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JohnInKansas 01 Aug 07 - 01:17 PM
Ebbie 01 Aug 07 - 01:19 PM
KB in Iowa 01 Aug 07 - 01:23 PM
GUEST,Concerned 01 Aug 07 - 01:28 PM
Little Hawk 01 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM
Bill D 01 Aug 07 - 01:33 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:17 PM

Product information for previous versions of Microsoft Office and related products.

Existence of Microsoft Word 2003 is no secret. The location of the information that it exists is privy information. You'll have to die if you tell anyone how you found out.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:19 PM

Good lord.

#1: MS questions anything that is not in its lexicon of common words.
Thus, Lucifer is not commonly used, plus a 'lucifer' is an old slang term for a match.
#2: 'god' is not only a word for a supreme being but is also commonly used in a less ritualistic sense.
#3: 'ball' and 'flag' are in common use. 'seeing eye' is not. For instnace, try using the term in conversation: the seeing eye. Huh? What else is an eye supposed to do? Therefore, MS concludes that Seeing Eye is either a trademarked phrase or is some other form of usage.


My question remains: Is there an MS 2003? I don't think so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:23 PM

This is starting to make me uneasy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: GUEST,Concerned
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:28 PM

Bill Gates' startup money was from IBM. IBM began as a way to do human tracking. The tattoos in Auschwitz were IBM tracking numbers.

Hitler's Germany was just a turd on the otherwise smooth road of eugenics. The elite of the world were looking for a way to depopulate the mud races, and eugenics was the answer. It began in Britain, was developed in the US (Hitler thanked the US eugenicists in Mein Kampf), then it got ugly in Nazi Germany. But IBM came out of the mess okay, and they funded Gates and today the Gates Foundation is poisoning Africa with vaccines.

In the west, the current depopulation movement is proceeding under the guise of "environmentalism." The return to mother earth (pagan sacrifice) and all that. Do the environmental catchphrases default to capital? Probably do, since the targeted group in the environmental brainwashing now is kids. Show them "Environment" long enough and they'll come to think it's more important that "god."


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:30 PM

Wow. I just tried it again and I found out something interesting. If you write "a seeing eye" (being non-specific about which eye you are referring to) then the program take no notice. If, however, you refer to the seeing eye......the program underlines seeing eye in a green squiggly line. You right click it, and you are prompted to one and only one choice: capitalize it to read Seeing Eye.

By the way, this prompt only happens after you hit the Return key, initiating a paragraph break.

That does indicate something. Something different from any other such pair of words. You figure out what.

Another example:

The bouncing ball is here.

The Seeing Eye is here.

The running dog is here.



Only the Seeing Eye (after a paragraph break) brings up a response from the program indicating it should be capitalized. And it shouldn't. Unless it is a code of some kind....or the world's biggest coincidence.

Look on the back of your dollar bill. There you will see the Seeing Eye. It's a powerful Masonic symbol.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:33 PM

In Mason We Trust?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:34 PM

LH

The words that Word "corrects" to init caps probably are in the spellcheck dictionary with caps. Ones that it ignores the caps for probably are not in the dictionary, or may be in the dictionary both ways making it ambiguous/optional.

You can turn off automatic spell check and eliminate the problem, but most people find it "mostly harmless." Spellcheck generally "suggests" corrections, while AutoCorrect/AutoReplace puts them in immediately. (Ctl-Z before you continue typing will back out an AutoCorrect change.)

More subtly, if a word appears in the dictionary, and hence gets capitalization other than what you want, the "correct procedure" is to enter the word to which spellcheck changes your typing in the AutoCorrect function (Replace as you type), and tell it to change it back to what you typed. (AutoCorrect/AutoReplace "executes" after Spellcheck.)

Spell check is mostly controlled in Tools|Options, Spelling and Grammar tab. AutoReplace is at Tools|AutoCorrect Options.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:45 PM

Just keep trying it Ebbie. Try any such pair of words, whether they are in common usage or not...whether they even make any sense or not. The program will ONLY prompt you to capitalize "Seeing Eye" after you do a carriage return. It underlines it green and prompts you to change "seeing eye" to "Seeing Eye".

Why?

Here's what I got:

The bouncing ball is here.

The Seeing Eye is here.

The running dog is here.

The wallowing whale is here.

The Seeing Eye is here.

The seeing orb is here.

The seeing penguin is here.

The seeing rifle is here.

The seeing eggbeater is here.

The Seeing Eye is here.





Go ahead now, Ebbie. Rationalize your way around it somehow. Realize that every mind normally, usually believes exactly what it already wants to believe and has already decided to believe regardless of the evidence put before it, and you will be on your way to considering alternative possibilities, and questioning previous assumptions.

I am very intrigued by this "seeing eye" business. I am less concerned about the word "god", because it can be used in many contexts, as you pointed out. It can mean a variety of different gods.

There is no normal, mundane reason why a program should demand capitalization of a phrase such as "the seeing eye".

There are possible mystical reasons for it, however, of a highly symbolic nature, connected with Freemasonry at the highest levels. That's why it's on the dollar bill. That's why it's on the Great Seal. It's a symbol of power. It's not an accident. These things are meant to be seen by those who are trained to see them and recognize them, they are not meant for the general public, except in a subliminal sense. They don't happen by accident.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: MMario
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:46 PM

I think KH is right and the explanation John gave is nothing but a coverup the government WANTS us to believe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 01:54 PM

Yes, I understand how it works, John, and you can ignore the prompt, of course.

My question is, why is the prompt there in the first place? Like I say, is it the world's biggest coincidence? ;-)

How many people in the general public study the Masonic symbols? How many people give them any importance? Almost no one. I have studied them to some extent. That's why I think this is significant.

The USA was founded by a group of Masons. High level Masons. They were an extension of the Masons in England before them, and they remained connected to those people afterward. Those people were and are the controlling elite in western civilization, and symbols are very important in that order. They are seen to symbolize and to have great power. It's not kid stuff. It's not fun and games.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:07 PM

Lucifer was mentioned up-thread and sort of dropped. MS does want it capitalized but I expect it because it is a proper name (alluded to by LH).

MS treats devil and god the same way, either can be capitalized or not, MS doesn't seem to care.

The whole 'Seeing Eye' thing is kind of weird but I don't know that it is a harbinger of the end times.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:09 PM

I tried it and it does work the way the YouTube thingy says. Yeah, I think there is a Word 2003. Mine is listed as Word 2002, and it does the same thing.

Does this mean that Microsoft is a Satanic conspiracy? Well, some folks might think so when their software acts up. However, there are a couple of people who live in the same apartment building that I live in who work for Microsoft and they seem to be very nice folks

"But," he said in a hoarse whisper, "you never really know, do you?"

I might point out that Lucifer is, indeed, a proper name. God, on the other hand is not. The word "god" in the Judeo-Christian religions is assumed to be a proper name, but in the realm of mythology (and like it or not, much of the details of the Judeo-Christian story does fall under the heading of mythology) the word "god" generally refers to a humanoid creature with super-powers. Zeus was the real biggy in days of yore. Then there was Aphrodite (note:   a female! Very much a female!), Hermes, Neptune, Athena, Ares—or among the Romans, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, etc., etc., a whole battalion of super-beings. Pan was a demi-god, along with a host of others

So "god" refers to a general class of beings. It is not a proper name.

Now, "seeing eye," I don't know what that's all about unless one has a great deal of respect (and well deserved, I might add) for guide dogs for the visually impared.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:36 PM

I have no concern about how the program treats the word "god" or the word "Lucifer". All proper names get capitalized, so why not Lucifer? No reason why the word "god" necessarily has to be capitalized either...it would depend upon the context.

But the Seeing Eye? Well, that's another matter altogether.

Do I think it's a harbinger of the End Times? ;-) No. I don't see why I would think that. I don't necessarily believe there even IS an End Times.

I think it indicates a deliberate connection to Masonic symbols and ritual though, and that is significant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:42 PM

LH, I see that you capitalized End Times. Any particular reason for this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:50 PM

"Realize that every mind normally, usually believes exactly what it already wants to believe and has already decided to believe regardless of the evidence put before it, and you will be on your way to considering alternative possibilities, and questioning previous assumptions." Little Hawk

Yes, Little Hawk. Don't you also see that you exhibit the same phenomenon? I don't quite buy the sequential thought that you/we are on the "way to considering alternative possibilities, and questioning previous assumptions". I see very little sign of that. We/You are all quite predictable.

As for 'seeing eye', that is quite, quite different from 'all-seeing eye', innit?

And for free masonry and its impacts on modern history, if we haven't worried about it for, lo, these many years what has changed? Are we really as a people that fearful of today?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 02:56 PM

Ebbie, I have read LH (on more than one occasion) admit that he is just as subject to what he describes as is anyone else, he just doesn't insert a disclaimer every time.

As for Masonry and the threat it poses, my grandpa was a Mason and he was a bit odd.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:10 PM

They are not all odd. One of my good friends is quite skilled. They say that his rock walls all bear his distinctive print.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: bobad
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:12 PM

The All Seeing Eye


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:14 PM

"They say that his rock walls all bear his distinctive print."

Could this be his way of sending secret messages, carved in concrete as it were?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: MMario
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:23 PM

it's actually the plants growing on the walls that contain the code. "moss code"


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:32 PM

Damn! That is one ugly eye.

MMario, I'm glad to finally learn the name. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:35 PM

I capitalized End Times, KB, because I wanted to. ;-) It looked more noticeable that way. And because it refers to a BIG hypothetical event. So are we arguing for the fun of it? Or just for the usual reasons?

I'm not all that fearful, Ebbie. I'm just curious. I like to know about things. I'm pretty sure I'll die of natural causes long before I become important enough for the $ySStem to decide I need to be eliminated. ;-) If not, well...I've died before. I'll get over it soon enough.

As KB kindly pointed out, yes, I have said numerious times that I am just as wedded to my usual impression as most people. I am only a bit unusual in that I know it, I don't forget it, and I publicly admit to it. (this is something you won't find any politicians doing) Accordingly, I always keep it in mind that I might be wrong in my fondest assumptions...and that keeps me curious, and thirsty to know more.

As to "Could this be his way of sending secret messages"

Could be, KB. ;-) My dog's way is by peeing on any convenient standing structure, although his messages are really not all that secret...he is quite open about his imperial ambitions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:36 PM

"So are we arguing for the fun of it? Or just for the usual reasons?"

I thought that was the ususal reason.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:46 PM

Say, check this out. I got curious about "all-seeing eye" or "all seeing eye".

Here's what MS Word wants me to do:

The Seeing Eye is here.

The all-seeing eye is here.

The Seeing Eye is here.

The all Seeing Eye is here.


It ignores the word "all". It ignores "all-seeing". It only calls for capitalization of the 2 words "Seeing Eye".


Whoever set the code set it to take effect in that fashion only.

What I have heard about the Masons suggests to me that there is a large rank and file membership who are ordinary people, not involved in anything terribly esoteric or hidden...and there is a higher echelon who are involved in such hidden things and who wield great power. It's the decisions of the higher echelon, just as in a government or an armed forces, that primarily interest me, not the decisions of the rank and file.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 03:54 PM

But my Grandpa was a bit odd. He would always sing "The Boar's Head in Hand Bear I" when he brought out the Christmas feast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 04:22 PM

"Here's looking at you, kid."
            —Rick to Ilsa in Casablanca

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 05:54 PM

"I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours,"
I said that.

- Bob Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 07:07 PM

Boy, this just gets weirder. I noticed that if you say "the seeing eye", then MS Word wants it capitalized...but if you say "a seeing eye", then they don't care.

One exception, however: If you say "A seeing eye rules." then MS Word wants the capitals!

Here are more examples of what the program wants you to do:

The Seeing Eye rules everything.

A Seeing Eye rules.

There is the Seeing Eye.

There is a seeing eye.

A seeing eye watches.

A seeing eye is blue.

A Seeing Eye rules.


So the only case I've found in which "a" seeing eye calls for caps is when it's "a Seeing Eye rules".


So the caps code for "Seeing Eye" is not tied to the phrase "seeing eye". It is tied to either "the---seeing eye" or "a seeing eye rules".

That's what I have found so far.

That's a pretty specific code, isn't it? It obviously cannot be because "Seeing Eye" is a trademark or anything else like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: GUEST,Concerned
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 07:48 PM

Albert Pike (arguably the most interesting public person in American public life) called the run-of-th-mill Masons "porch masons." They do the good deeds and never know what they're a part of.

The All-seeing eye is woven all through the Homeland Security crapola. It's purpose seems to be to inspire an awareness of being watched. My personal theory is that when the culling of humanity begins (by the Bush/Windsor-Saxe-Coberg/Rothschild/Rockefeller/Warburg/Dupont/Clinton, etc cabal), well...we've been warned. And since we've PARTICIPATED in our own deaths by allowing these Luciferian monsters to do the deed, the sacrifice will be doubly pleasing to Lucifer. Who is watching. Lucifer is the light, and the eye symbol comes from ancient Egyptian sun worshipping. These freaks go WAY back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Mr Happy
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 08:21 PM

This Seeing Eye

That Seeing Eye

Who쳌fs Seeing Eye?

The next Seeing Eye

A big red seeing eye

Is this anyone쳌fs seeing eye?

Which Seeing Eye

What Seeing Eye

Where쳌fs my seeing eye?

A bag of seeing eyes, please.

Any seeing eyes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Aug 07 - 08:35 PM

Don't forget the Queen of England and King Juan Carlos- they too are in the cabal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 12:45 AM

Well, if there was such a cabal, it would probably be impossible to attain the position of being a crowned royal anywhere in Europe if you were not part of it, right?

So it just depends whether there is or not. I don't think anyone here is in a position to categorically deny or confirm that there is. We just have opinions, that's all. And our opinions are based on very little knowledge, a lot of conjecture, and gut feelings of one sort or another.

My opinion is...I don't know. I just wonder.

I've read different stuff about it, but that doesn't prove anything, because that was all just someone else's opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: robomatic
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 01:45 AM

I think MSoft Word has some religious biases. The one I inadvertently triggered was when I used the term cathodic protection in a technical spec.

possibly guest, concerned could look into this and get back to us.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: GUEST,Concerned
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 03:03 AM

As I wind down from a long day, I'll say this...

The all seeing eye is not just on the dollar bill, it is on America's CBS television logo, the eye on the tail feather of the NBC peacock, dozens of logos that can be turned up with a web search.

On the dollar bill, the eye is the capstone of the pyramid. Pyramid = Egypt, the eye is the eye of Amon Ra, the sun god, as I recall. The ancient egyptians were sun worshippers.

This gets back into the time of the mystery religions, when the sun, earth and moon were worshipped. Human sacrifice was practiced to appease the earth mother. Sacrifice was done in Europe, Meso America, Middle East, etc. Pervasive.

In the middle east, the temple of Solomon had 2 pillars. Hence, the obsession with the number 11, shaped like the twin pillars of Solomon, the sorcerer of the old testament. Hence the fascination with withcraft. The twin towers in NYC were a giant # 11 on the skyline, and they were brought down with much sacrifice of life, pleasing to Lucifer.

Since then, our new surveilance organizations in the US have been making use of the all seeing eye to haunt us, terrorize us. And you ARE being watched, by Microsoft. They keep telling you with the new upgrades that there are more spy features in place, but you don't care. The 15,000 FBI citizen operatives will be made redundant in a few years because we're all spying on ourselves...our internet data is being fed straight to the US govt. The Nazis and IBM would be very pleased with the way we're cutting our own throats.

But getting back to the mystery religions, American society has been utterly degraded. Homosexuality is some kind of twisted virtue now, families are in shambles, illegitimacy is 90% among blacks and 50% among whites, schools are admittedly dummbing down and drugging kids, and those kids are being taught that their parents are killing the environment. The environment's the big thing now. It's beling elevated to religion status at the end of the destruction of America. Americans will return to the bullshit mystery religions now (the magical crap on television has replaced the ministers), so now kids will be taught to value plant life over human life, and the culling of the population will be eaier than any of you thought possible. Kids will be taught ot nark on you, and they'll be told that your death is good for the planet.

Somehow this all relates to the seeing eye and the spy network, and if I weren't tired I'd put it in cogent form. Screw you if you think it's nuts. The hodge podge os semi-magical thinking that passes for your philosophies is even nuttier that what I just described.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 11:31 AM

Some interesting stuff there. Do you see that one holy trinity (Sun, Earth, and Moon...which might be termed Father, Mother, and Child) eventually morphed into another trinity, the Christian one: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

What makes one better than the other?

I see nothing particularly wrong with a cosmology that uses the sun, the Earth, and the moon to represent divinity. They are real things, and they make powerful symbols.

I've always felt that the Christian Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was more than a little odd, because it leaves out the feminine component (unless the Holy Spirit is feminine). Many ancient trinitys include the feminine component, as I think they should.

It's natural that God should be seen as the sun by a society, because the sun gives forth the light and energy which makes life possible on this planet, therefore it's the sustaining principle in physical reality behind all life existing here. It's natural that the Earth should be seen as the Mother, since we are all physically born out of the Earth and sustained by the bounty of the Earth.

As to the Moon, well, that's a bit more subtle...you could have many interpretations about the part the moon plays. The moon moves the tides, and it has subtle effects on all living things here, as evidenced in monthly patterns, menstrual cycles, etc.

So why is such a cosmology necessarily bad...in itself? I don't think it is.

What's bad is if the people in charge of it turn a cosmology toward an oppressive purpose.

As to your thoughts on the deterioration of American society...I'd agree with most of that.

Interesting stuff about the all seeing eye showing up in industry logos. I'll do that search and see what I can find.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 02:45 PM

Penn Gillette, of the comedy team Penn and Teller, used to write a humor column in one of the computer magazines a few years back. In one article, he described how someone was cruising through the various available fonts and symbols that Word offers and noticed in the list of wingdings what he considered a significant and disturbing juxtaposition of a skull-and-crossbones and a Star of David—two separate wingdings. This person concluded that The Evil Minions at Microsoft had hidden an anti-Semitic message saying "Kill all Jews!"

Penn Gillette commented that "There are people in this world who could sift through the debris after an explosion in a Scrabble tile factory and find something to be offended at!"

Sometimes a cigar is only a cigar.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 03:05 PM

"(by the Bush/Windsor-Saxe Coberg/Rothschild/Rockefeller/Warburg/Dupont/Clinton, etc cabal)"

"Screw you if you think it's nuts."

I'm screwed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 06:48 PM

Yes, it is true, Don, that anyone who has any particular paranoid agenda in mind can usually (no, let's make that always) find what they think is damning evidence supporting it. That's because they're looking through a filter, their beliefs, and what they see is always shaped and modified by that filter. So if you're looking around for antisemitism...you'll find it. If you're looking for racism...you'll find it. If you're looking for communism...you'll find it. If you're looking for terrorism...you'll find it. If you're looking for corporate conspiracies, you'll find them.

That could mean they are really there...or it could mean nothing of the sort. Depends on how well your "filters" work, and on various other factors.

Great straight line, Ebbie! ;-) Oh, what a temptation to respond with some wisecrack...


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Don Firth
Date: 02 Aug 07 - 07:42 PM

Yes, indeed. And what lends great satifaction to those who are addicted to conspiracy theories is that there are, indeed, anti-Semites, racists, communists, terrorists, and corporate conspirators out there in the real world.

The discovery of some group of businessment who get together from time to time to have lunch and a few drinks and compare notes (not unlike the Rotary Club or the Kiwanis) sends these folks into paroxisms of delight over having discovered incontrovertible evidence for their paranoid delusions. Few things make a paranoiac happier than to find some minuscule bit of evidence that, if multiplied a hundred-fold, can allow them to feel that there's a small chance that they may not be actually completely wrong, and these businessmen really do want to take over the world. But when you consider the sheer number of such groups, all competing to take over, not the world, but the market, the chances of any one group being more than modestly dominant for any length of time are all but non-existent.

The trick is to be sufficiently aware of one's own predilictions and prejudices that one is in the habit of automatically viewing one's own urge to jump to a conclusion with extreme suspicion. And to view the leapt-upon conclusions of others with the same suspicion.

Solid evidence is what is essential. Not just some cut-and-paste rant from a blog that agree's with one's own prejudices.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Mr Happy
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 05:13 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_seeing_eye


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: GUEST,Concerned
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 02:01 PM

Well, the purpose of human organization is to increase strength and provide security. The security is afforded to the group.

County governments are going to make sure of one thing first--that the members of the governments receive their salaries. So they tax, and they increase taxes as the government grows.

Why should it be any different with any other organization? Masons, Rosicrucians, etc.? They formed for security, and then they expanded to provide increased security and strength.

I have no problem with any groups unless they want to keep their dealings secret. Then I have to suspect them. The Masons and other 'secret' groups deserve the suspicion that's heaped on them. They bring it on themselves.

As far as lumping groups, movements and 'conspiracies' together, I'm sure a lot of them are bogus. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion springs to mind. Fascinating reading, but so unprovable that you can't really use it to back up any arguments.

But then there are other things--for years the Bilderberg Group denied its existence, but that's changed the past couple of years. This year the front page of the Dallas paper had a big article about Gov. Rick Perry attending a Bilderberg meeting. Quoted him talking about it himself. Yet people still deny it exists.

It seems the evening news and the Sci-Fi channel have done much to make Americans disbelieve the evidence right in front of them. The Sci-fi channel is owned by Prince Phillip, by the way, and the programming seems to be a continuous stream of contempt for humans (much like Phillip's view of people).

But anyway, there are lots of bread crumbs being left for us by the people in charge of certain groups. The link below goes to some fascinating information. I think these guys plan to make this into a nine-part series. Wouldn't be surprised if part or all of this has made it to YouTube by now:

http://www.wingtv.net/riddlesinstone.html

Also, an interesting search is 'ley lines' or 'ley-lines' + masonic, for information about how they incorporate occultic power grids into their building. And then there's the stupefying amount of evidence of occultic symbolism in the new Israeli Supreme Court building, paid for by the Rotschilds:

http://www.planetquo.com/Illuminati-Design-And-Symbolism-In-The-Israeli-Supreme-Court-Building

You build something like that, and people are going to wonder.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 02:33 PM

It can't happen here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 02:33 PM

Your link, Concerned Guest, leads to things that even you could not possibly swallow.

The Wizard of Oz? Mickey de Vinko, a Satanist and a husband of Judy Garland? hahhahahahhahaha


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 03:31 PM

The Sci-Fi Channel is owned by Prince Philip?

Quelle surprise!!
The Sci-Fi Channel was launched on September 24, 1992 as a sister cable channel to USA Network by then-owners Paramount Pictures (which was later acquired by Viacom in 1994) and MCA (then part of Japanese electronic giant Matsushita), the owner of Universal Studios, each with a 50% stake in the venture.

The channel was seen as a natural fit with classic film and television series that both studios had in their vaults, including Rod Serling's Night Gallery (from Universal TV) and Paramount's Star Trek and classic Universal horror films such as Dracula and Frankenstein. Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry and author Isaac Asimov were among those on the advisory board.

In 1997, Seagram, which bought MCA in 1995, purchased Viacom's interest in USA and Sci-Fi, and sold the networks to Barry Diller in 1998 to form USA Networks, Inc. Diller later sold USA's non-shopping (film and TV) assets, including Sci-Fi, to Universal's then-parent Vivendi Universal in 2002. Vivendi's film, television, and cable TV assets were then merged with General Electric's NBC to form NBC Universal in 2004.
Now, if you're referring to the British Sci-Fi Channel, note the following:
The British Sci-Fi Channel (Sci-Fi UK) is a United Kingdom satellite television channel service specialising in science fiction, fantasy and horror shows and movies. The channel launched in 1995 as a British sister channel to the US Sci-Fi Channel, with a similar programming line-up. Sci-Fi UK currently operates as a channel service of NBC Universal Global Networks, a division of NBC Universal.
GUEST,Carnsarned, you are so full of it!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 04:20 PM

Thet wor me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Aug 07 - 10:06 PM

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Mr Happy
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 06:21 AM

YYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 01:38 PM

X-Files?


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: Jim Lad
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 02:05 PM

Mudcat?

Go on then 99....


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Subject: RE: BS: Spy Network in U.S.
From: pdq
Date: 05 Aug 07 - 02:08 PM

100


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