BS: Tap Water vs. Bottled Water

Subject: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:26 PM

Haven't seen this programe on BBC about bottled water yet, but the comment in the review in RT made me pull a wry face: "the absurdity of a dozen branded varieties of something that comes out of the tap."

Well firstly, of course water *also* comes out of a tap, but as a seasoned spring drinker I can reveal that that's not actually where it really comes from!

I must confess I'm a bottled water drinker, mainly because I actually like to drink water, and because I like water I don't like that stale chemicalised reclaimed liquid that passes for 'water' that you get from the tap.

Some people will think I'm nuts or that I've been brainwashed by the magic powers of advertising, but I suspect that those people who scoff, don't actually *like* drinking plain water very often and instead opt for some of the zillions of other beverages sold us by those same magic brainwashing adverts.

As for the waste issue, yes I agree - plastic bottles are a terrible waste. I'd far rather have bottled water in *reusable glass bottles* available on something like a milk round.

Of course what I really aught to do is bottle the stuff at source for myself. Perhaps I will at that...

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:29 PM

PS - as other posters may have gathered, I'm feeling perverse tonight, so I thought I'd provoke some light quibbling ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:40 PM

Tap water is far better for you because of the "chemicalization". Medically proven... otherwise, engineers would not put chemicals in.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:43 PM

Bottled water tastes better if you shake it up before you drink it. That aerates it and cuts down the staleness. It doesn't eliminate the sweetness that comes from the plastic bottle, though.

After the shaking, I estimate it tastes about 30% as good as my tap water. (We have nice water.)

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Leadfingers
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:44 PM

And I am already paying for tap water ! Damned if I am going to pay for a plastic bottle as well

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:47 PM

"Tap water is far better for you because of the "chemicalization". Medically proven... otherwise, engineers would not put chemicals in."

Maybe, maybe not: Guardian: Fluoride water 'causes cancer'

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:53 PM

Some researchers have found various contaminants in bottled water, even fecal matter. Also, once opened, the bottle can incubate germs quite quickly. Tap water (at least where I live) is very safe. If you buy a filter jug (eg Brita) for your tap water and put it in the fridge, it tastes just as nice as bottled. I suspect there are vast profits made on these bottled ones. Also, why ever do young people today have to walk round carrying water at all times? You'd think they were crossing the Sahara.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 02:56 PM

"Although osteosarcoma is rare, accounting for only about 3 per cent of childhood cancers,..."

3% of what %?

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Micca
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:03 PM

Without further comment from me Look Here

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:03 PM

Was there not a thread on this a year or so ago?
I bring this up, because I recall some useful information posted?


Gnu.
When I stay in a Hotel in Moncton, and fill the bath tub with water, it is clearly yellow. What's the deal with that?

Do I recall the water system was closed for a summer (a few years back) , because of dead animals in it?

Anyway, a friend of mine in Moncton goes to a local free spring water source, to fill up in free fresh local spring water. I went with him once and there was a line up for the stuff, coming out of a pipe by a persons house but, it was free for anyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:08 PM

I only buy mineral water or spring water. But yes, one might assume that Coke would sell crap just like they already do ;-)

In reply to Gnu, 10'400 children were diagnosed with cancer in the US in 2007, so 3% of that figure would be 312 children diagnosed with osteosarcoma annually in the US.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:17 PM

"a friend of mine in Moncton goes to a local free spring water source, to fill up in free fresh local spring water. I went with him once and there was a line up for the stuff, coming out of a pipe by a persons house but, it was free for anyone."

I too used to collect from a lovely source on old Church ground near me, but water is heavy and it had to be lugged along a rough track back to the road. I aught to check out some other local sources though as underground springs are to be found all over the place.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 03:47 PM

Much garbage written about this.
Our tap water in Calgary is high in calcium-magnesium, often prescribed (doctors here recommend tablets to nearly everybody as a supplement). The added fluoride cuts dental bills.

I remember our tap water in Santa Fe, which had fluoride just slightly above recommended levels. I am in my 80s, no cavities. In parts of west Texas, the fluoride content was high enough to give drinkers brown teeth, but that seemed to be the only problem. Again, few ot no cavities.

Bottled waters only necessary in the desert or where there are contamination or toxic mineral problems (springs, rivers, etc.).

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:03 PM

Just wondering what percentage of daily fluids ingested is comprised of unadorned 'straight from the tap' tap water, for those who prefer to drink tap water to spring water here? I know that *some* people have pleasant water on tap if the water is soft and sweet in their region. But I don't think that is the norm for must of us rinsed sewerage water drinkers ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:09 PM

Oh, that's a point! Do you guys in the US get recycled sewage water on tap? We do here in the UK. All the shit is rinsed out then they stick chemicals in it to make it nice again. Yum!

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:13 PM

I filter my water for drinking and tea/coffee making thru the refrigerator....dispenser in door. I used to filter right at the kitchen tap, but now see no need to filter dishwashing water. My regular tap water is not bad, but cool, filtered water is just a bit better...(and the ice is made that way also). If I am going out, I have permanent bottles of various types I can cool and/or carry. I 'almost' never have occasion to drink bottled water, and will avoid it whenever possible....even though plastic is recycled here.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: pdq
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:25 PM

"Do you guys in the US get recycled sewage water on tap? We do here in the UK. All the shit is rinsed out then they stick chemicals in it to make it nice again."

Let's hope not.

We have always had enough country to supply water for everyone, but the mass illegal migration from Mexico is stetching the Colorado and Rio Grande to the point that we must choose between growing crops (which feed the people) and supplying the people with drinking water. The Southwest US is mostly desert.

As to bottled water, the plastic bottles often have the mould-release compound stuck to the plastic providing more "pollution" than tap water has. Save your money unless you live an area that has proven to have poor quality water.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:49 PM

I love water. I dream about it. When I was a kid I wanted to be a super hero who protected all water in the world.

In Essex, UK I drink nearly 2 litres a day, tap water through brita filter at home and from filtered cooler at work. Some days it tastes ok, some days it tastes vile.

Some days when you turn on the tap you can smell chlorine. That's when I break out the ice, which I chew. One of my indulgences here in UK is to buy bagged ice every week.

The best water I ever tasted was from artesian well at my aunt's house beside the Chickahominy River. Used to stock up on it. Take it home in gallon milk bottles and freeze it, then drink as it thawed.

Only buy bottled water, when out and about and I am thirsty. In the US, I would buy giant cup of ice from fast food restaurants until they started to refusing to sell. I have been known to go in begging for ice claiming on behalf of someone who smashed finger in car door.

Did I say I love ice?

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: EBarnacle
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:05 PM

pdq, the largest demand on the Colorado River basin is agriculture. The second largest is maintaining lawns and other inappropriate uses in desert environs. If you read the reports, most of the US is headed for a water crisis.

1: We are overdrawing our aquifers. The rate of use exceeds the recharge rate by a massive amount.
2: When we overdraw the aquifer, we lower the back pressure that slows septic infiltration into the aquifer.
3: If the aquifer is near an ocean, the same lowered back pressure allows faster salt infiltration into the aquifer.

The average per capita daily consunption of water is 100 gallons. This includes the water needed to grow food and natural fibers for clothing. It also includes water used in manufacturing the goods we use daily, including the chips and other parts of your computer.

The two things you can do which will reduce your daily consumption the most are: shower less and flush the toilet less often.

If you live in areas where they are attempting to get natural gas by fracking the strata, know that the process is releasing toxins into the water. It is also breaking down the barriers between the trapped sea water that is mixed in with crude oil and the strata where water can be found.

There is no question that there is approximately the same amount of water on earth than there was a couple of billion years ago. The problem is that the portion of it which is nominally potable is getting smaller as people use it for their own purposes, including as a convenient sewer.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:25 PM

"artesian well at my aunt's house beside the Chickahominy River. Used to stock up on it. Take it home in gallon milk bottles and freeze it, then drink as it thawed."

Hey, there's a thought! Never considered freezing water from a spring before. I'll keep that idea in mind if we get a bigger freezer.

In other news here's some new-age contemporary folklore about the chymical Glastonbury springs: red and white springs

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:25 PM

Each bottle which contains so-called 'pure' water takes 450 years to disintegrate...

Something to remember, next time you reach for the 'better option'

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: EBarnacle
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:41 PM

The industry in which I am directly involved and in which I have a patent pending is Atmospheric Water Generation [AWG]. I have a vested interest in producing clean water from humidity. AWG is capable of producing USP water as a normal thing. The contaminants which are normally present in ground water or rain water are either non existent or have been removed before it reaches the consumer. Cost of producing the water is approximately 1 kilowatt of energy per gallon. In many conditions of higher temperature or higher humidity, we do significantly better than that.

Anyone wanting a listing of the output curves or of one of our water analyses can PM me. AWG has implications for climate change and has the capability of prividing potable water to everyone on Earth who lives in areas where there is more than 50% humidity and temperatures greater than 10 degrees celsius.

I get upset when I see people like President Clinton being filmed when they hand out bottles of water at emergency sites, such as Haiti. The cost of this delivery is approximately 8 gallons of fuel for every gallon of water delivered.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Becca72
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:43 PM

I buy only Poland Springs water for my own consumption because I don't like the idea of the added chemicals in tap water. Here in Maine water bottles are "returnable" and Poland Springs recycles.

I also buy gallon jugs of spring water (store brand) to give to my cats as I have found that when filling their bowls with tap water after a day there is a rim of pink mold in the bowls. No way I'm letting my little ones drink that! The mold does not appear with the spring water.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:45 PM

Many/most urban US locations have secondary water treatment, and a few have tertiary treatment of various kinds. In areas where water is scarce, this level of treatment is becoming standard, just to have enough.

There are many ways for 'most' people to have both safe AND palatable water without resorting to plastic bottles.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: open mike
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:46 PM

I sell water filters..they are made from a solid block of carbon. I had a water source directly from a stream...surface water...for many years. By using my filter i had a secure source of water. The filter takes out heavy metals, particulates, and even giardia cysts and e.coli. the water comesout of a spigot...a small spout..mounted near the main faucet (the filter cannister is under the counter top.) Some of my customers get the filter just to remove the chlorine from the tap water. Some towns and cities add extra chlorine in the winter when there is run-off into the reservoirs from rain and snow. If anyone is interested in one of these filters, you can reach me at [e-mail].

There is also a local business which sells "clean canteen" a stainless steel water bottle which eliminates the need for plastic bottles.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:55 PM

pdq, it is the damnyankees, Anglo Tejanos and clodhoppers from more eastern regions that are swarming into the southwest, using the waters for irrigation on farms, lawns, golf courses at resorts; not the immigrants, illegal or legal, coming across the border.
As ebarnacle says, they draw down the aquifers and reduce the rivers to trickles insufficient to maintain fish populations.

The illegals coming across the border, on the other hand, mostly perform useful, if ill-paid, tasks that no Anglo would dirty his hands with.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 05:59 PM

This was a delightful find when we walked a local route.
A historic Roman spring I believe - pity about all the ugly iron bars around it now though:
Historic Roadside Spring

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: EBarnacle
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:13 PM

The problem that cannot be reduced by inline filters of municipal ground water is that the water that osmoses into the source water [even in New York City] from septic systems and treated water contains microamounts of various drugs and hormones.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 06:34 PM

I dunno, if you were offered the straight choice of rain and dew filtered by purifying mountain, to human faeces, urine and tampons filtered with purifying chemicals, which would you choose? For me, well I made my choice. Though I do agree with Lizzie about the problem with bottles. We recycle, but still plastics are not really a desirable option for any forward thinking person. Simply posting this thread has however reminded me that there are local natural sources I should avail myself of, even if it takes an extra half an hour a week or whatever, it's a better option than buying plastic.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: EBarnacle
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 07:08 PM

cs, you are surely right...if you can be sure that there are no contaminants in the water. Even if you get the water as it bubbles up from the ground, you do not know what it got exposed to before you got it.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 07:25 PM

Ed T... "Gnu. When I stay in a Hotel in Moncton, and fill the bath tub with water, it is clearly yellow. What's the deal with that? Do I recall the water system was closed for a summer (a few years back) , because of dead animals in it?"

Yellow... yeah, our pipes are old and there is a filtration problem which does affect some areas of the city, but that is being addressed and is far more limited now. As for the dead animlals... yeah... someome tied four hogs to alders in shallow water in the main resevoir one summer. (We had a "boil order" and not a shut down.) I wonder WHO would have done THAT eh? Hard to imagine but it DID happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: pdq
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 07:31 PM

As usual, this thread has branched out into too many subjects to respond to all of them.

EBarnacle...I agree that setting off bombs underground with the intent to fracture the rock and release oil and gas is a bad idea. Perhaps an atrocity if done within 100 miles of a city, dam or major underground aquifer. Ban the practice now.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Ed T
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM

"Yellow... yeah"
Just to be clear, it was yellow before I got in:)

"someome tied four hogs to alders in shallow water in the main resevoir one summer"

Sounds like a cult, or a scene from the movie Deliverance?

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: EBarnacle
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:04 PM

100 miles is not far enough. Many of these aquifers communicate across the continent.

We agree--ban fracking now.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: gnu
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:11 PM

ED... a cult... or a bottled water company.

EB... we are pesentltly in a scrap over natgas exploration here... in the same watershed as Ed and I have been talking about.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 08:50 PM

No aquifers communicate across the continent, but some cover at least half the distance. No matter, the aquifers, what is left of them, must be protected.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 03:20 AM

Compared to some third world countries our water isn't too bad at all. A little while ago I did go through a phase of buying mineral water until I learned the cost of transporting this stuff. In the summer I boil tap water cool it and pour it into bottles to chill in the fridge which also saves me having to freeze ice-cubes ready to drink or to add to cordials. But obviously if I was on holiday abroad yes I would buy mineral water to be on the safe side. If I do have mineral water it is just for rehydration if travelling or something like that where I can't get to a tap. If I am eating out and I don't particularly want alchohol I will have a sparkling mineral water because I do like the earthy taste of it strangely enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Essex water in Kent?
From: Penny S.
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 04:07 AM

My tap water acquires a mouldy taint from sitting around in the kitchen tap system - this will be altered as soon as I have some money released by house sale. I am assuming that it comes from the chalk aquifer as it is full of carbonate - I like carbonate rich water, having grown up on it.

I don't know if any of our Kent or Essex members know about the source on the NK marshes by the bird sanctuary near the Isle of Harty end of Sheppey - can't be clearer at the moment. I was down there with a friend who was off photographing frogs when I spotted someone with a car filling up bottles from a pipe which was gushing into a concrete tank. I asked if it was drinking water, and was told, in a French accent, that it was, because it came from Essex. (For our US members, this implies it had been piped under the Thames Estuary for a few miles.) I filled a few bottles, and it was a pleasant water, though I doubt the Essex origin. Anyone know anything about this? (I wonder if she meant it was from an aquifer running under the estuary and was an artesian well, which would make geological sense, though not necessarily economic sense.) If I had real information about this, it would be worth the occasional trip to stock up.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 05:01 AM

This NHS piece advises tap water for babies.
If that fails then you should use the water left in the loft tank and only use bottled water as a last resort.
They do not say, but the reason is the nasty chemicals that leach out of the plastic and contaminate the water.

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/1945.aspx?CategoryID=62&SubCategoryID=63

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,cs
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 05:17 AM

Yes, plastics used to contain food and drink are an issue. Just think of the vast quantity of food packaged in plastic today compared to years ago when people shopped for fresh food locally. They say that chemicals leaching from plastics into food, are contributing to male infertility I believe.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 06:24 AM

I remember when bottled water first started appearing in supermarkets (seems like only yesterday!). I was amazed - "no-one will buy that", I thought. But they did!

I put this down to the relentless bullshit that pours from the 'pens' of marketing people who have convinced consumers of bottled water that tap-water is bad for them. Those consumers should be aware that people in marketing departments usually know NOTHING about anything - they are usually just giant egos on legs who spend their time dreaming up lies to persuade people to buy their products.

Watch my lips: TAP WATER IS PERFECTLY SAFE AND NOT BAD FOR YOU!!!!!

And it also tastes fine to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: andrew e
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:02 AM

Bottled, or tank water tastes heaps better than tap water, and is not full of junk. Fluoride etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:38 AM

Bottled water is more harmful than tap water.
That is why you should not give it to babies.
Chemicals in the plastic have been linked to low sperm count and male genital problems that have dramatically worsened in the last 20 years.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:54 AM

Babies and young children should not be allowed to drink mineral water, and baby formula feed should not be made up with natural mineral water. Some have high salt or high sulphur content and, in particular, a high uranium content. Uranium is a heavy metal that is toxic to the kidneys and liver. The radioactivity of natural mineral waters are generally too low to be problematic.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A13745991

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 09:44 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:38 AM

Bottled water is more harmful than tap water.
That is why you should not give it to babies.
Chemicals in the plastic have been linked to low sperm count and male genital problems that have dramatically worsened in the last 20 years.


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Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 07:54 AM

Babies and young children should not be allowed to drink mineral water, and baby formula feed should not be made up with natural mineral water. Some have high salt or high sulphur content and, in particular, a high uranium content. Uranium is a heavy metal that is toxic to the kidneys and liver. The radioactivity of natural mineral waters are generally too low to be problematic.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A13745991

The solution then, Keith of Hertford, is to not give babies and young children ANY water? Really - what are you saying?

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 11:21 AM

Bottled water is no better or worse, in most cases than tap water. According to the FDA, in at least 40% of all cases, it is tap water. Of course, the plasticizer used in most of the plastic bottles is a carcinogen but we don't worry about that. Convenience is everything.

Every one of the major bottled water producers uses more than one bottling plant. Poland Springs is no longer only from Poland, Maine. Coca Cola set up a bottling plant in a desert [in Arizona, I believe] and was going to use a very slow recharging aquifer as its source. Fortunately, public protest caused them to abandon the plant.
That one didn't make the late night news in your area, did it?

Q, you are correct. The continental divide would split the communication, even if nothing else did. The point, however, is valid: If you frack the Marcellus shale, don't be surprised if contaminants show up a very long way from the injury.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water V's Bottled Water
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 12:28 PM

A few years ago, during some kind of UK water panic, I overhead the following conversation in the supermarket.
First woman:-(addressing friend with a trolley full of bottled water)
"What have you bought all that for?"
Second woman:- "Well you never know, and you can't be without water"
First woman:- "But we live in Malvern!"
Malvern is a Spa town with literally dozens of freely available fresh springs of proverbially pure water. It was, until very recently, bottled and sold worldwide as Malvern Water, by Coca Cola. The springs have never been known to run dry.
I don't think reason has anything to do with the topic!
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water vs. Bottled Water
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 02:33 PM

Ebbie, both my posts were about the contaminants in bottled water.

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water vs. Bottled Water
From: Penny S.
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 02:48 PM

I have to own up to buying water at times - it's convenient if I get thirsty when I'm out. And when I was on the cruise, they gave out bottles for shore trips - I wouldn't have wanted to drink the ship water, and there wouldn't have been any opportunity for access to water on land. In Turkey. And the Greek islands. And Croatia. And it was hot.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: Tap Water vs. Bottled Water
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Nov 10 - 02:59 PM

Pepsi and Coke sell bottled waiter that is municipal tap water in most countries. But, it is tap water that is put through reverse osmosis and filters. You can do that at home, but it would be costly.

Why would one single out water in plastic bottles? Consumers use many products in similar plastic bottles, and it's in plastic coatings in canned foods that are retorted for long periods at very high steam heat (which allows the same compounds to release into the canned products). Additionally, we are subjected to cancer causing compounds releasws in plastics used in microwaves, and from teflon cookware and teflon in microwave pop corn bags.