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Subject: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 01 Jun 25 - 06:17 AM The Part 3 thread is getting close to the visibility limit. Let discussions continue here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 03 Jun 25 - 08:30 AM Refresh, to hoist above Part 3. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 03 Jun 25 - 03:32 PM What are you trying to hoist? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your intention can help address issues like high blood pressure. A little pill is better than a stroke. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 04 Jun 25 - 12:34 PM The chop-off limit for overlong threads is somewhere between 500 and 700, but I don't know quite where. I'm attempting to head off the vanishment (of the Part 3 thread) before it happens, ol' bean. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Jun 25 - 12:44 PM That'll work! |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 06 Jun 25 - 12:19 PM I'm not an ol bean. I am a green soy has bean. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 06 Jun 25 - 04:26 PM Beggars can't be choosers - someone interested enough in the subject matter (wide / deep / shallow / profane) of these threads to keep them going is rare these days. Amos and Little Hawk/Chongo were big players back in the day. There are quite a few notables still around but who probably never drop in any more. You can see fragments of the original MOAB but you find them by searching on the contributor - backtrack to their past posts and open any of them they shared on MOAB. It's an archaeological process these days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 06 Jun 25 - 06:55 PM Spaw ruled in original truthfulness. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 08 Jun 25 - 08:25 PM Black hole technology makes for interesting sci-fi grist but I favor ultra high voltage engines that deal with plasma electrodynamics in a toroidal fashion. Tesla and dozens of inventors would agree that ultimate electric power generation has remarkable side benefits. The powers that be on Earth have dealt with those inventors with extreme prejudice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 09 Jun 25 - 10:20 PM Mom continues! She lives, and I have returned from the Great Basin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Jun 25 - 10:47 PM The Great Basin? That's a rather broad swath of the western US even for a swathbuckler like you. Did you visit a particular portion of it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jun 25 - 07:01 AM Isn't the Great Salt Lake puddle part of the Great Basin? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 13 Jun 25 - 10:59 AM I trekked every square millimeter of it. I couldn’t go above 15,000 feet of elevation however. Overall it was a good trip, much of it spent under the Dark Skies of the NP. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bei mir bist do schön From: Donuel Date: 15 Jun 25 - 03:54 PM Of all the goys I've known, and I've known some When I first met you, you were loathsome And when you came down the escalator This new world became as old as yourself You're really swell-headed, and ignorant Deserving expressions that really fit you And so I've racked my brain, hoping to explain All the things that you do to me My dear Mister Trump, with small hands and a stump My dear Mister Trump, you are a grump My dear Mister Trump, again I'll explain I mean you're the least fair in the land u will never understand |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 21 Jun 25 - 05:45 PM WHAT are you doing waaaaaay down at the bottom? Get up where the people are and stay there. |
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Subject: RE: All in the family part 4 From: Donuel Date: 22 Jun 25 - 07:03 PM Boy, the way Bing Crosby played golf that made his driver fade Guys like me we had it made Those were the days Didn't need abortion fate ev'rybody pulled his weight gee our Oldsmobile ran great Those were the days And you knew who you were then girls were girls and men were men Mister we could use a man like Gen'ral Jackson again People seemed to be content fifty dollars paid the rent freaks lived in a circus tent Those were the days Take a little Sunday spin go to watch the Yankees win or have yourself a lynching day where white folks wore a big grin those were the days Hair was short and skirts were long Kate Smith really sold a song I know exactly what went wrong Those were the days The Klan had a really nifty plan Everybody understands what their place is in this land Those were the days Now that UFOs are real What's the big fat hairy deal They've been here all along Those were the days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:03 AM Opposite-spinning toroidal plasma creates an electrodynamic gravity repulsion that also generates massive amounts of electricity in a very small generator. We all could have one if it wasn't for oil company repression, |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 23 Jun 25 - 11:07 AM And the temperature of the reaction? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:03 PM I'm lucky to just spell toroidal but the temps are not like those of fusion. Plasma is hot but not impossibly hot in such small amounts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 23 Jun 25 - 07:14 PM A large generator would ionize the air around it in a bright light field, which could be insulated against... somehow. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 23 Jun 25 - 08:04 PM Vera Rubin is FINALLY honored as one of the most important astronomers of our times. https://www.npr.org/2025/06/23/nx-s1-5355034/vera-c-rubin-observatory-first-images |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 23 Jun 25 - 10:23 PM Note in picture 2 that the two large white galaxies are spinning in opposite directions... |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jun 25 - 11:01 AM So far all our deep space probes and Mars rovers have used radioisotope electric generators. The next generation of electric generators will be these toroidal plasma electric generators, which are, candidly, more reverse-engineered technology than not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:22 PM I've been looking around YouTube this morning for an old lecture by an old guy that I'm sure gnu originally shared with us years ago. To do with how gravity fed water can create great pressure, but it wasn't a lecture about hydroelectric dams. It was on a much smaller scale. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:55 PM You're right, Stilly, though I *think* I got the information by following a lead --- Gotcha: Ruina montium, linked from the Pascal's Barrel reference. Is that the basic information you were after? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jun 25 - 01:09 PM That was quick - and getting very close. Yes, I remembered the discussion of artesian wells in the lecture, and the reference to ancient uses. He was applying it to the generation of power (probably to turn turbines or create steam) but it wasn't hydropower. I don't see a link to the lecture - he explained it clearly, and that's what I'm going for. MOM says you earned yourself a beer out on the screened in porch. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jun 25 - 07:28 PM The Roman aquaducts used part of this principle to make water go uphill. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 26 Jun 25 - 03:59 PM Friend and guardian of the forests, friend of man's best friends, and part of the garrison to protect artifacts, this person lends a hand without fanfare. Experienced in the sacrifice of parenting, sustenance has become a masterful art from the earth to the table. Policing those who should be friends and teaching how to simplify home environments, there is an ever-growing expertise in research. When two dimensions are not enough, three dimensions open a new understanding. I am a volunteer's volunteer, like an artist who is an actor's actor. Who am I? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 29 Jun 25 - 01:18 PM If the plane you are on flies through a cloud you probably felt a bumpy ride. When you consider that an average cumulus cloud weighs about a million pounds the wild ride is easy to understand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 29 Jun 25 - 05:19 PM The growing application of nuclear power has introduced the problem of materials changed by exposure to high-energy nuclear radiation. The steels that make up the primary containment vessels of nuclear reactors may undergo progressive embrittlement with neutron bombardment. Embrittlement is relative and may be small or large; it is important in either case because of the major function served by the vessel and the economic implications of overly conservative design and operating practice as a result of uncertainties. A hydrogen bubble at 3 Mile Island did not blow up the reactor, but it did at Fukushima and Chernobyl. Today, there is a spherical form of nuclear fuel that will not melt down, but it will not be used at the newly proposed nuclear plant on the shores of Lake Ontario. There are several nuke plants on the shore of Lake Ontario, including Ginna and Nine Mile Point. Ginna is so old that it should have been shut down 30 years ago, but it is still going. I guess this is part of the Trump drill baby drill fanaticism, but like war, it is a racket that makes money for a few and can have ruinous consequences for millions of others for a very long time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 30 Jun 25 - 06:29 PM 3 Mile Island did have a hydrogen burn heard as a loud Thump clear across the river, but did not have a supersonic explosion. The billion-dollar EPA clean-up is far from finished, so I wonder if the Trump cuts will leave the melted fuel in the middle of the Susquehanna River. I lived upriver from the plant and felt a highly unusual nausea in my spine after day 1. I went to California for the week. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 01 Jul 25 - 10:01 AM Okay, MOM. It’s just two months before I go to Nome. I’ll check on that ladies’ boarding house you ran there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Jul 25 - 10:43 AM An uncle had a gold mine in Alaska somewhere. Now might be the time to check it out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jul 25 - 04:31 PM https://www.mapquest.com/us/alaska/womens-shelter-352818593 |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 02 Jul 25 - 05:55 AM This is Final Tap with the deficit turned up to 11. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 02 Jul 25 - 06:31 AM Mr. ICE vigilante You've thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear of kicked children Out of our world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain't worth the blood That runs in your veins How much do I know To talk out of turn You might say I should go You might say I'm unlearned But there's one thing I know Though I'm smarter than you That even Jesus would never Forgive what you do Let me ask you one question Is your money that good? Will it buy you forgiveness? Do you think that it could? I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul And I hope that you die And your death will come soon I'll follow your casket By the pale afternoon And I'll watch while you're lowered Down to your deathbed And I'll stand over your grave 'Til I'm sure that you're dead Bob Dylan |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 04 Jul 25 - 10:39 AM It turns out that I am younger than the youngest member of Black Sabbath on their last comeback concert. I bet the band and audience all have hearing aids. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 07 Jul 25 - 12:50 PM The mayor of Kerrville TX was told not to mention that there was no 1 AM phone warning of the flood until 5 AM at the Governor's press conference. The Trump decimation of the weather service and all the science climate groups and responders like FEMA was to eliminate mention of climate change and put that money toward the wealthy tax cuts. No one told Trump to think it through. Now he says the weather service did their job. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 07 Jul 25 - 02:17 PM > I bet the band and audience all have hearing aids. .... turned up to 11. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jul 25 - 10:05 AM Hold onto your illusions of beauty and joy. Teachers, religions, and politicians grew limitations to freedom meant to destroy. The sky can be any color, not just blue. but beauty belongs to you. The most glorious truths are illusions That does not mean they're not real. Life in the sea and land aren't delusions. They are as real as the way you feel. but beauty belongs to you. We are just an interface that translates. Reality goes farther than we can see Illusions like the heavenly gates for some is as real as can be. but beauty belongs to you. donuel |
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Subject: RE: BS: Joke thread for 2025 From: Donuel Date: 09 Jul 25 - 11:14 AM The key to happiness is lowered expectations. No lower.... Even lower... There you go. Money is not the key to happiness But if you can afford it, you can have a key made. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Jul 25 - 12:40 PM MOM is intrigued that there is a large orb spider web on the screen porch. It's near the porchlight, so applicants present themselves for the dinner menu nightly. Watching a spider eat beetles is more entertaining than politics and other social activities these days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 11 Jul 25 - 11:51 AM Musk is no genius when it comes to launching a Mars mission from Earth. It is far more wise to stage and build the spacecraft from lunar orbit and shield the craft with water from lunar polar ice. Its only a couple days journey to lunar orbit that limits exposure to solar and cosmic radiation. Spending a year or more in an unshielded craft all the way to Mars is a good way to kill astronauts if you give a damn. Yes we have had astronauts in lower Earth orbits for a year but that still limits radiation poisoning with the Earth's magnetic shield. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 11 Jul 25 - 05:48 PM The betrayal of the MAGA fan. sung by Ella Fitzgerald spinning in the grave After one whole quart of brandy Like a daisy, I'm awake With no Alka-Seltzer handy I don't even shake Trump is not a new sensation I've done pretty well, I think But this half-ton imitation Put me on the blink I'm wild again, beguiled again A simpering, whimpering child again baited, bothered and bamboozeled - am I Couldn't sleep and wouldn't sleep When Trump came and told me, I shouldn't sleep baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I Lost my mind, but what of it He is cold, I agree He can laugh, but I love it Although the laugh's on me I'll vote for him, and midterms for him And long for the day when we'll cling to him baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I He's a fool and don't I know it But a fool can have his charms I'm all in and don't I show it Like a babe in arms Trumps's the same old sad sensation Lately I've not slept a wink Since this half-pint imitation Put me on the blink I've sinned a lot, I mean, a lot But I'm like Q of QAnon baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I I voted for him, did midterms for him And worship the hair style that clings to him baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I When he talks, he is seeking Words to get off his chest Off the monitor speaking He's at his very best Vexed again, perplexed again Thank God, I can be ever blessed again baited, bothered and bamboozled - am I Wise at last, my eyes at last Are cutting you down to your size at last baited, bothered and bamboozled - no more Burned a lot, but learned a lot And now you are King, so you earned a lot baited, bothered and bamboozled - no more Couldn't eat, was short on cash Life's so hard as fascist Now my heart's antiseptic Since you don't seem to care Bromance, finis; your chance, finis Those antics that invaded my mind, finis baited, bothered and bamboozled - no more |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 12 Jul 25 - 05:39 PM Mom, you know what we've been up to the last 48 or so hours. It all seems to be straightened out now, and I'm triple twisting and triple distilling our network safeguards. No, I think the thing came about by social engineeering somewhere, but I'm not taking any chances. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 12 Jul 25 - 07:44 PM Has anyone else gotten a Fed Ex stating that you should self deport yourself before ICE agents are deployed. This week Rosie O' Donnel was told her citizenship is to be removed. During this moral and financial vacuum, so far, half of it is for show. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 13 Jul 25 - 06:41 AM > half of it is for show I thought it was *all* performative cruelty (cf the migrants issue here in the Zeroth State): circuses to distract from the shortages of bread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Joke thread for 2025 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jul 25 - 11:17 AM What is the difference between a critic and a puppy? With time, training and patience, it is possible to make a puppy stop whining. Critics are to comedy writers what dogs are to trees. The unpaid profession of being a heckler is dropping now that guard jobs are hiring at Trump's deportation prisons. Title-Author Jokes by Colin Blow and Kenda Poor Get Your Eyes Tested by Seymore Clearly My Motorbike Accident by Kay Moffatt Drinking Too Much Water by I. P. Allott Ready To Go by Sadie Word Urine Sample by Phil A. Beaker Spending More Than You Earn by Owen Munny Too Tired To Go On by Eli Downe African Wildlife by Ella Fants I slipped up by Ben Anaskin I’ve Wet Myself by Dan Pundies |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 13 Jul 25 - 03:58 PM Half is for show and the rest is to foster fear. You have a point that it is all performative if it weren't for the actual torture camps here and in war zones and despotic foreign countries. You strike me as a disciple of experience like Stilly but do you also have an advanced degree? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 14 Jul 25 - 06:01 AM The acts in this theatre of cruelty are the show; the fear comes from the randomness of their application. But may I suggest we discuss all this in other threads? MOM is beginning to look distinctly restless, if not downright thunderous, and we all know what *that* means. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 14 Jul 25 - 06:16 AM I fully expect Ghislaine handled things like an Epstein client list. Lightning Crack BOOM |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 14 Jul 25 - 12:13 PM Oh, I have been to Ludlow Fair And left my necktie God knows where and down in lovely muck I’ve lain, Happy, ‘til I rose again. The sub it was the old sun yet, And I was I, my things were wet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 14 Jul 25 - 06:18 PM Our dear Mr. Trump would lurk at Jr. Miss America dressing rooms He couldn't resist being a jerk. When it came to Epstein, I assume that rapist Trump did the worst. When teenage Ivanka began to bloom Daddy was likely her first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 18 Jul 25 - 06:19 PM Where are you gonna go now? Where are you going to land? You could have stayed on Comedy Central You sure have plenty of fans You know you can't hold on forever We all signed up together with you You're not a present for your friends to open You are still too young to be singin' the blues [Refrain] Ah, ah-ah, ah, ah Ah-ah-ah, ah [Chorus] So goodbye Stephen Colbert Where the gods of comedy howl You were kicked out of your place on Late Night TV It sure is a kick in the bowels Back to the howlin' old owl in the woods Huntin' the horny-orange toad Oh, You need to decide where your future lies Beyond the yellow brick road [Refrain] Ah, ah-ah, ah, ah Ah-ah-ah, ah [Verse 2] What do you think you'll do, then? I bet they shoot down the plane It'll take you a couple of vodka and tonics To set you on your feet again You say there is no replacement There's not many like you to be found Comics who have got plenty With talent and feet on the ground [Refrain] Ah, ah-ah, ah, ah Ah-ah-ah, ah [Chorus] So goodbye Stephen Colbert Where the gods of comedy howl You were kicked out of your place on Late Night tv It sure is a kick in the bowels Back to the howlin' old owl in the woods Huntin' the horny-orange toad Oh, You need to decide where your future lies Beyond the yellow brick road |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 18 Jul 25 - 09:06 PM The grayness of Spring colors my soul And the quiet river, full of flood, Carries its sticks from eddy to eddy Until at last They find rest On the soft, silent bottom of the sea. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Jul 25 - 11:26 PM Do one about making fresh refrigerator pickles from garden cukes. And don't forget the garlic! |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 19 Jul 25 - 10:23 AM Cruelly ripped from mothers’ bodies, Flayed, remorselessly cut and chopped , Salt water splashed into fresh wounds, Then later enjoyed amidst laughter.. How’s that, Stilly? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 21 Jul 25 - 07:20 PM We have all recently been taught that the universe is expanding but if one takes a deep dive into Einstein's statistical universe it is an illusion of time from our perspective. This is because the universe is dispersed like a sponge with great voids surrounded by dense filaments of visible and dark matter that slows time but the voids have an opposite effect on time . The farther you measure through many voids to a distant point the more time will be skewed to our point of view. The universe is not expanding in the way we first thought, based on Nobel Prize-winning ideas regarding Type 1A supernovas. We jumped at the clear illusion because we tend to think all regions of space are the same as where we are. We don't live in voids. Time is very different there. It just goes to show ya how easy we jump at the Occam Razor solution when in fact there are forces beyond our first thought that are not obvious. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 22 Jul 25 - 05:40 AM In a nutshell, there is expansion but not the exaggerated acceleration blamed on an unknown dark energy. I have also theorized that the inflation theory is primarily an illusion due to time dilation caused by mass and gravity. Like an optical illusion, there are time illusions. Enormous null voids contribute to the illusion. Similar to an atom or a bubble, the largest structures in the universe are empty. These illusions are enticing, but like early Copernican thought that the Earth was the center of the universe, it is a trick of our mind's perspective. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 22 Jul 25 - 08:09 AM Thanks to black holes, we have had about a hundred years to think in terms of space having no speed limit and time being so maluable as to be beyond absurdity. It has shown us that the nature of nature can be absurd from our perspective. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jul 25 - 09:13 AM When time ends at the singularity region, it transforms under incredible pressure into dark matter that wormholes its way into the universe. Meanwhile, the compressed matter transforms into a space-time that is independent of gravity. If you find that this switching is bizarre you will find that Roger Penrose has been honored for his diagrams showing how this is done. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Jul 25 - 11:42 PM If Amos or gnu were still around this would be their kind of story. (Also of interest to others, but this is something they might share.) “This Kills Big Oil in One Stroke”: Record-Breaking Solar Tech Slashes Hydrogen Costs by 70% and Sparks Energy Industry Uproar In a groundbreaking advancement poised to revolutionize renewable energy, Chinese researchers have developed a novel method for solar-to-hydrogen conversion that dramatically enhances efficiency and reduces costs, potentially transforming the future of sustainable energy production. It's your classic interesting science engineering article that is way over most of our heads. The implications of this breakthrough are far-reaching. The ability to produce low-cost green hydrogen directly from seawater positions CZTS as a cornerstone for sustainable solar fuels and a circular hydrogen economy. This innovation could potentially redefine how we approach energy sustainability, aligning with global efforts to reduce carbon footprints and combat climate change. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 27 Jul 25 - 08:39 AM WOW fertilizer and safe hydrogen fuel from solar cells and seawater?! European news is not incumbered by big oil as American media seems to be. Bad move for US tariffs on China if cheap energy is desired. Meanwhile, Trump has defunded all climate change research and remediation programs. Guess who will probably make Hydrogen hybrid electric cars? Let's hope this is as earth-shattering as it sounds. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 29 Jul 25 - 09:25 AM Okay, I'm back from the DC Area. Notice that when I went, Trump flew to Scotland. He's afraid of me and what I can do to his little shenanigans. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 29 Jul 25 - 02:10 PM Which fort did you see? Science is a meticulous pain in the ass. It offers no guarantees that it will ideally advance our future, but it has had successes in our past. It has always done so in a nonlinear fashion. The challenge is whether it is employed as a weapon or a wonder for our lives. The defunding of science via the white christian nationalist project 2025 is like retreating to religious tribalism that troglodytes experienced in prehistory, all the way through the Renaissance. Some may blame ourselves for being vulnerable to con men and psychopaths. That is a fault of our evolution and not each individual's philosophy. In today's atmosphere, we might even relitigate the Scopes monkey trial. Insulated groups in the military-industrial congressional complex have created the greatest threat to trust in government. If trust can be reclaimed in the government by way of honest disclosure, we may have a chance to advance science naturally. Science is a close race, and America has been penalized by the Trump administration. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 29 Jul 25 - 02:18 PM The ongoing threat is if science will advance weaponry or wonder in our lives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 29 Jul 25 - 07:41 PM Or both. Look at the advances in aircraft made during WW2. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Jul 25 - 10:26 PM Rap, when is the next time you'll be in Salt Lake City? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 31 Jul 25 - 06:48 PM Rosette Nebula |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 25 - 01:50 PM Somewhat lost in the mist of historic ancestry is the remarkable, if not impossible, joining of the last descendant of Jesus and an Austrian ancestor of Hitler. The Scottish McLeod family had protection from the Knights Templar in their time as the remaining descendants of Jesus, whose earlier roots had been in France. The small Island in the north of Scotland had suffered greatly in WWII by losing 1,000 of its young men. Then, at war's end, the drowning of 200 returning soldiers in the Stornaway harbor sinking of their ship. That left Mary McLeod, born in 1917, the last descendant. In Germany, the Drumpf family had maternal descendants in Austria who included Maria Anna Schicklgruber: Adolf Hitler's paternal grandmother. A sister of Maria Anna, Gretchen had one child out of wedlock, who was Fred Trump's grandfather. What do you get from the union of Hitler genes and Christ? Apparently, you get an amoral monster called Donald John Trump. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 25 - 02:00 PM Fred Trump and Anna Maria were unaware of their unlikely ancestry, but their children ranged from the just to the conflicted to the amoral. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 02 Aug 25 - 07:51 PM The early root family of the Scottish McCleods was known as Saint Nuages in France and was defended by De Molay and associates. In Germany, great-great-grandfather Drumpf was known to be an influential pimp. As much as Donald Trump wants to brag about his German heritage, he has been advised to hide that side of his family. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 03 Aug 25 - 06:25 PM I dunno, Stilly. Almost certainly Thanksgiving-ish. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 07 Aug 25 - 09:17 AM GRANDFATHER Drumpf fled Bavaria to avoid the draft (soud familiar?) and went to the Klondike. He found gold by opening the "Arctic Hotel", a wayside tavern/brothel on the way to Dawson City. He took his "earnings" to NYC, where he bought real estate. Visiting Germany, he was to be arrested for draft-dodging but apparently money changed hands and he was allowed to return to the US. Nice family. Makes me cautious about being an American of German descent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 07 Aug 25 - 09:36 AM I had another new idea this morning. Just like adding sound to movies changed everything about the motion picture business, a leap in technology could change movies forever. A big screen will not be required. Instead, streaming data to 8K visual googles with a controller will allow the viewer to change their POV and move about with freedom. The 'film' would never be the same twice with each viewing or among different observers. You could even move around an object or person that might block your view of something. In this artificial holographic world, you become a participant in a brand-new way. Cameras would be both visual and laser scanners. The rendering would be AI. The theatres would own the googles, data, controllers, and headphones that would also have POV volume. While some people would enjoy looking at a dynamic sunset from a mountaintop, others might dare to peer down the cliffside. I think you get the idea and possibilities now. This could change motion pictures just like my idea for phone-controlled doorbells changed the doorbell. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 07 Aug 25 - 02:57 PM Then no one would have to go do much of anything.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 07 Aug 25 - 04:17 PM Naw, they said that about internet porn. It may have cost us a generation of socially sound young men, but that's all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 08 Aug 25 - 09:55 AM Like everything else there, Internet porn is REAL! |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 10 Aug 25 - 10:31 AM Today is Nagasaki day, which invites the question: Who is more likely to out crazy the other, Putin or Trump? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 10 Aug 25 - 10:49 AM Very funny Rap but; My experience is that the internet has many examples of REAL; fraud, cons, exploitation, uninformed opinions, and that YouTube will not remove such posts. While there are wonderful posts on YouTube, the lies, exaggerations, and criminal fraud are tolerated with equal time. You know, just like MOABS. There are red flag warnings on some posts, which is an improvement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 13 Aug 25 - 08:58 AM Just got forward to the hydrogen-from-sunlight entry, and had to make this comment before continuing. There's two things (other than Big Oil money) that'll kill using hydrogen for fuel, except under extremely specialised circumstances like rocketry: 1) Hydrogen leaks like the bugger. The standard way to find a leak in a cryo situation (eg cooling down superconducting magnets) is to test for a helium leak, as it's almost as good at finding the least little leak as hydrogen, and it's easier to detect helium in vanishingly small amounts as there's not much of it in breathable air. 2) When hydrogen burns in air, the flame is invisible to the naked eye. The standard way in NASA of checking whether (and where) there's a hydrogen leak that's aflame is to carry a brush broom in front of yourself, bristles first, and see whether that catches fire.* Put those two together, and *foom*. And *that*, medames et messieurs, is why the idea of using hydrogen as fuel gets, erm, shot down every time it's put forward, which is about once a decade. * Perhaps that's where Sir Pterry got the idea from for CMOT Dibbler's patented dragon detector. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 13 Aug 25 - 09:18 AM Heads-up VR cinema: methinks that'll go down as well as 3D glasses (something else that comes around once a decade or two). And that's before you factor in the nausea induced by the millisecond lag between the user's head moving and the picture adjusting to compensate, which is what sank it for military use in the trenches. Remember the expression "glassholes" .... ? Nice try, Donuel, but no cookie. You'd only throw it up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 13 Aug 25 - 09:41 AM .... but keep 'em coming, Donuel. It does the ol' grey matter good to be given a workout from time to time. Massage for the mind. Question of the Day: Why do all the Wall Street traders need to applaud every time someone rings a bell? As a separate but related question, why do they feel the need to take selfies every time? It's not as if exactly the same thing won't happen at the same time the next |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 13 Aug 25 - 12:14 PM VR movies are probably a Zuckerberg dream. They would be very expensive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 15 Aug 25 - 12:01 PM The bell is a symbol of survival and predictability. It is an expensive privilege to be the group to ring the bell. It's a box of chocolates, they don't know if the day will soar or crash at closing. History of the NYSE bell Early Days: The initial method for signaling the start and end of trading at the NYSE was a gavel. Transition to gong: In the late 1800s, the gavel was replaced with a gong. Iconic brass bell: In 1903, the NYSE moved to its current location and installed an electrically operated brass bell that has become the iconic symbol we know today. Modern era: While the physical bell is still present, the act of "ringing" the bell is now typically initiated by pressing a large button on the podium. Even with the rise of electronic trading, the tradition of ringing the NYSE bell persists and holds significant symbolic value for both the financial world and the broader public. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 15 Aug 25 - 12:15 PM I really enjoy 3D TV. The end of Valdamort is never better. Also the 3D navigation globe in Aliens 4 is masterful. I have the 3D versions of Cameron's Avatar movies. Real POV freedom movies might be good for mysteries. Filk may not know that I made a cochlear assist device decades ago but it was external and caused synesthesia. I was inspired by a deaf guitarist at RIT. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 15 Aug 25 - 06:35 PM If you train yourself to speed up your perception, you can see the individual flashes of fluorescent lights. Some baseball players can see a fastball at a slower rate. Seeing individual flashes does not work on LED fluorescent tubes, since I believe there aren't any. I speculate that other dimensions have their own unique temporal rates still within the Planck scale. You may have seen the STNG plots based on different time dimensions. Suppose a dimension has a time signature so unique that it is adjacent to all regions of space without elapsed time. It would be very useful in sci-fi scenarios. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 16 Aug 25 - 02:12 PM > you can see the individual flashes of fluorescent > lights I don't know why, but I can see one particular bar of ceiling lights in the kitchen coming on in two steps, maybe 100ms apart, where nobody else seems to. But then the first time I saw The Sound Of Music in the cinema, I saw the trees judder between frames in the panning aerial shot in the opening sequence. I don't *think* I've trained myself particularly, but I used to be able to spot missing lines in MSDOS boot-up message sequences ("Ah! *that* line's missing, so you're missing *this* driver"). [snip: saga of a work colleague] |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 17 Aug 25 - 09:29 AM Tis the season of pumpkin spice like the decay of dumping sites Followed by an artificial cinnamon smelling like a dismal carcinogen |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 17 Aug 25 - 08:26 PM I clearly see a flash of light when I turn on the switch. When I push it the other way I clearly see darkness. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Aug 25 - 12:51 AM Not yet, Don. Give it a few weeks. Though I have been drinking more hot tea these days, just for a change from iced tea. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 18 Aug 25 - 08:28 AM Its so unseasonably cool this week. I've seen more pumpkin spice at the grocery and drug store already. As for my metaphysics hobby, I am firmly in the camp that the UFO technology is manipulating space and time. We manipulate matter and energy much to the aggravation of non-human intelligences. Whether their mastery of time is great or small, I do not know, although some think the 'aliens' don't want to harm us because they would be subject to the grandfather paradox hazard. That implies a great mastery, but they could simply coexist with our timeline without time travel. Then their time manipulation would be technologically smaller. Along with time manipulation is the phenomenon that nothing in our dominion can be locked away from them. They would have full access to everything since there would not be a vault that would be impenetrable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 18 Aug 25 - 05:28 PM Because something exists that we currently don't understand doesn't mean we will never understand it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 20 Aug 25 - 01:38 PM *Agree*, Rap: over time, humans tend to misunderstand things less. Sadly, the rate of progress is far from linear (or even monotonic), nor is the distribution of misunderstanding uniform. But at least most of us have advanced from weather being at the whim of some poor overworked deity to it being at the whim of the Quantum Weather Butterfly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 20 Aug 25 - 03:16 PM I don't know doesn't mean something will never be known to mankind. Every impossible thing witnessed is a clue that there is more we don't know and a pointer to new knowledge yet to be understood. I have only seen about 6 physics impossibilities that conflict with what we have been taught. Based on new data, there are thousands of 'whys' I can not comprehend, like why is Parkinson's accelerating past Alzheimer's? Why America has stopped the research of mRNA vaccines against cancer, dementia, flu, and other devastating conditions is easy to understand. =Idiots love to own the libs with bibles and guns.= |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 20 Aug 25 - 05:16 PM Ain't Trump cute He's enough to make you puke I tell you very confidentially Trump's a fluke |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 21 Aug 25 - 05:08 AM Good morning our Capitol how are ya? now that troops direct your every move. All the checkpoints and arrests are fairly heavy. Many will be gone when the day is done. School kids and workers try to hide the fear and worry goes far and wide the police take over is on the news and is watched in case relatives disappear. The fear and loathing makes citizens sad and blue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 21 Aug 25 - 01:23 PM He was an old thin skinned man They said he had a smile. So I went online and followed him awhile I don't know what they're thinking He even cheats at golf and con man deals He's taxing us making profits when he steals He's killing me harshly with his wrongs Killing me harshly, with his wrongs. Killing me harshly with his wrongs |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 22 Aug 25 - 01:31 PM THIS if number 99! A palindromic number! |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 25 - 08:29 AM 100 is binary code for... |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 23 Aug 25 - 02:51 PM You don’t KNOW?!??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 24 Aug 25 - 06:57 AM Like Sgt. Shultz or Ghislaine Maxwell, "I KNOW NOTHING!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 24 Aug 25 - 07:23 AM In my book. Netanyahu now ranks with the moat cruel Nazi genocide Generals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 25 Aug 25 - 09:20 AM There is a movie for people who like to think. It is called 'Frequencies'. It defines free will, fate, politics, and profound music in such a way that is excedingly simple yet haunting in its implications. It is available for free on Prime. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 26 Aug 25 - 07:58 AM Today is National Dog Day. Every dog has its day. It's the canine version of 15 minutes of fame. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 27 Aug 25 - 05:33 PM Apparently, enough is never enough. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 28 Aug 25 - 09:06 AM Well, I had a capilliotomy yesterday. Yes, some of my hair was cut off and thrown away, instead of being saved and revered as relics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 25 - 11:53 AM There are well over 5,000 near-miss reports of UFOs from pilots willing to report. There are 100 times as many distant sightings by pilots. Never has there been a collision. There is a likelihood that UFOs are vulnerable to lighting but not hittingS our aircraft. Since 2017 when the US military admitted that many UFOs are material realities, but there has been no outcry or public outrage. On the other hand there is far more concern regarding Trump tariffs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 31 Aug 25 - 09:35 AM THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE EXPERT Mnay experts have been fired but the real vacuum will come from AL taking over novice jobs at first and more advanced skills as time goew on. Mentors that remain may not be called upon to teach or inspire. Going down tech roads that are programmed to be bigots or unintuitive will mislead societies and culture. What it is to be human may become a bored, unemployed, overweight observer of life and art. Or life will have panaceas never dreamed of with idealized adventure. Utopia or depression are both possible. But the expert will probably go extinct. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Donuel Date: 02 Sep 25 - 08:31 AM The criminal will endure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 04 Sep 25 - 12:00 PM > taking over novice jobs at first That's the long-term problem with Artificial Incompetence: once one generation of trainees has been replaced, where will the next generation of experts come from? I still treasure my ability to do arithmetic by hand, despite having an electronic calculator, as wetware doesn't need a battery or mains supply. .... That's assuming there *is* a long term for LLMs. The bubble may have been given the skin of a dirigible, but I can hear the creaking of canvas under strain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 04 Sep 25 - 12:02 PM Google doesn't want to offer up any information about "capilliotomy." What are we to know about this procedure? |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 04 Sep 25 - 08:43 PM The surgeon, named Megan (Ol' Doc Megan) grabbed me and threw me into a chair. No anesthesia, she wrapped a bedsheet around me neck and attacked my head with scissors and electric clippers. When it was over, parts of me lay on the floor, the chair, the counter, and all over the surgery chair. Then she charged me USD30.00 and tossed me out into the street. |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 05 Sep 25 - 11:04 AM Yes, Mom. Sunday, the day after tomorrow, I leave for Seattle to fly to Nome. Yes, I will pick you up a Nome gnome for our home, but not for our Rome home. Your roaming kid is going Noming. Tuesday I'll set sail for Vancouver (the BC one, not the WA one). In the meantime I'll check in whenever I can, as service is spotty when you're living in a kayak on the Bering Sea, the Gulf of Alaska, and the Inside Passage. . |
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Subject: RE: BS: MOAB's Daughter (of all BS) part 4 From: Rapparee Date: 07 Sep 25 - 10:31 AM 2.5 hours left before airport pickup. I'll have a Seattle drink for Stilly. |
