BS: Justice For England, English protest songs

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: Jim Lad
Date: 09 May 07 - 12:19 PM

Anonymous for my own safety: The threads, above the line, are reserved for musical topics. A guest usurped this field in order to promote some kind of protest march. Given the history of such marches being a cover for racially intolerant groups such as "The National Front", many of us were somewhat suspicious and made things pretty difficult for that individual.
I am encouraged by the fact that so many of us have no time for such groups and put their own reputations on the line.
I am extremely saddened that some were offended by my own submissions and know that I have some serious ground to make up because of it.
British politics is not for the faint hearted nor did this topic ever belong on the music threads.
The moderators are simply on the wrong side of the Atlantic to understand what a minefield this subject is although, I do think that they should have caught on as it evolved.
If you have any interest in folk music at all then I suggest you get a handle, keep it and join in.
I am curious however, as to how you found this particular thread and this is the only one you have contributed to.
There are many, many, worthwhile music threads to follow, without ever going back into the archives.
Good Morning All!
from the dull grey Highlands.
Jim

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 09 May 07 - 12:52 PM

So do I have 'serious ground' to make up too? Don't think so and if I 'offended' a few proto-fascists, so much the better. I asked for the thread to be pulled in the 2nd post. As it wasn't, I continued in it from the point of view that the last thing English music needed was to be hijacked by the far right.

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: Jim Lad
Date: 09 May 07 - 01:00 PM

I only spoke for myself, Countess.
I stand by my earlier quote...
"For once, the Countess has nothing to apologize for."
Sincerely.
Jim

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: GUEST,Puck
Date: 09 May 07 - 02:00 PM

To HEED - There's a shame - poor ol' hard done by England!!

Teeny Weeney cheeselumps.

P

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: GUEST,Mr Gubbins (no, not that one)
Date: 09 May 07 - 02:28 PM

'last thing English music needed was to be hijacked by the far right.'

or the far left....

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: Jim Lad
Date: 09 May 07 - 02:57 PM

Let this one die & bury it where Heed will never find it again!

Subject: RE: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 May 07 - 03:01 AM

Well, I can't say I see much music in this thread, now that I look at it. Plenty of vitriol, as stated in at least one message above, but sometimes I stink some vitriol can be healthy...

Below, you go.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: Toobusybee
Date: 10 May 07 - 09:05 AM

Interesting? Thread, kept me amused in my lunch break

Just a couple of notes for Countess Richard - The Stone of Destiny (Stone of Scone) is now in Edinburgh Castle, has been since c1996

Telling John B (the assumed) Canadian poster to get out of the discussion if he knew nothing about the diggers - Why, because a person is not English (Scots, Irish, Welsh) assume that they don't know about this part of English (British)history? I studied history for my degree, including the English Civil War and the Century of Revolution and all my tutors were from the USA, and very good they were too.

Also (I know I'm on dodgy ground here)I would think that if Flora MacDonald's husband supported the Royalist cause in Scotland, just because it failed would not make him a republican, and therefore he'd rather have monarchist rule in America (just a thought). Don't forget, Cromwell never wanted to get rid of the monarchy, just Charles 1st.

Got to get back to work now.

Toobusybee

Subject: RE: BS: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: GUEST,Ned Quatermass
Date: 10 May 07 - 01:35 PM

now where were we?

Subject: RE: BS: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: Toobusybee
Date: 11 May 07 - 06:56 AM

I wasn't being vitriolic, just interested as it covered a period which I had studied. Although my office is pretty chock full of history graduates we're all rather busy to have more than 5-10 minutes discussions of anything that is not work related - luckily we do work in HE (not a university)and we bring in scholars from the Commonwealth so it's interesting to discuss some of the scholars proposed research topics.

Toobusybee

Subject: RE: BS: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: GUEST,Heed
Date: 11 May 07 - 09:53 AM

I though this had died! A few points:
1) One of the organisers of the Justice for England March, Ed Abrahams, is jewish.
2) Should all "right wingers" to be despised? Including those of the centre right?
3) Is libertarianism right wing?

I'm confused?

Subject: RE: BS: Justice For England, English protest songs
From: GUEST,Paddy
Date: 11 May 07 - 12:20 PM

The Liberals in Scotland are denying the Scottish people the choice of a referendum on whether they want independence or not! Some Liberals!