BS: Noted without comment (2)

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 12:46 AM

Nevertheless, you might want to have a look in Dick's link. I've provided a clicky for it in my 20 Jan 06 - 01:34 PM post. It's the website of the White House. (You know, where the president of the United States lives). You have said, here in this thread, that the White House's website is not credible.

(Quick... somebody alert the FBI.)

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 12:57 AM

Don, this is not a discussion and I don't believe it ever will be one.

This is just hate against the President like it always is.

Hate by you, hate by the bobert types, and hate by our two great stars here, Anus and Acne. Anus and Acne, starring Amos and Arne.

This is the Mudcat hate the President web-site. That's all it is.

It is really quite the radical liberal cess-pool full of the lowest form of political activists. Whiners.

The attention is not on me, Don. It's really on you. And it's pretty fucked up.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 01:06 AM

Correction; this is disdain for ineptitude. Bush' in talking like a hick out of out-house training, and yours for not recognizing his natural voice when you hear it.

A.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 01:10 AM

No, Amos it's your disdain for everything Bush does, that's all.

It's just your daily mindset and your daily rant.

It's your total lifestyle and your existence on Mudcat.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:03 AM

Marty, I have to agree with you - this is not a discussion and I don't believe it ever will be one.

This is just hate against the mudcatters you are too stupid to understand the intellectual processes of.

Your mirth is evidence of your intellectual incapacity.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: freda underhill
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:14 AM

As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself — not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel." —George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006


"I think we are welcomed. But it was not a peaceful welcome." —George W. Bush, defending Vice President Dick Cheney's pre-war assertion that the United States would be welcomed in Iraq as liberators, NBC Nightly News interview, Dec. 12, 2005

"Those who enter the country illegally violate the law." —George W. Bush, Tucson, Ariz., Nov. 28, 2005

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 10:32 AM

Sorry, Martin--dehumanizing opponents was a favorite Nazi tactic--and is obviously a favorite of yours. The shoe fits---perfectly.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 11:17 AM

Wrong, Ron. Dead wrong. It is is just a feeble attempt on your part. I get dehumanized everyday here by your type and when you get it back, you cry Nazi. Bush gets it everyday by the liberal/socialist Nazis like yourself and I get it also along with the other brave ones here who don't buy your crap.

Quite the reversal. Take a look at the dehumanizing, gas chamber tactics that you and Amos, and Foolestroupe and others use here to anyone who truly does not agree with you. Your self-described master-race of Mudcat is the example of the backlash of that mindset that your liberal community faces in America now and in recent years. It is why you and your self-serving agendas aren't and cannot be taken seriously.

So, while I am not up to criticizing our leaders and government on a daily basis just to come across as a socialist activist, I do find it amusing and quite entertaining to point the finger at the ungreatful and shallow ones who do who pose as intellectuals in their own mind only, like yourself, Ron.

With no respect to you and happy in America,

Martin Gibson

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 12:35 PM

'Martn Gibsun':

No, Amos it's your disdain for everything Bush does, that's all.

You seem fixated on the fact that we seem to find fault in everything that Dubya does. You might have a point that we were being unduly negative and only looking to pick on him ... if it weren't for the fact that Dubya's been a Miserable Failure in everything he's ever attempted. As Molly Ivins said, he's the first Texas Oilman to never have found oil in Texas. His string of mediocrity -- if not outright and disastrous failures -- is legendary.

You want us to sing Dubya's praises, then just tell us one thing in his whole miserable life that he's managed to do right (and cheerleading at Yale doesn't count for much).

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 12:40 PM

I would say he grew up to be President.

Or is that way to much for you to understand? His life seems hardly miserable. At least you have the balls to admit your obsessive fixations and hate.

Now, really. How miserable is your life that makes it so filled with obsessiveness and hate on a daily basis. Hate for a leader and more than half of the country who elected him?

Chairs.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:06 PM

I would say he grew up to be President.

Strangely enough, though, not by will of the people. As for his ascennsion, that had more to do with the power plays (and nasty tricks) of the Republicans than it did with his own capabilties.

His life seems hardly miserable.

You'd have to ask him about that (although he seems rather churlish and hagggard nowadays ... when he's not sporting new bruises, scrapes, and other marks of having fallen down). But his record is certainly miserable. While not the greatest failure, I'd note that it was he that was at the helm (and doe-struck and clueless for seven minutes) while the single greatest terrorist attack on the United States was accomplished.

At least you have the balls to admit your obsessive fixations and hate.

You misspelled "disdain and utter lack of respect".

Hate for a leader and more than half of the country who elected him?

Ummm, "more than half of the country" didn't elect him. As for the second election, I'd point out that in the wake of the 9/11 bombings (for reasons that I understand but find irrational), Dubya was a "favourite" and considered a shoo-in for the next election. People tend to rally around the "leaders" in times of trouble and uncertainty, and Dubya's ratings were stratospheric. Of course, when it came down to actually doing something in response to 9/11, Dubya found way after way to bollix things up royally, to the point that he was reduced to proxy sliming of his opponent in 2004 just to barely squeak through. Since then, of course, as more and more comes out about how bad his maladministration is, his ratings have plummeted even more, and now over half the country thinks he shold be impeached if he broke the law (which he quite certainly did in many things not the least of which is illegal wiretapping).

"Brownie, you're doing a hck of a job." -- words that should be engraved on Dubya's tomb ... after he's passed on to whatever circle of Hell is reserved for those that throw the lives of thousands of youngsters away for their own private glorification and ends.

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:16 PM

Martin--you only get dehumanized if you allow it to happen. Happens every day?--says a lot about you.

As I said, nobody actually needs to do it to you--you've mastered the art of doing it to yourself. And very impressively, I must say.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:36 PM

"proxy sliming"

I like that one. I might have to steal it.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 03:44 PM

It's true--"proxy sliming" is in fact W's modus operandi. And it works like a charm. That phrase is bound to come in handy in future discussions.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 04:46 PM

They all do it, Ron. Although I have to admit, the Republicans, under the guidance of people like Karl Rove, have done it much more masterfully than most others.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 06:21 PM

"I get dehumanized everyday here by your type"

There is a psychological term for people who enjoy being hurt and will not walk away from the source, mate. It describes a sickness that needs treatment, the first step of which is to walk away from the alleged sources of your problem.

The more loquacious language Marty is now using, as in the rest of that post suggests that he is now sitting at the desk previously occupied by Terribus, having been engaged by the Bush Regime to be the replacement 'Proxy Slimer'.


"It's the same old story. Everywhere I go, I get slandered, libelled: I hear words I never heard in the Bible"

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:04 PM

this is crazy ....of course he's successful, he's the President.

you don't have to like him, but it argues having gained a degree of advancement in the world.

like some of these musicians with major recording contracts - they may sound horrid - but in worldly terms, they're successful.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:16 PM

this is crazy ....of course he's successful, he's the President.

Ummm, you looked at our country lately? Arentcha glad Dubya managed to turn things around and bring the country back out of its long national nightmare of peace and prosperity?

But I'd point out (once again) that Dubya's ascension was hardly of his doing; he was anointed. Not to mention appointed ... by his buddies on the Supreme Court.

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 08:31 PM

Speaking of the State if the Union, there's this to cogitate on.... Do check it out, if by some chance you think that -- even if the economy sucks, the national debt is stratospheric, our civil liberties are doing down the crapper, poverty is on the rise, schools are not getting funded, and various other sundry indicators of a country going to pot -- at least we're more "secure" with Commander Codpiece in charge (even though his "Mission Accomplished" was a load'o'crapola...).

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 06 - 11:09 PM

Yes, Acne/Arne I look at my country every day and I love living here and am glad you probably don't. You are sour grapes and if I am not mistaken thye supreme court did not annoint him the last time. So I guess you have just under three years more to live in the misery you are in. So keep whining. I'll keep working hard and living.

Sad for you that I feel this way, but I really could give a flying fuck what a doper like you thinks anyway. Bush's term will end and then you and your whiners will complain about whoever is next elected anyway. Must be a miserable exiswtence you have. Making little if any money, taking out your frustration with your laziness on an Internet forum, and blaming just about everyone else except yourself.

YOUR IMAGE IS OBVIOUS!

Basically, very few care what you and your type think, anyway.

Ron Davies, and the rest of the ones who followed my last post. Your comments are basically meaningless and really I do not care at all what you think about America, myself, or your morbid little lives. You can gang up on me all you want. You are just pissing in the wind, and it's blowing back in your direction.

Again, you really accomplish nothing and it's my total pleasure to tell you so. You are liberals who have none of the tolerance that you preach and can hardly be taken seriously. Especially you Ron Davies and for sure, Foolestroupe.

Mudcat's so called elite are some of folk music's biggest losers. Just about every day that is proven by how much an opinion such as mine winds you all up everyday. Why don't you channel all of your Bush hatred into some love in your own communities? Why not? Because you would rather sit on your fat, old asses in front of your computers that you probably don't even own and bitch how miserable everything is.

I choose something better than that. Too fucking bad. And lately, I have just enjoyed putting it all in that perspective for you.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 02:31 AM

'Martin Gibson':

Making little if any money, taking out your frustration with your laziness on an Internet forum, and blaming just about everyone else except yourself.

Projection, IC. So common on the RW. Along with a humongous scotoma when it comes to viewing the world.

Just about every day that is proven by how much an opinion such as mine winds you all up everyday.

Oh. Must have missed it. There was an opinion in all your ad hominem? Warn us next time, so we can spot it in all the bile and scat.

Again, you really accomplish nothing and it's my total pleasure to tell you so.

True, not much accomplished in the grand scheme of things, but we're kicking your puny a$$, 'Martin'. It's just something that begs to be done, and I won't deny a bit of satisfaction in doing it either.

Because you would rather sit on your fat, old asses in front of your computers that you probably don't even own...

No "fat ass", 'Martin'. And I'd probably whup yours. As for the computers, which one? The desktop PC, the three laptops, or the two Sun workstations? Sorry to say, only one of the laptops is not mine.

Care to make yourself more the clueless berk?

I choose something better than that [commenting on Mudcat].

Yeah, why don't you take a vacation from here and go visit Freeperville or Little Green Snotballs where you can get a nice circle jerk going and look like a (relative) intellectual luminary? I think that this is a course of action that would please everyone.

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 04:10 AM

I make little money.

Thank God - it doesn't mean you're a bad person.

In personal terms, a guy who gets elected President of the United States is a success.

It doesn't mean he's a successful president. Richard II was one of our longest reigning Kings, but by popular consent, he wasn't much good at the job.

You two lots of people disagree about this man. I can't see why you are so bitter about it. I bet he doesn't care about you.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 07:17 AM

Martin--

So sorry to hear that you get dehumanized "every day". Tends to belie your assertions about how happy and successful you are. But that's no great revelation.


But the result is obvious.

It's also, as I said, obvious that if you get dehumanized, it's your own doing-----you, who, I suspect, even in your relentlessly middle-class existence, do not suffer overly much (except in your twisted mind)----are only dehumanized if you allow it to happen to yourself.

For somebody who complains constantly about others' criticism of various aspects of life, you certainly have mastered the art of being victimized.

It also looks like you'll never learn the difference between richly deserved criticism of your good self and anti-Semitism. However, just for starters, consider the many Jewish posters on this forum--who, for some inexplicable reason, don't always agree with you. Can't imagine why that could be. Sure is a mystery. Why don't they realize that whatever you say is automatically right, and they should stand up and salute?

You'll have to give them another copy of the script--they must have lost the first one.

But, judging by how often you play the victim, it must make you happy. And you know our only reason for existence is to make you happy.

So I wish you continued happiness.

And, as I've said before, please continue to be Mr. Bush's apologist. It's important for everybody to see how a typical Bush voter thinks.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 12:54 PM

I'm not going to apologize for Bush, you moron. I am just going to keep telling you that your rants everyday are really proving nothing, Ronnie Baby, except that you have nothing better to do.

Arne/Acne same thing for you. I am not going anywhere and you can dissect my posts and analyse them any way you want to. It's apparent you also have nothing better to do.

Your real frustration came out in your post Arne/Acne. The real you just thinks about little green snotballs and saying it's my ball, you can't play. Your childishness and low self-esteem came right to the top, pal.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 01:47 PM

Hmmm... someone's childishness sure has. But I don't think you've pegged the rtight target, Martin. You have the wonder knack for inventing the most horrific personae for others and then telling them that's the way they are. This is not only really dumb, and counter-productive, it is also intentionally insulting. But intentional insults are your specialty.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 01:54 PM

No there not not Amos. I have no intentions on telling you again that you are an obsessive Mudcat ranter. You already know that. And you already know that you have been warned for making personal attacks. So find another thread to jump in and lash out at me. Again, you have nothing better to do.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: bobad
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 01:59 PM

What chutzpah that boy has.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 02:07 PM

Thank you, bobad. Some call it balls, but chutzpah is just as acceptable.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 05:53 PM

People have either talent or 'stickwithitness' - it's obvious which one you have...

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 06:13 PM

I would say that you have neither, foolestroupe.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 06:34 PM

Projection again...

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 06:44 PM

No, fact.

You dish it out but you sure can't take it, pal.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Amos
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 06:52 PM

I don't recall any such warning, mate. But I recall you're decision to leave because someone suggested your personal attacks were getting too annoying. Projection seems to be a specialty of yours. As well as fictitious personalities for folks, you seem to have a flair for inventing fictitious timelines for them as well.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 07:00 PM

You want me to write another song about you again Marty?

I have always stood up to bullies, meet you anywhere for a physical - but I don't have the cash anymore to track you down pal.

I learnt to stand up to gutless wonders like you when I was a kid. The time the local gang was led by a certain thug who bothered me to the point where I told him to put up his fists in a ring where he couldn't run away from me; he eventually chickened out, as he realised that if he beat me to a pulp, he would be in serious trouble as he was the local Golden Gloves boxing champ. I didn't care, I'd take Mr Ali on if he insisted in abusing me like you do. You live then you die - I prefer to live with my head held high - watch 'Cool Hand Luke', mate.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 07:01 PM

No, I left because I was phyically threatend with harm.

Not by you, Amos.

I came back because I do not feel threatened any longer.

I also came back because I'm a fan of watching liberal hand-wringing.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 07:19 PM

"No, I left because I was physically threatened with harm. ... I came back because I do not feel threatened any longer."

I'm sure some one else will eventually oblige you if you keep on the way you do.
~~~~~~~

"I also came back because I'm a fan of watching liberal hand-wringing."

This statement confirms that you do not have the intelligence to understand the concepts that upset you, so, like all stupid bullying thuggish Fascists, you are compelled to dismiss that which you cannot understand, in order to justify to yourself you own self importance and self confidence in your own widespread ignorance.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 11:59 PM

'Martin Gibson" sez:

I still say you have a problem with Jews. Either you work for one or pay rent to one.

Hmmmm. Now tell me, who here seems to have a "problem" with Jews? Is 'Martin' one of those self-loathing guys?

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 12:21 AM

Now here is some serious shit:

Scales of identity, like Japanese nesting dolls, are the key to adhesion of Consciousness to an "I:" structure.
All anti-social acts are rooted in a desire to free the victim from an identity he is perceived as "capable of being more than". It is like the desperate effort to shake some sense into a child, insane though it seems.
This explains the miracle of personal growth, which is, at one level, a contradiction. It is personal cleansing or releasing from identity that frees one to become, newly, the next identity outward. And
then begin again the relearning of the lessons that identity may have had to learn, which it did not, which resulted in its abandonment behind a screen of unknowing.
There are lessons only in the presence of identities.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 01:49 AM

"pay rent to one. "

Sorry dickhead, wrong again - I paid off the mortgage on my house and land.

"it's sure a lot better than walking around with the low esteem you exude."

Marty is the one with the ow esteem - he's the one vitriolically attacking others all the time!

You are the compulsive cacaphilic ranter here, mate!

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 02:55 PM

Dick Greenhaus did you really mean this is what you wanted from this thread?


From: dick greenhaus - PM
Date: 18 Jan 06 - 11:09 PM

Aw shoot. I was hoping that Doug or Martin would pop in and wxplain this thing to me.

This has become yet another gut-belly laugh at everyone who gets wound up about politics. Get your guns out boys.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 08:59 PM

I just posted (without comment) a direct quote from our Peerless Leader. I'm interested to note how some folks are willing to adress almost anything aside from the quote in question.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 09:37 PM

Because the direct quote means very little, Dickie boy.

People make slips of the tonque, are misinterpreted, and rant everyday.

The President is only human. Like you, he makes mistakes. Like you, everything he does or says is not stupid or foolish. What's stupid or foolish is making the assumption like many do here everyday is that everything he does is.

And you are just a whiner with an anti-Bush agenda, that's all. It's not even a question of supporting everything the President does. I certainly don't. But I just don't get my rocks off everyday whining about it here. It's definately more fun to make comments on the hand-wringers themselves. You have to admit. It gets much more of a reaction from them then their posts get about their daily disatisfied rant does everyday about the President. I don't see him wasting his time defending himself. No one needs to defend him here, because in the big scheme of things, what you posted has zero impact.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:04 PM

Shit. And here I was, thinking that every critical and devastating word I said about GW deprived him of sleep at night...and would eventually drive him to resign the presidency and apologize abjectly to everyone for being such a massive pain in the butt.

Zero impact. Damn.

You have just deprived my life of all further meaning, Martin. I may have to end it all in some hideous way now...by freebasing mangos or something of the sort.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Peace
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:06 PM

Get your portrait done on black velvet before you do that thing with the mango.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:08 PM

LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:09 PM

Oh, I will. A legacy like mine cannot simply be allowed to vanish into oblivion.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:11 PM

Into the men's room, maybe.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 10:17 PM

If so, let's hope it is not the men's room at the Palace Hotel...

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 08:46 AM

All hail Marty - the cauda mundi of Mudcat. At leat my house is paid off, your's isn't.

Subject: RE: BS: Noted without comment (2)
From: Arne
Date: 24 Jan 06 - 01:06 PM

'Martin Gibson':

Like you, he makes mistakes.

Far more than I do. And I admit to mine. Not to mention, my mistakes haven't cost 2200+ (and counting) young Americans their lives and a trillion plus dollars that our children are being saddled with.

Like you, everything he does or says is not stupid or foolish.

Oh, really? Name one thing. I'm partial to "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" myself.

Oh, and a note the grammar (I'll not bother with your spelling in other posts): I suspect you meant: "not everything he does is stupid or foolish". If you really meant what you said, that's patently false (as is evidenced by my quote proffered above).

Cheers,