24 8
Start
0192 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0336 0 66 000 0048 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 64 110 1488 0 64 000 0432 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0336 0 66 000 0048 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 64 110 1488 0 64 000 0240 1 64 110 0336 0 64 000 0048 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 71 110 0528 0 71 000 0048 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 69 110 0094 0 69 000 0002 1 69 110 0256 0 69 000 0032 1 66 110 0336 0 66 000 0048 1 69 110 0720 0 69 000 0432 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 67 110 0160 0 67 000 0032 1 66 110 0528 0 66 000 0048 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 64 110 1488 0 64 000 0240 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 72 110 0336 0 72 000 0048 1 72 110 0160 0 72 000 0032 1 72 110 0160 0 72 000 0032 1 69 110 1488 0 69 000 0432 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 72 110 0160 0 72 000 0032 1 72 110 0336 0 72 000 0048 1 72 110 0160 0 72 000 0032 1 69 110 1104 0 69 000 0240 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0094 0 71 000 0002 1 71 110 0256 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0160 0 71 000 0032 1 71 110 0336 0 71 000 0048 1 69 110 0256 0 69 000 0032 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0160 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0256 0 69 000 0032 1 69 110 0094 0 69 000 0002 1 69 110 0094 0 69 000 0002 1 66 110 0624 0 66 000 0432 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0190 0 67 000 0002 1 67 110 0094 0 67 000 0002 1 66 110 0160 0 66 000 0032 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 66 110 0094 0 66 000 0002 1 64 110 0160 0 64 000 0032 1 62 110 0160 0 62 000 0032 1 64 110 1488 0 64 000
End

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ABC format:

X:1
T:Land of the Old and Grey
M:4/4
Q:1/4=120
K:G
E4E2G2|F4D2D2|E8|-E8|E4E4|-E6G2|F4G2F2|E8|
-E8|E2E6|-E6E2|B6B2|AA3F4|A8|-A4G2G2|F6D2|
E8|-E8|E2B6|-B4B2B2|c4c2c2|A8|-A8|A4B4|-B6B2|
c2c4c2|A8|-A6B2|BB3B2B2|B4A3G|A2A2A3A|AF7|
-F4GG2G|F2FFE2D2|E8|-E15/2||

ABC as it should look

X: 1
T:Land of the Old and Grey
M:4/4
L:1/4
C:Mike Donald
K:G
zEEG|F2DD|E4-|E4|z2EG|F2GF|E4-|E4|
zE2E|B3B|A/2A3/2F2|A4|z2GG|F3D|E4-|E4|
zBBB|c2cc|A4-|A4|z2BB|cc2c|A4-|A2zB|
B/B3/2BB|B2A3/2G/|AAA3/2A/|A/F/-F3|
z2G/GG/|FF/F/ED|E4-|E4

% Output from ABC2Win Version 2.1 h on 1/17/99

Here are some words to go with the tune

Land of the Old and Grey
By Mike Donald

I am a man of this land,
Thirty long years or more
I have worked the Mallerstang Fells,
Never asked for more.

Chorus
Young folks keep moving away,
Who can get them to stay?
There's money and there's jobs
in the wool towns of the valleys.
This is the land of the old and grey.

I have been a leadminer
Over the Swaledale way.
The clothes on your back, they never get dry
Freezing on a winter's day.

I have seen the colours of this land,
Thirty long years or more.
Many men drifting to the mines of Durham
To the Bradford factory floor.

Working on the Carlisle railway
Mending broken track.
There's snow on the fells and it's raining
in the valleys,
Muscles aching in my back.

With thanks
Baz