BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 11:13 AM

"A great storm will sweep across your nation bringing the truth of Allah to every man woman and child"
bin Laden

"A great wind is blowing across our country restoring the truth of Jesus Christ and the promise for redemption"
Glen Beck


The formula for religious based states is the same, but the people who use them are waaay different.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 12:22 PM

Seems we're on the same page here, Donuel...

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: beardedbruce
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 12:39 PM

Donuel,


Speaking of winds and religious based states...




"Barack Obama's victory in last week's presidential election has sent a gust of change blasting through the Senate, leaving this most stable and august legislative body in a state of unprecedented upheaval. "


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5119249.ece

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 12:52 PM

Donuel, thank you for your spot-on take on things, for the courage to continue posting, you, too, Bobert, and for the compliment. Yes, many of us are thoughtful...I wish more had to energy/willingness to post more. I understand not wanting to stick one's neck out or dipping a toe in.

To Heck with Beck...I LIKE that! And, you're right...what has happened to the used-to-be vocal Left? I guess some have forgotten the old adage, fight fire with fire. I wish President Obama would be be less centrist and really kick some ass, so to speak!

kat

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 01:18 PM

The wind metaphor works well during hurricane season.

B ruce, The TImes?! Can't you find an American owned media other than the Korean owned Washington Times and Australian and Saudi Arabian owned Wall St. Journal?   Or do you revile the NYT for being American? (rhetorical question)
May you have an uneventful Hurricane Earl.



I buy American. I even buy General Motors despite the mentally challenged (aka retarded) management. But to be honest I will look at media from any nation while reserving judgement of its veracity by the sources cited and ownership.




If beggars got wishes:

I speculate that If Senator Kennedy had not been striken the Health care reform would have been delivered more efficiently and comfortably. A stimulus plan along the lines of a sweeping FDR deal would have been passed while the banks would probably have still recieved the treasury on a velvet pillow.

This would have bought us more time. I wish Barak had been as honest and direct in his response to banksters as FDR was BUT the world economy would have probably had a dozen or more Greece backrupt scenarios which would make make recovery speedier at the expense of much desperation, violence and extreme economic turmoil in the short run.

It will take a realistic 15 years to weather the blow of the greatest banking take over and theft the world has known since Spanish Conquistadors sacked all the gold from South America.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:06 PM

My Inheriting the wind cartoon



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Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:06 PM

Wasn't just the banks, Donuel...

As you are well aware, the US working class has been fleeced at every turn going back to Reagan's deregulations and less and less control over the markets... The bottom line is that there has been a massive redistribution of wealth to the wealthy and away from the working class...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:10 PM

Excellent work, Donuel. Thanks!

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:24 PM

PDQ
Beck is villanous first and formost for inciting people to kill the President. He has done so in a myriad of ways, all of which can be viewed but is a thread in itself. After that the rest of his false history lessons and theological rants in support of the Corporate status quo is actually a refined think tank generated brain washing technique. As cheesy as it looks it has very real ramifications.

Beck's rants have come out of other people's mouths at town hall meetings all over this country. His rhetoric coming out of a woman's mouth at a town hall meeting with Barney Frank took Barney by surprise and Barney asked the lady if she was from Mars. She was merely repeating the nutzoid rants from the Beck show which occupies 21 hours on the Fox cable channel every week. His radio broadcasts occupy over 8 hours a week on Clear Channel AM stations.

Stephen Colbert and John Stewart are so far the best antidote for Glen Beck's formula for inspiring anxiety, hate and division through the use of religion, delusional analogies and historic distortions.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:27 PM

I agree with the Reaganomic take over of the Executive branch by Wall St.
Other damage goes back to Nixon, Bush 1 and Clinton.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:35 PM

Cool Beans - PM
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:18 PM

Al Sharpton, Glenn Beck: Douchebags of the Left and Right. I hope they're happy together.



" Douche' "

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 04:44 PM

I don't give Nixon all that much blame, Donuel... He was too busy with his own problems to begine dismantlin' the post-GreatDepression regulations... But Clinton sho nuff didn't buck Ronnie-omics... Just let the Fat Cats steal whatever they could that the workin' class didn't nail down...

As for Beck and Palin promoting an atmosphere where folks might try to harm or kill Obama??? Yeah... Palin never once stood up to her redneck crowds where "Kill him" and "Hang him" were yelled... Meanwhile, Beck was stirrin' these folks up... To date, I can't think of one time any Repub has ever stood up and said "No need for this kinda hate speech"... No, the Repubs love it...

McCain did have that one ***good moment*** when he told that woman that Obama was not a Muslim but I think that one ***good moment*** is about it for the Repubs, Beck and Ms. Sarah...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 05:01 PM

Nixon was presented with the first model of a health care industry to be doled out by HMO's.

He was shown the great new corporate profits for Republican middlemen and so he introduced the first HMO health care delivery system with each middleman taking a huge slice of the pie paid for by medicine denied and operations the insurance company would refuse to pay for. ( See Sicko)

For example the school lunch program for kids getting a breakfast lunch and dinner snack is $6.98 in our neck of the woods. Exactly one dollar goes toward the food and the rest is administrative costs.

With health care for every one hundred dollars of health care you pay for, $88 dollars is administrative.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 07:00 PM

At least Clinton left office with a balanced budget and no deficit, despite Ken Starr and harassment from the GOP.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 07:38 PM

Weren't all that Clinton left office with...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 09:28 PM

..tail between his legs.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 12:33 PM

Excellent op/ed piece about Beck and his disdain for "liberation theology," HERE. Here's part of it:


Glenn Beck's opposition to "social justice" and "liberation theology" is all the more difficult to understand because of his cloaking of himself in the mantle of devout believer. "Look to God and make your choice," he said during his rally on Sunday.

If he looked at Jesus more carefully he would see someone who already made a choice: for the poor.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 01:15 PM

Barney Frank
asking woman what planet she spends her time on. He also said having a conversation with her would be like arguing with a table. I love this guy.

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 06:32 PM

I read that op-ed, Kat... Purdy interesting... Me thinks that before Rev. Beck get's back in the pulpit he might want to check out seminary... I mean, AA just ain't quite all that is needed to be ordained... At least in most churches...

No matter... The man has alot of cinfusion about theology...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 05 Sep 10 - 12:54 PM

This is an interesting and different perspective on Beck and his event: Dr. King's Newest Marcher, By Taylor Branch, OpEd in the NY Times.

It does not address Beck's hateful statements the very next day, which I heard echoed exactly by some high-up in the Southern Baptist church in an interview on Monday, but does it hold up some hope? Probably it depends a lot on whom he chooses to spend his time with.

~ Becky in Long Beach

Subject: RE: BS: King/Sharpton v. Beck/Palin Saturday!!!
From: robomatic
Date: 05 Sep 10 - 03:27 PM

I have not heard enough of Mr Beck to draw conclusions, but Al Sharpton as a standard bearer for Marting Luther King's idealistic speeches and brave public stances is enough to put me off my lunch.

So...thanks Mr. Sharpton!