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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: JohnInKansas Date: 04 Mar 06 - 02:18 AM On the matter of who hits the ground first when a male and a female jump at the same time from an airplane (in flight): As a practical matter, and ignoring all fine points and trivial arguments of physics, it is quite obvious that in at least some percentage of cases the male is likely to hit the ground first. This is because the male is much more likely than the female to shout - as they leave the plane: "Watch how close I can get to the $#!@**# ground before I pull my $%#@^ ripcord!!!!" Ooops... John |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 04 Mar 06 - 12:18 AM Some clone gonna delete the above post by GUEST? |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: GUEST Date: 04 Mar 06 - 12:09 AM yea, Clinton can stick his head up his ass while whistling Arthur McBride. Great multitasker! |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Bobert Date: 03 Mar 06 - 11:50 PM Well, if memory serves me correctly the gravity thing came down to mass/weight but that ain't a male/female thing but a physics thing... I mean, think baout it... You drop a feather from a female goose and wingless male goose out of the airplane and it don't take Galellio to tell ya ' which one you don't want to be hit by... As fir men ans womenz an' what they do better??? Most men can spit further than womanz... Most men can BS while leanin' over the bed of a pickup truck longer than a womenz... Most men can come up wid more excuses on where they been than womenz... Most men can do more dumbass stuff than womenz... Most men can preach how they is against abortion than womenz... Most men will do any thing on a dare more than womenz which may have something to do with how many are incarcerated... Most men think they are great in bed... Most men think they know everything in the world... BUT, on the other hand... Most womenz think that men are complete jack asses, which has not yet been scientifically proven as yet... That's the extent of me and the Wes Ginny Slide Rule's observations as yet.... Spit... Scratch... Bobert (trained observer of dumbass stuff that men do) |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Cluin Date: 03 Mar 06 - 11:27 PM If I was in freefall with the ground rushing up at me, my sex would definitely change. "Screw foreplay! I'm in kind of a hurry, here." |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 09:40 PM Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, gotcha. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: JohnInKansas Date: 03 Mar 06 - 09:37 PM Peace - It's more like if you don't jump around enough when you're young your sex doesn't changes as expected. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 09:12 PM So if ya jump out of a plane your sex changes? |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: JohnInKansas Date: 03 Mar 06 - 09:08 PM The canon ball and the feather fall at the same rate in a perfect vacuum. You can't jump out of a flying airplane in a perfect vacuum, because an airplane can't fly in a perfect vacuum. A falling object, in the atmosphere, reaches a terminal velocity when the aerodynamic drag due to moving through the air is equal to the weight of the body. The aerodynamic drag is proportional to the frontal cross-sectional area presented in the forward direction of falling, for bodies of fairly similar shape. When you change the size of a body by direct scaling, the weight/mass varies as the cube of the dimensions, but the areas (frontal, surface, cross-sectional etc.) vary only as the square of the dimensions. If an otherwise identical body is scaled to be twice as large in all linear dimensions, the areas will be four times as large but the mass/weight will be eight times as large. Since there will be eight times as much "pulling down" force (the weight), and at the same speed there will be only four times as much "holding back" force (the air resistance) the "larger" object will continue to speed up after the original object reaches its terminal speed, if the two are released together. Since the aerodynamic drag varies with the square of the speed through the air, the terminal velocity of the "two times as big" object will be approximately 1.4 (the square root of 2) times the terminal velocity for the "original" object. To the extent that males and females are "similarly constructed," the observed tendency that males are usually larger than females is adequate to explain the generalization that the male will hit the ground first if a "typical male" and a "typical female" both exit an airplane that is in flight, and both fall freely to the ground. Again referring only to "averages," there are slight general trends that give "typical females" a slightly higher fraction of "adipose tissue" which tends to additionally cause them to have very slightly more "cross section" for a given weight than for a "typical male" of the same weight (Adipose, or "fatty" tissue is less dense than muscle tissue.) This also would tend to give the female a slightly slower terminal free-fall velocity in air than a male of the same weight, although the difference would be quite small. This difference appears, from personal observation, to be rapidly disappearing, as the kids - of both sexes - that I see around the schoolyards seem to be mostly blubber. (That may be a local phenomenon, but reports are it's fairly general.) The observation immediately preceding may render this entire thread completely academic at some future time. Since adipose tissue produces and secretes "female" hormones, including estrogen, children of either sex who are obese before or at the time of puberty tend to be "feminized" in their development. The development of "male" secondary sexual characteristics is inhibited, so in a few years at present rate all our little boys and little girls may be "little girlies" (in outward appearance, at least). John |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 03 Mar 06 - 09:06 PM Men are better at lighting farts. Women are better at being smart enough not to light farts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:21 PM Nobody knows the trouble he's gonna see, nobody knows the sorrow . . . It doens't scan, but it's true. LOLOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:18 PM THAT'S IT! Out of the mouths of babes and Canucks. Of course, THE EARTH SUCKS! Naturally men would be more affected.....I'd better go now, hadn't I? Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:12 PM Tripod is close to being a vacuum. It sucks for sure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: LilyFestre Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:08 PM Awww Nuts....damn Tripod sites anyway! Now I guess you'll NEVER know!!!!! Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: LilyFestre Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:08 PM Here's Your Answer |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 08:02 PM OK. I am convinced. BUT, inside a vacuum cleaner, who would fall faster? Huh? Huh? G'head . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: greg stephens Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:56 PM Don T: my point exactly. Men are aerodynamically more efficient, and fall through the air faster. Likewise men move more quickly through towns while shopping, in contrast to women's progress, which may be scarcely perceptible in these circumstances. Possibly this is due to women's atoms being stickier than men's (a theory postulated by Lucretius in "De Rerum Naturae"). |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:43 PM I can't pretend to being an expert on gravity, but was taught at school that tha cannonball and the feather would fall at exactly the same rate in a total vaccuum. Surely the difference is in air resistance to the falling bodies, and would relate to aerodynamic efficiency of different masses and shapes. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: greg stephens Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:32 PM Peace: just think about the stone and the feather. The difference is big, and the reason is obvious. It is just the same difference that makes the men fall faster than the women. But the difference between men and women is not so big. In fact, the difference between men and women is very small. But, as the Frenchman said, VIVE LA DIFFERENCE! |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: LilyFestre Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:30 PM Visions that come to mind...... Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:25 PM I am NOT gonna try it. Jump from a friggin' plane just to see if I hit the ground faster than the dog (reminds me of a good joke)? NO WAY. It would give a few folks around these parts too much to chuckle about. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: LilyFestre Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:25 PM Newton's Second Law |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:21 PM But density would not affect Newton's Second Law, would it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: greg stephens Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:20 PM The thing about weights being dropped from a height is that heavy weights dont actually fall at the same speed as light ones, whatever stories you here about Galileo and cannonballs of the Leaning Tower of Pisa. In the case of human bodies, the air friction drag increases with the surface area(roughly), whereas the gravitational force downwards increases proportionally with the weight. The bigger you are, the greater is the ratio of the weight to the surface area. Accordingly, as women are on average smaller than men, their terminal velocity is on average lower. The effect is very very small with a pair of different size cannonballs, slightly larger with a big man and a small woman, but much more noticable with a stone and a feather, or a dog and a mouse. Try it and see. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Elmer Fudd Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:20 PM Men have better aim when peeing standing up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: LilyFestre Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:17 PM LMAO..er...uh...what I mean is...very interesting theory John. *chuckling under my breath* Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: JohnInKansas Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:16 PM Free fall speed is a matter of ballistic coefficient. Skydivers occasionally note difficulty keeping a "formation" together when the divers are of mixed sex. The men tend to fall slightly faster than the women. The women, for obvious reasons, point out that it's because the men are "denser." (But only on average.) John |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: LilyFestre Date: 03 Mar 06 - 07:10 PM I'm wondering how they conducting that story... Help Wanted: 10 men and 10 women to jump from an airplane high in the sky. Those who go SPLAT first will be paid substantially more. Please apply at 1-800-KER-SPLAT |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:41 PM Greg, sorry to sound dismissive. I was wondering where Newton's Second Law fit what you said. I don't doubt you got that info somewhere. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Big Al Whittle Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:39 PM johninkansas is that name or address? no idea what people do better, is there an answer? |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:39 PM How so? Serious question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: greg stephens Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:38 PM It nay not make sense but it does happen to be true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Peace Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:37 PM "on average the men hit the ground first." That doesn't make sense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: greg stephens Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:35 PM Women are better at wondering about towns all day looking in shops; I believe this has been scientifically proven. Also, if you drop men and women out of planes without parachutes, on average the men hit the ground first. Otherwise, everyone's pretty similar. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: JohnInKansas Date: 03 Mar 06 - 06:29 PM artbrooks - Several reports can be found on the web that in at least a few instances men have successfully breast fed their children. Documentation of the specific cases cited is open to some question, since the locations and circumstances are only vaguely reported; however comment, from apparently competent endocrinologists, appear to accept the possibility. Maybe you're just not trying hard enough. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: artbrooks Date: 03 Mar 06 - 05:37 PM There are individual differences but, as far as I know, the only two things almost all women do better than all men is (1) grow babies and (2) breastfeed. I expect you can come up with the male equivalents. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Bill D Date: 03 Mar 06 - 01:32 PM There is LOTS of good, well researched information out there, with many 'real' differences discussed.....why do you want this group to just speculate? |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Cluin Date: 03 Mar 06 - 01:31 PM Men are better at writing their name in the snow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: Clinton Hammond Date: 03 Mar 06 - 01:26 PM "Women are better are at multi-tasking" I multi-task better than 98% of people I know... men or women... So it's not sexist.. it's just fullblop.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: gnu Date: 03 Mar 06 - 01:24 PM Women have better selective memories... if I recall correctly. |
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Subject: BS: things men/ women do better and why From: GUEST,brat face Date: 03 Mar 06 - 01:20 PM Ok, we have had a lot of " are men all / are women all.. ", and , to be honest, I was surprised that so many mudcatters instantly took offence and didn't come up with any great scientific facts about why men are XXX and why were are YYY. So , here, seriously (!); does anybody have any AMAZING facts about the scientifically proven differences between "us & them "!? E.G. Women are better are at multi-tasking 'cos the left and right sides of their brains are more closely connected ( I am happy to stand corrected on that one, I am just trying to give an example !) And hopefully we can have a good sicussion without lots of folk crying "SEXIST"! |