Ten Gallon Leiderhosen

Subject: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 08:35 AM

So, tell me how yodeling went from Leiderhosen in the Swiss Alps to ten gallon hats and chaps on the great plains...

Jerry

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 11:20 AM

Much of Texas was settled by Germans.

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: mack/misophist
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 01:38 PM

Not to mention much of Pennsylvania. And much of Missoura. It's as American as apple strudel.

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:32 PM

Same things goes for the German influence on music in Mexico - the Germans didn't settle only in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Their influence comes up in interesting places.
-Joe Offer, German/French/Irish-

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:34 PM

could have something to do with the open distances....

still trying to recover from the mental image of ten gallon leiderhosen. gurk!

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:57 PM

Worst part is ya can't get a good echo off of sagebrush or cholla cactus!

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 04:26 PM

Ya learn something new every day. I grew up in southern Wisconsin and wished it was impossible to yodel. I didn't realize that many Germans settled in Texas. Sure don't look like Germany down there..

Jerry

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Joybell
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 04:47 PM

There were very popular touring, yodeling, European singers in the 19th century. I have the names of a few somewhere. There are pictures in some of the 19th century sheet music data bases. Someone quicker than me will probably find them.

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 04:55 PM

Jerry...Go visit New Braunfels in central Texas if you ever get the chance...looks like a European village to this day.

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 05:08 PM

It's Lederhosen, not "leiderhosen".   No "i" in the word.

"Leder" means "leather; hosen is "pants", more or less.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 05:21 PM

"as someone once remarked to Shubert 'take me to your lieder' "...

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 05:27 PM

Jerry, as a student years ago in Austin, we used to sit in the beer garten outside Saangerrunde (sp?) Hall and listen to the local Sangerbund (Texas State group united nine districts in 1853, one extending to the Mexican border). German is still heard in New Braunfels, Fredericksburg, and other towns.

The major colony in central Texas was brought in under the auspices of Prince Carl von Solms-Braunfels starting in the 1840s. These were not poor immigrants; they had money and experts in geology and agriculture. Most came in the 1850s and just after the Civil War. Their descendants were and are still important in Texas. There was a German-English school in San Antonio and German and English were taught together at a number of schools in Central Texas (at least as late as the 1950s to my knowledge). The Turnverein Movement had established in Galveston, Houston, San Antonio and New Braunfels and other towns and cities in the 1850s, some chapters are still operating.

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 05:42 PM

Here are some fine yodelers. Don't see a pattern in home states
and none is from Texas (although Don Edwards lives there now,
he was born in New Jersey!).

Wilf Carter aka "Montana Slim" - Graysboro, Nova Scotia (CAN)

Douglas B. Green aka "Ranger Doug" - Great Lakes, Illinois

Jimmie Rodgers aka "The Singing Brakeman" - Meridian, MS

Don Edwards - Boonton, New Jersey

Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen
From: Wolfgang
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 07:37 AM

Since Dave has mentioned it....

'Leiderhosen' made me smile for the unplanned sense I could read in it: 'sorry trousers/pants'. I know some Germans who would agree that actually Leiderhosen is the better word for this article of clothing.

Wolfgang