Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 02 Jan 11 - 06:09 AM This is to announce that I am now inviting submissions of non-English language shanties from Hugill, to include as examples in my YouTube playlist. There are some basic rules of engagement: The performance should have something to do with Hugill's text's version. The easiest thing is just to reproduce what appears in his book. In some cases however, it is arguably more authentic to make up one's own verses, delete versus, rearrange, improvise, de-code blue pencilling, etc etc. But if that is done, i ask that it be acknowledged while still engaging what Hugill set down, i.e. with reasons specified for the differences. I would not like a "Well, this is the shanty how *I* learned it" (without considering Hugill) because this is meant to be a critical engagement of Hugill's book and not just replication of now-established / popular versions. In my own attempts at this foreign (for me) language songs, I am basically playing it safe and singing what Hugill wrote! The other "rule" is that these should be unaccompanied / a cappella. So...if anyone would like to do one of the one's I haven't done yet, please get in touch! Of course, you could put it on your own YouTube channel...you don't need my stinkin' restrictions...but for other reasons it might also be fun and rewarding to file it into this 'archive' as part of the larger project. In which case I'd ask you to send me the video and I'll upload it via my channel (giving full credit, of course). I have started to do some of the Low German shanties. I imagine some of the French (I am terrible at it) and Scandinavian (hard pronunciation) ones will give me the most trouble, so those are especially welcome! Gibb aka Ranzo the Greenhorn |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 02 Jan 11 - 10:32 AM Most of the non-English language shanties collected by Hugill are found in his book Songs of the Sea. I've also enjoyed the variety of graphic illustrations that Stan sprinkled through that book and have had fun tracking them down to their sources. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:45 PM In terms of specific numbers, I have counted something like: 5 Welsh 11 French 13 German and Dutch 30 Scandinavian 1 Italian TOTAL = 60 That is only counting distinct "items" -- defined by their having an all-capitals title. There are many more fragments of non-English verse throughout. These are in only the unabridged version of "Shanties..." A number of them did turn up again in _Songs of the Sea_, sometimes edited down. |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 06 Feb 11 - 04:55 AM Here's a more official invitation for people to contribute their renditions of the remaining non-English language chanties. VIDEO |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 06 Feb 11 - 09:58 AM Gibb- I'm willing to lead some of the Ethiopian shanties. Of course the only work songs I know from Ethiopia are ones for hauling up false banana trees for transplanting, but they sound like halyard shanties. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 13 Mar 11 - 05:48 PM Bump! 43 chanties left. |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: open mike Date: 14 Mar 11 - 02:09 PM i would love to include some of these in my upcoming radio show which will feature 2 hours of shanties and sailing songs....the show will be archived so can be heard at any time....the broadcast will be on Apr. 9 2011 (I would love to get some on a c.d. for including on the show... any one able to burn some for this show?) |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 14 Mar 11 - 04:47 PM open mike-- Sure, you have my permission to play any of them on your show. I don't have any separate "CD quality" audio, however. The audio quality would be just as one hears on YouTube which, without the visual distraction, is sometimes quite bad. But if it works... If you're not sure about a way to download YT videos and get the audio, give me a list of some (say, up to 5) that you want and I'll rip the audio. If and when you decide to go that way, send me a PM. Gibb |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: shipcmo Date: 14 Mar 11 - 06:23 PM Gibb, How about some links to your latest YouTube entries? Cheers, Geo |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 14 Mar 11 - 10:47 PM Latest? It's been non-English language shanties. Low German: De Hoffnung http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VTGoqzIWu8 Wat Wi Doht http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sv6JmAuppY De Hamborger Veermaster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Ui-c24vxw De Runer von Hamborg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJ5299_Yv8 Roll The Cotton Down (No den Süden to) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ED9QUt3fhY Magelhan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bd6PEbMrU8 Magelhan (Original) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8vz5vL-Hrg Hu, Hu, Hu! (English version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQxEHP8mGk High German: Die Gute Alte Brigg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B68VE4TTDpM Es Gingen Drei Mädchen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqFSq0X1org Frisch Auf, Alle Mann an Deck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJnBmxIEqg Norwegian: Ane Madam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IZRt6jWO0M Go Rowing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFFeiv21mgA Opsang for Preciosa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6cfwQpSGs Ved Ankerhioning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEXucSV6DE En Jæger Gik at Jage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXm2E5KVU8 French: Ali Alo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTcowh7-afA As Tu Connu le Per' Lancelot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-euIVRWsV8 Those are all basically "by the book" since I don't know the languages well enough to improvise. My most recent English-language chanties, from other sources, in which I perform them personally (as a living tradition), are: Shiny O http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thCQlZ8cya0 Stand to Your Ground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh3ty1gGRUM |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 24 Apr 11 - 05:26 AM Latest installments: De Kock (Low German) Das Sampanmädchen (German Pidgin) Upidee, Upidah (B) (German) |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 08 Jun 11 - 01:00 PM Just a note to announce that, a little while back, I reach the milestone of learning/recording ALL the English-language AND all the German (Low and High!) songs/chanties in Hugill's collection. :D |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Jun 11 - 02:36 PM Gibb- So, can you make it to the Mystic Sea Music Festival this year? If so, when do you make port? Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Richard from Liverpool Date: 09 Jun 11 - 05:25 AM Gibb, Can I just say, what I love about the way you're doing this isn't just the fact that it's so complete and encyclopedic (which makes it a very useful resource), but also the way you're doing it in such an uncompromising way, as an unashamedly home made mission, and especially that you're getting all kinds of people singing along with you. You're not just keeping it back for the usual bunch of maritime reenactors, this is a living rendition of a living music. You have a mission to get your passion out to the world and you're willing to cause offence if need be. It's like punk shanty singing, and I love it. |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 13 Jun 11 - 02:06 AM Cheers, Richard! Thanks for understanding what I am doing. I would like to see shanties have a "clean slate" so to speak. We have much to be grateful for in the folk revival(s) for keeping interest in shanties alive, however there is also much that has transpired since the demise of shanties that practically compels us to envision them in certain ways. This is my effort from the sidelines to suggest other visions. Say hello to Lime St. for me! |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 19 Jul 11 - 04:09 AM Latest installments. Singapor-Sang [566-568] Hamburg, Du Schöne Stadt [564-566] Shiloh Brown [261] En Sjömanvisa från Kinakusten [569-570] Susannavisan (The Susanna Song) [116-117] Goodbye, Fare-Ye-Well (Norwegian) [124-127] Blow, Boys, Blow (Norwegian) [230-231] Julia [392] Blow, Boys, Blow (from Sång under Segel) [230] 34 chanties yet to learn! |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 03 Aug 11 - 05:52 AM Now grown to 3 playlists. PART 1 PART 2 PART 3 |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 03 Aug 11 - 09:01 AM Gibb- I didn't realize you were working up banjo accompaniment as well ("Go to Sea Once More"). That can be great fun even if the song is a dirge! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 03 Aug 11 - 04:03 PM Hey, Charley, That's the first one I recorded (and quite embarrassing)! It was before I started to do this as a "project." ...at which time I decided that any "true" shanties would be done without accompaniment, ha! The only other banjo ones are "Roll, Bullies, Roll" and "Blow Ye Winds." |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 03 Aug 11 - 08:02 PM Gibb- Working up an Irish style accompaniment with the 4-string banjo is still a nice thing to try with a lot of sea songs. I always loved the mandolin accompaniment for "The Handsome Cabin Boy" as recorded on Blow Boys Blow. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: DrugCrazed Date: 04 Aug 11 - 06:45 PM Part of me wants to do a folk song style project like this (I'm doing 30 Song A Day at the moment), so hats off to ye. I think a post uni (or last year of uni) project will be |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 11 Aug 11 - 02:41 PM Latest installments: Supen Ut, En Dram På Man Svineper Pumpe-vise Den Gamla Briggen |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 18 Aug 11 - 01:28 AM Installments to the Swedish series. Skonnert Albertina [327-328] Min Mand Han Var En Sjömand [529-530] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 18 Aug 11 - 05:17 PM Hey DrugCrazed, Can you direct us to a link to your project? Thanks! Gibb |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 03 Sep 11 - 04:47 AM Reuben Ranzo (Swedish) [243-244] Det Blåser Kallt, Kallt Väder Ifrån Sjön [543-545] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 17 Sep 11 - 04:36 PM Latest installments. Hourra, Mes Boués, Hourra! [137-138] Et Nous Irons à Valparaiso (Goodbye, Farewell - French) [129-130] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 02 Oct 11 - 05:14 AM 2 more down: Rosabella Fredolin (Swedish) [216-219] Haul Away, Old Fellow, Away (French) [362-363] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 15 Oct 11 - 08:08 PM Recent entries: La Margot [398-400] Där Gingo Tre Flickor [393-395] Passant Par Paris [414-416] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 02 Nov 11 - 07:59 AM New editions. Halarvisa [426-427] Le Grand Coureur [422-424] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 22 Nov 11 - 01:08 AM Poppin' fresh. Å Kom Till Mig På Lördag Kvall [427-428] Jean François de Nantes [446-448] Quand la Boiteuse Va-t-au Marché [514-515] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 22 Nov 11 - 10:39 AM Gibb- Keep 'em, rolling! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 22 Nov 11 - 03:39 PM 15 more to go!...unfortunately most are Swedish songs that don't stick in my brain. BTW, I've not yet mentioned my new blog here. It's the next go 'round the hermeneutic circle. Going through the chanteys now in order they come in SfSS, adding fresh info and understanding (or at least, attempts to understand). Wild Chants with Doggerel Words (blog) |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 24 Nov 11 - 05:19 AM Dare I mention William Main Doerflinger Cached YouTube page ? I can't look at YouTube here (hope it works) and I don't have my copy of the book to hand. |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 07 Dec 11 - 06:09 PM Two more chanties down: La Danaé [515-517] Skeppet Bernadotte [469-470] |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Dec 11 - 08:15 AM Nothing new or old from here in the West Indies. Time to return north to share the latest blizzard. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 10 Dec 11 - 05:07 AM Be sure to share your adventures with us, Charley! safe travels, Gibb |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 07 Jan 12 - 04:35 AM Been trying to finish these, hoping to get a countdown from the last ten, but more I hadn't noticed (and fragments) keep popping up! Well, here are some of the latest: Sicilian: Brindisi di Marinai Swedish: O Du Glade Sjöman Farväl, Farväl, Förtjusande Mö |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Big Al Whittle Date: 08 Jan 12 - 04:39 AM Wareham Whalers Durlston castle (Swanage) January 21stSaturday Shanty Workshops and Concert £6 |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Big Al Whittle Date: 09 Jan 12 - 10:49 AM refresh |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 12 Jan 12 - 03:54 PM En Ung Sjöman Förlustar Sig Vi Styrte Ut Över Atlanten |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: The Sandman Date: 12 Jan 12 - 04:58 PM Fastnet maritime festival june 15 16 17, Ballydehob, Dick Miles,Jimmy Crowley, Baggyrinkle Shanty Singers, and many morehttps://sites.google.com/site/thefastnetmaritimeandfolkfest/ Guests booked so far Jimmy Crowley Baggyrinkle Swansea Shantymen Trim Rig and a Doxy Andrew Mackay and Carole Etherton Dave and Helen Howard Dessi Redmond Dick Miles Rattlesnake County Free Spirit Devil's Water Henk Voss Compass Point Verna Connelly Capstan Full Strength Andy Kenna Hexham Morris dancers |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: GUEST,Nick E Date: 12 Jan 12 - 07:50 PM wow, a true labor of love. Tainted love perhaps but still an amazing effort. |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 15 Jan 12 - 03:25 PM Syng Höit Faleri Skön Jungfrun Hon Gångar Sig Till Högsta Berg |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: GUEST Date: 17 Jan 12 - 03:25 PM Amazing! |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 21 Jan 12 - 05:14 AM The archives are now arranged in 5 parts, with the contents corresponding to the parts of Hugill's book. PART 1 PART 2 PART 3 PART 4 PART 5 |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 25 Jan 12 - 02:27 AM Chanties! Ej Bör Vi Sörja, Ej Bör Vi Klaga Opsang For Jonas Anton Hjelm Siste Reis Det Hände Sig i Göteborg |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Charley Noble Date: 25 Jan 12 - 07:35 AM "High enough! Vast heaving!" Cheerily, Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: Gibb Sahib Date: 25 Jan 12 - 10:53 PM Just a few more "swigs," Charley! |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: John Minear Date: 26 Jan 12 - 06:52 AM More canvas! |
Subject: RE: Welcome to my Sea Chanteys/Shanties page From: GUEST,Ian Date: 26 Jan 12 - 07:31 AM 100 |
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