BS: Kendall's health

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 09:48 PM

Now Bobert can go to bed.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: MAG
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 10:30 PM

Metformin gave me the runs like I couldn't believe. The doc kept saying it would eventually settle down, but after 18 months I quit it.

I'm not sure it might work from speeding food out of your system.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 10:40 PM

Kendall-
I find it hard to believe that a blood sugar reading of 118 would give rise to fatigue or dizziness; I had the symptoms, and they were a result of anemia, although I also have type II diabetes. Have you had a complete blood workup?

Remember, my people had diabetes while yours were still painting themselves blue. I know a little whereof I speak

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 11:23 PM

In 1974?

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: kendall
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 08:35 AM

Maine is always a few years behind in the fad dept.

Actually, my ancestors originated in Scandinavia, invaded Normandy, then in 1066 invaded England, so I don't think they used woad.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 08:45 AM

Bobert! You have a permanent place in the cellar now - under the concrete!

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Becca72
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 10:17 AM

"Ya know, Bobert, anybody that would put up with Becca is probably tougher'n they should be"

Rap,
who do you think MADE me this way?

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Rapparee
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 10:58 AM

I dunno. The Grinch? Santa Claws? The Toot Fairy?

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Midchuck
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 12:11 PM

Rap, stop fighting it. She got you. Roll over and play dead.

P.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 12:15 PM

Trust me Rap - you can't win this one.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Zen
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 09:09 AM

I was diagnosed with type II diabetes too this year.

Lots of good advice on this thread. I am not on medications at the moment and am attempting to lower and control my blood sugar through diet and exercise. The key is a moderate and balanced diet, portion control, avoiding added sugar in things (here in the UK pretty well everything is labelled and the damn stuff is added to pretty well every type of processed food), plenty of fruit (fruit sugar, fructose, is non-insulin dependent) and green vegetables, plenty of protein, oily fish for a couple of main meals is very good and, most of all, plenty of exercise.

Type II diabetes is serious but it is also controllable. The people who do have major problems are mostly the ones that can't get on top of the new regime. Dietetic advice is good but eat sensibly, moderately and in a balanced way and you're most of the way there.

Prolonged stress also raises cortisol and blood sugar levels so avoid that... music is good! (I have a very high stress job which doesn't help in that regards)

Zen

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: GUEST,MAG at work
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 12:15 PM

I forgot to mention: watch out for the sorbitol (fake sugar) in candy -- it can give you a bellyache if you eat too much.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Rapparee
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 01:04 PM

DON'T assume that fructose, lactose, corn syrup, maple syrup, sucrose, or anything else like that is different than plain old glucose-based sugar (roughly C6H22O11). The body converts all of them into -- GLUCOSE! And it stores the stuff as glycocides in your liver, which releases them when the body thinks it needs the energy stored in them. Normally this is handled by insulin, but if your Insulin Works (a small factory located on the sunny Isles of Langerhans) has messed up its productivity then you have some type of diabetes. Type II means that the workers have screwed up production, but you can't complain to the management or the Union so you have to bring in outside help, like diet or exercise or Metformin.

This is different from Type I, where the Union has simply gone on a walk-out strike and you have to use scabs (called injectable insulin).

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 06:00 PM

Sorry to hear, but it's treatable, yes?

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Zen
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:24 PM

The metabolism of different sugars is a rather more complicated affair.

Fructose is metabolized through a different pathway and set of enzymes than those of glucose, almost entirely in the liver, to fatty acids and triglycerides (not to glucose) and is not dependent on insulin.

Excessive fructose in the body has its own set of serious problems but they are different to those of elevated glucose. The fructose present in ordinary helpings of fruit is not a problem but excessive consumption of fructose is certainly harmful. Small quantities of fructose can actually have a positive effect in overall carbohydrate metabolism.

Zen

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Dec 08 - 04:30 AM

We have a great organisation here - Diabetes UK - with a useful website. I've learned more about my diabetes from Diabetes UK than I have from my doctor/practice nurse. It's a charitable organisation, and I'd encourage all UK diabetics to subscribe and/or donate.

There are also many, many local support groups who hold regular meetings and can give informed advice if it's required.

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: GUEST,Zen
Date: 06 Dec 08 - 05:32 AM

Agreed Backwoodsman, Diabetes UK is an brilliant organisation. I've just received a couple of excellent recipe books from them through the post... one with Christmas recipes suitable for diabetics.

Zen

Subject: RE: BS: Kendall's health
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Dec 08 - 11:10 AM

Just what you need -- elevated triglycerides!