BS: Cloned Cows

Subject: Cloned Cows
From: mikesamwild
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 05:35 AM

I don't want every glass of milk to look the same

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: gnu
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 06:15 AM

Use a dirty glass.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 11:31 AM

"I don't want every glass of milk to look the same."

How have you been telling them apart up to now?

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 11:44 AM

lol

Actually, on the farm my mother was upset from time to time. She'd make a face and say in exasperation: The cows have gotten into the wild garlic again.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Paul Burke
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 07:26 PM

The problem isn't the milk, and it isn't the meat. They are (generally speaking, in the UK), safe enough. It's the ownership of the rights over the cattle. Genetically modified lines are subject to patent law, and can't just be bred like ordinary cattle, but fees have to be paid to the owners of the IP. The long term strategy of the patentees is to own the rights to the national herd.

The more present problem, right now, is the treatment of animals with hormones and antibiotics, which damage humans heath both directly (your children ingest the hormones via the cattle products), and indirectly (the stupid use of antibiotics prove Darwin right by promoting resistant strains).

When the next trade dispute between the US and Europe erupts, remember that the milk and meat here are still relatively clean.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 07:29 PM

Ha, I say. I had never heard of 'mad cow disease' before Britain's ordeal.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 07:43 PM

Mad cows and Englishmen....

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: GUEST,mark-s(on the road)
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 09:45 PM

I suppose they will all give white milk, which will be made into vanilla ice cream, and used to make ice cream clones.
Yeah, I know it's lame, but it's late.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Smokey.
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 10:22 PM

I had never heard of 'mad cow disease' before Britain's ordeal.

It was our own fault - we voted for her.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: frogprince
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 11:05 PM

Why do they call it PMS?


Because "mad cow disease" was already taken.

I know, I know; but I first heard it from the Prarie Home Companion movie, and I damn near split a gut.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: gnu
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 05:01 AM

Would a cloned cow be a devine bovine?

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 06:24 AM

A clone is not genetically modified. It is technically an identical twin of the original animal or plant.

Every potato plant grown from a seed potato are clones of the original plant which produced the seed potato. That plant in turn was a clone of an earlier potato and down the line perhaps hundreds of years.
Every Bramley Apple tree is a clone of the original tree that a cutting was taken from. The apples themselves are the product of a fertilised flower, so their seeds are NOT a clone.

As I understand it, the animals on whatever British farm were calves produced naturally. It is the mother cows which are clones of a particularly high quality milker.

I have more confidence in the cloning process than with some other things done in the name of science. If cloning is done right, the cells should be 100% identical with the original. If the cloning process isn't correct the cell doesn't survive, so there is no offspring at all. You either get a perfect copy or nothing.

Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Cloned Cows
From: s&r
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 06:39 AM

BSE was first identified in Britain in 1986. It was present in other countries at or about the same time; France chose to take no action for some years. Some info here

Stu