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WHITBY !!

GUEST 20 Aug 04 - 09:10 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 20 Aug 04 - 09:15 AM
Mrs.Duck 20 Aug 04 - 12:09 PM
GUEST,Linael 23 Aug 04 - 07:35 AM
GUEST,Phil h (at someone else's PC in Whitby) 23 Aug 04 - 08:13 AM
Herga Kitty 27 Aug 04 - 02:59 PM
croc 27 Aug 04 - 05:05 PM
shepherdlass 28 Aug 04 - 10:37 AM
GUEST 28 Aug 04 - 10:49 AM
GUEST,red and white rabbit 28 Aug 04 - 11:58 AM
Mrs.Duck 28 Aug 04 - 03:44 PM
Herga Kitty 28 Aug 04 - 04:22 PM
GUEST,Whitby Regular 28 Aug 04 - 06:28 PM
eerehs 28 Aug 04 - 06:51 PM
Herga Kitty 28 Aug 04 - 09:15 PM
ossonflags 29 Aug 04 - 01:12 AM
treaties1 29 Aug 04 - 06:04 AM
GUEST,red and white rabbit 29 Aug 04 - 06:24 AM
GUEST,harlowpoet 29 Aug 04 - 08:09 AM
gnomad 29 Aug 04 - 08:24 AM
Willa 29 Aug 04 - 09:08 AM
Michael 29 Aug 04 - 09:12 AM
Skipjack K8 29 Aug 04 - 09:35 AM
GUEST 29 Aug 04 - 10:22 AM
Oaklet 29 Aug 04 - 10:30 AM
Dancing Paddy 29 Aug 04 - 11:18 AM
Mrs.Duck 29 Aug 04 - 04:10 PM
Davetnova 30 Aug 04 - 03:47 AM
Red and White Rabbit 30 Aug 04 - 04:45 AM
GUEST,Selby 30 Aug 04 - 05:07 AM
Raggytash 30 Aug 04 - 05:24 AM
Red and White Rabbit 30 Aug 04 - 05:56 AM
GUEST,sweep/ bold slasher 30 Aug 04 - 05:57 AM
GUEST,sooty 30 Aug 04 - 05:58 AM
GUEST,ghost of Harry Corbett 30 Aug 04 - 06:00 AM
wigan 30 Aug 04 - 06:46 AM
GUEST,Les in Chorlton 30 Aug 04 - 10:33 AM
Rasener 30 Aug 04 - 11:18 AM
alanww 30 Aug 04 - 01:47 PM
GUEST,Rodentred 30 Aug 04 - 02:18 PM
GUEST 30 Aug 04 - 02:40 PM
BeekeeperFran 30 Aug 04 - 07:21 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 31 Aug 04 - 06:28 AM
GUEST,old git 31 Aug 04 - 08:00 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 31 Aug 04 - 08:18 AM
GUEST,graemeknights 31 Aug 04 - 08:23 AM
GUEST 31 Aug 04 - 12:18 PM
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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:10 AM

wearing you underwear on top of your clothes, see who looks the most ridiculous.
have a blues day everyone wears only blue clothes and sings poignant songs.
have a sunny happy day, everyone wear yellow or orange and sing songs like "I like to rise when the sun she rises"
names of songs in a hat everyone has to take a lucky dip (provide worms)
Play song charades, person who guesses has to sing first verse and chorus.
include the name of the person you want to sing next in your song


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 09:15 AM

Black Horse


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 20 Aug 04 - 12:09 PM

I am well known for wearing my underwear in the Tap and Spile but not usually so early (or late) in the year.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Linael
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 07:35 AM

Had an excellent couple of hours in the Frontroom of the Tap & Spile, Whitby on Saturday night (sang my ass off). Needless to say, we didn't feel particularly welcome! (There were nice people, there too and I am sure they'll forgive me.)
When we returned on Sunday to actually sing something, the little gang of Ego's who organise the "singaround" had made up "passes" printed with "Tap & Spile *Exclusive* singaround" printed on them. They then proceeded to explain that they were such good singers etc etc etc. My poor wife left in tears - I just wanted to smack someone in the chops. No wonder people hate folk singers.
I have learned some valuable lessons, however, and will impliment them when I start organising my own singarounds.

Cheers

Linael


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Subject: Price sisters
From: GUEST,Phil h (at someone else's PC in Whitby)
Date: 23 Aug 04 - 08:13 AM

Ruth Price & Sadie Greenwood were sublime (not my word, comment from another performer - but I agree) yesterday afternoon in the Albion Club. Whatever else you do don't miss the chance to hear the wonderfull harmonies of these two sisters from West Yorkshire, they're on again tonight (Monday) in the Albion club and tomorrow night at probably the best trad. singers concert of the week at the Rugby Club.

See the Ruth Price website and listen to some clips.


Phil


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 02:59 PM

Linael

I'm sorry you and your wife were upset because you didn't tumble to the joke about the season tickets for the Padget, Booker, McDonald, Knight singarounds (there were white day tickets too, for the people who arrived on Sunday afternoon after the pink weekly tickets ran out). All the singarounds that I went to in the Tap and Spile family room were genuine singarounds - Judie worked round the room, and went back to pick up latecomers, and explained where the singing was going.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: croc
Date: 27 Aug 04 - 05:05 PM

Thanks Judie and all for a great week singing in the Tap. You make us soft southerners very welcome. Great singing and great songs. I shall treasure the signing for the non- lancashire speakers for a long time. Wonderful stuff. I only wish I could bottle it to savour over the winter months. And yes, you are all great singers. A bit daunting that at first! Our friend from down here who experienced it for the first time this year thought he'd died and gone to heaven.   I'm only sorry I had to leave early and I won't make that mistake again.
As for exclusive, sorry Lineal but I can't see it. Judie runs the session fairly and with a sharp eye for who arrived when, but with limited time and huge numbers inevitably some people may have to wait for another day, especially if we arrive late. Sorry you felt left out but group jokes are not always obvious to the occasional visitor. That's life! You only have to ask. I did and all became clear.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: shepherdlass
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 10:37 AM

Sorry, but as a newcomer I also felt an element of exclusivity at some of the events (didn't get to the Tap and Spile so couldn't comment) - just an underlying sense of "You should know your way around or at least know of someone who does!". An impatience on the part of those I asked for directions, etc. There was nothing concrete, but I'd not like to be just dipping my toes into folk music at this festival - it would scare me off.

That said, there were some belting performances from the young players (Shonas Donaldson and Kipling were both stars), Pete Morton was spellbinding and there were so many other individual things I liked. Doc Rowe was, of course, great crack.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 10:49 AM

here is some good advice for those coming to Whitby next year do not get involved with the very nice exclusive ego gang in the Tap & Spile it's not worth it there are better things around.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,red and white rabbit
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 11:58 AM

please guest name yourself

there are many good things in whitby official and unofficial. I am one of the people who have taken malcolms shilling and work very hard all week to provide folk - in particular the children - with workshops for four hours everyday. I am also one of the people who you regard as the exclusive ego gang!

I hope people do find lots of great things to do in Whitby, the Tap and Spile is one of the fringe venues but no one forces any one to go there, stay or come back but many do! I know many people who love the Tap session and many who hate it.Both these groups of people are my friends but at least they all have the courage to say things to my face and not hide behind anonymity on Mudcat!

If you wish to encourage people to go to Whitby next year I am right behind you and if you have kids please come along to the childrens whistle and clogging workshops and I promise if I am there they will have a great time. Other than that let people make their own minds up - there is no need for us to snipe at each other - please remember one mans exclusive egocentric clique is another mans group of friends
Jude I am happy to call you a friend and you did a grand job with the singaround running.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 03:44 PM

When I knew noone in Whitby it was Jude and the so called 'exclusive crowd' that welcomed me in and encouraged me to sing (boy, do they regret that). Of course when you get people who go to anything regularly there will be 'in' jokes and silly events that may seem to newcomers to be exclusive as they didn't know beforehand what was happening. It's a bloody hard job to keep track of who's sung and who came in after their turn etc. and I think Jude, Jim and the others do it well!! Sadly we were unable to get to as many sessions as we would have liked because it does get very busy in there and isn't much fun for the littlest ducklings.
I had a great week though and talking of strange events in sessions you don't know I spent time in Jim Mageans maritime sessions and it was obvious that some folk go to it year after year and there were the 'in' jokes and themes that some weren't aware of beforehand but it was still a great session. Still a little bit unsure why Herga Kitty won the 'Bad Shit' competition though - I missed that day :0))


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 04:22 PM

Well, Jane, there should have been an "r" in it, but I don't understand how I won the bad shirt competition on Wednesday either! When I put my colourful new shirt on in the Endeavour, a lady sitting in the corner said "That's nice" ! I now have a duck of my own to feed - the Whitby Bad Shirt Duck, which has to be returned, full of money for the Whitby lifeboat, for next year's Bad Shirts and Shanties session...

I'm sorry you had to rush off on Thursday just as the singing reached you - but that's always the problem with popular singarounds and time limits!

Kitty


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Whitby Regular
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 06:28 PM

I didn't go in the Tap and Spile but the incident Lineal mentions sounds like a deliberate attempt to exclude outsiders designed to be passed off as a "joke" if anybody complains. I have never seen anything so blatent but the same underlying attitude exists in most singarounds. If you want a private singaround then hire a private room.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: eerehs
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 06:51 PM

TO ALL "CONCERNED" PARTIES
Re: Tap & Spile Front Room Singaround

This is a subject very close to my heart, I am that woman who stands at the door and stops everyone from entering "my front room"

So for all those upset annoyed and or offended people a short lesson
(no sorry to harsh a word) a short introduction to the Tap "etiquette" and "folklore" after which you will hopefully realise that we do not intend to offend when we say "sorry but you can not enter"

Let us take a short trip back to December 1994 when we first opened as the Tap & Spile we were visted be two very nice people who asked us if we would allow them to visit our pub over the new year with "a group of geriatric old codgers who like to sing"(their words) ok said we thinking that they were a couple of carers looking for somewhere to bring their charges for a day out in whitby. HOW WRONG COULD WE BE!

New Year 1994 - enter a wonderful group of people from all over the country who fell in love with our pub and us just as much as we fell in love with them. We had a wonderful few days and as they left to go their various ways they asked if we would mind if they came back to us for Folk Week in August and that was when our front room was given to them as "their" singaround room for folk week.

Since then these wonderful people have become an intergral part of the Tap & Spile - Folk Week - Moor & Coast Festival - New Year, this is a very special time we have a quiz or two a treasure hunt and more singing and new years eve is a themed fancy dress night we close the pub at 5pm and have a regulars only night (invite only) our whitby local regulars and our "folk" regulars have a great night together.
Over the years we have had special birthdays - weddings - births and sadly wakes all of which have cemented us as a "family".            

Anyway back to folk week and that so called "Exclusive" "Egotistical"
Singaround Room - They are more than happy for other people to come along and join them at either the afternoon or evening session and believe me there have been some wonderful sessions involving other singers who have been welcomed into the room - so much so that over the years some of them have enjoyed the room so much they have become part of the group and as such are welcomed back time and time again.

IT is a happy fun loving room - run by loving caring people!

Anyone who takes affront at how things are done here needs to take a step back and remember - this is a semi-private room - not fully closed and sensible restrictions are enforced - TO HOT - TO FULL-
ITS TO LATE - YOUR TO RUDE (unfortunately it happens) Then the dreaded words are uttered "Sorry room closed you can not enter"

Sorry if I have gone on but as I say a subject dear to my heart and as
others have said no-one forces anyone to come to us but those who do
and take the time to get to know us come back year after year and
we all have a wonderful time not only in the singaround in the front room but also in the musicians and singers sessions in the main bar
and in the singing session in the no-smoking room and we all love it when the dance teams come in and strut their stuff for us!

Come on guys lighten up folk week is about having fun and enjoying the wonderful sights and sounds where ever you choose to go and if you can not get into one then there are lots and lots more things going on all around town!


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 28 Aug 04 - 09:15 PM

Thanks Eerehs and Judie, for a great week in the Tap and Spile. The mummers' play, with Sooty, Sweep and Soo, and the Transpennine Ilkley Moor duet by Ron and Sid, were magic.

Kitty


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: ossonflags
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 01:12 AM

Well, them badges did cause some of us "Endeavour" stalwarts a few problems !!! Spent a good bit of my drinking/singing time explaining the finer points of running a singaround to certain people, having had no small experience in such matters.

"Guest", you do not say if you sing or play an instrument, but I would suggest that you do go in "search of better things" but when you do find them please inform the rest of us, or better still start your own session, then you will find out for yourself the damned hard work the likes of Jude, Sue, Jim and the rest of your so called "exclusive ego gang" in the "Tap" do to keep music live.

Mick McGarry


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: treaties1
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 06:04 AM

This year as always, I thoroughly enjoyed my visits to the "Tap"
The singing,the songs,jokes,poems,craic,laughter,iced gems and most of all the people, were brilliant.
Well done and a a big thankyou Jude,Sue,Jim and Ken for the long hours of hard work. Two sessions a day for all week takes some doing.
Love and hugs
Theresa


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,red and white rabbit
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 06:24 AM

I would love to take credit for running anything in the tap I merely go for fun and Mick thanks for all your support over in the endeavour

I had a great week and I hope the rest of you did - please can we move on now and and stop the snipes it is spoiling what should be happy memories.

can we have a nice comments only thread?


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,harlowpoet
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 08:09 AM

I went to some of the late afternoon sessions, and really enjoyed them. They were fairly run and it was good to see different people pop in and out.

My gripe was with another festival pub which kept having trouble serving me a full pint. On first asking them to top it up, someone else commented "You can tell he's a southerner!"


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: gnomad
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 08:24 AM

Let me tell you the story of the Paddington waffles; it's a true tale from early in the 20th century.

Paddington station in London is a pretty important place for transport even now, but back then it was also a great place for food (a concept any modern rail-traveller is likely to find baffling at best) and it was particularly noted for its waffles. At first people would buy waffles as they passed through, they enjoyed them and started making a pause in their journeys so they could be sure to buy some waffles, and maybe eat one or two on the spot while they were especially good.

Fame spread.

People began to choose a different route, just so they could pass though Paddington and buy waffles.

People began to make trips just to Paddington and back with waffles.

Then it all stopped. Paddington stopped selling waffles, not because they weren't good, or profitable, but because too many people wanted them, and the station couldn't cope.

Where was I going with this?

I am lucky, I get to the Tap most weekends and thoroughly enjoy taking part in the weekly sessions there. I know the front room, and the principal people involved in the "special" sessions on high days & festivals. It is a fun place to be, and I sometimes drop in and have a sing, but on the whole I don't. Not because I would feel shut out (I know I wouldn't) but because my getting in means someone else cannot.

So many people know of the sessions, maybe second-hand knowledge garnered from the net, that they feel they haven't been to Whitby unless they've taken part in the session. But an integral part of the experience is the fact that it is a relatively small room, with capacity restricted accordingly. So let's try to be grown up about it and share.

There are usually plenty of alternatives to the front room session. At what I guess was the time of L's disappointment there were seven (possibly more) other pubs in the harbour area where music and song were taking place free of charge or obligation. According to rumours there was a folk festival as well, with tickets, and smiling organisers, and camping pools.

I would urge both those who have been unable to gain admission, and those who habitually glue their backsides to a front room seat for the duration, to go out there and try one or more of the alternatives. You will almost certainly have fun, and find a session to suit you. Inevitably, some of these sessions have "in-jokes", including some that were old when the Tap was still the Cutty Sark, as both Mrs Duck and Kitty have found.   If that makes you feel excluded try asking what the joke is, you will probably be astounded by how full, and warm, a response you will get. Otherwise just kick back, relax, and enjoy.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Willa
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 09:08 AM

Thanks to all those (the majority) who've made positive comments about the T/S singarounds.

Like Jane, when I first discovered these a few years ago, I had only just started singing. I was included and encouraged each time I went and the T/S is now one of the 'musts' for me.

I saw the same happening this year- one or two hesitant singers who were encouraged and supported when necessary.

Because people come and go all the time, it can seem, when you enter, that the selection of singers is 'favouritism'- stick around long enough and you'll find the compere is picking up the stragglers. I've never known a new round start without the call of 'Anyone I've missed?'

Thanks, folks, it was great to share with you all again. I've already booked my B/B for next year.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Michael
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 09:12 AM

Also, to put this 'Tap & Spile' thing into perspective, there must be about 10, probably more, pubs in Whitby that have sessions of one sort or another as well as the ' Over 1000 hours of events' in the festival programme. So to complain that you didn't like/weren't allowed in to one room in one pub seems a bit un-necessary.

Mike


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 09:35 AM

I've made good on my promise in another thread to investigate Folk Festivals, and did a sample study in Whitby for four hours last Thursday night in two venues, the hotly debated Tap and Spile, and the Endeavour. I must say that I find it surprising that people have complained about door security in the front room when we had a genuine bouncer in a suit and tie in the back room keeping order and saying who should play what.

The Endeavour was an interesting den, though. There seemed to be one caballe barking in one corner, and a rival group elswehere instantly performing an 'improved' version, great entertainment for the tone deaf. Sadly I was losing my faculties to drink by this time, and was poured into a waiting taxi before I could ruin the entire evening with my enthusiastic aerophone repertoire.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 10:22 AM

Yes I did find somwhere better and no I wont tell you where,on the same basis as I was not welcome into your company,therefore you are not welcome in mine.
Please also remember the thread from the landlady is only so she doe not loose customers.
Also part of the Mudcat tradition is if you want it you can have annonomity.
If you watch closley you will see that the people involved on the charade that passes for a singaround in the front room at the Tap & Spile spoil every northern uk festival thread with their purile rubbish.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Oaklet
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 10:30 AM

Blimey!


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Dancing Paddy
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 11:18 AM

I spent most of the week in the Tap and Spile every night and lots of afternoons. The quality of songs and singers was wonderful,The friendliness of the people was also wonderful, both the singers and the bar staff. I never saw anything but fairness in who got a song and every time I was there I heard "is there anyone in the room who has not sung and would like to sing".
I think the job Jude and the others do is done very well and I have nothing but praise for them. More power to there elbows.

Paddy


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 29 Aug 04 - 04:10 PM

Oh come now, guest, we take our puerile rubbish all over the country not just to the North :0)


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Davetnova
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 03:47 AM

Well I only got down for the weekend (Scottish schools start back earlier). It was my first Whitby but I've already booked my weeklong dose of summer flu for next year. It was great.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 04:45 AM

well guest I am really pleased you found somewhere better - I hope we didnt spoil your week in Whitby and that you enjoyed the rest of your time there. Whitby is about having fun and I would hate to think that our purile entertainment had spoilt it for you. I hope you return to the festival next year with happy memories of what you did do and can seek out the same sorts of venues and people.

I dont think the landlady of the Tap needs to keep custom during folk week running out of beer and three deep at the bar is never a bad sign
I know a lot of people dont like the landlord and land lady of the Tap but they have always been good to me and I can only speak as I find.

I am sure you will manage to avoid us at the other festivals we ruin for you up north or elsewhere in the country. We would try to keep out of your way if we knew who you were but since we dont the onus is on you to avoid us - unless of course you wear a badge that says "angry guest from Whitby Thread"

( Raggy if you carry on with these annonymous inputs to inflame people I will refues to have your babies!)


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Selby
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 05:07 AM

Whitby is about more than the Tap and Spile, that is part of the Fringe not the organised Festival. There are to my knowledge other issues in other Fringe sessions and it is wrong to pick on the Tap, leave individuals alone concentrate on the bigger picture and get the thread back to WHITBY Folk Festival, not petty arguments about who did what in any fringe venue.You can always vote with your feet and wallet.
Keith (Selby)


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 05:24 AM

Susan ....... not guilty, this is the first time I've looked at the thread since before Folk Week and even now I can't see who's writing what, me thinks I have a virus
I am sure Jude, Ken, Jim and the gang know me well enough to know I call as spade a bleedin' shovel and would not put anything on as a Guest...... Furthermore how could I possibly slate the kindness of people who contributed so well to a collection for the Runswick Bay Rescue Boat (£30 in about 3 minutes)when you sang your song "The Eighth Wreck"


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 05:56 AM

Joke - Raggy!!

trying to lighten up an intense thread


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,sweep/ bold slasher
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 05:57 AM

squeak squeak squeak


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,sooty
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 05:58 AM


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,ghost of Harry Corbett
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 06:00 AM

Sooty said

I really enjoyed having Jim's hand up my bum and though I was kept in a box most of the week I didnt feel like shooting my water pistol once at anyone.


Ghost of Harry Corbett

Two previous posts were from Sweep and Sooty


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: wigan
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 06:46 AM

we went in't tap a few times,didn't like choice of music.went somewhere else. wot's the problem? also went in jollies, ship, horse, endeavour, middle earth, plough. allways found summat to enjoy. if you don't like one place at whitby,there's plenty others to visit.
had a good week. see you all next year


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Les in Chorlton
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 10:33 AM

6th Whitby and first for 21 years. Lots and lots of excellent music. Lots of incredible young talent. Loved it all. It seems much bigger than it was and lots more people play things. I went to the Gentle session in Middle Earth, packed to the pavement clearly a need for more of them. I also went to the quiet session with Mike?????? in the Rowing club, best session for learners, clearly a need for more like that. I went to some music workshops. With thw exception of the one led by Damien O'Kane it seemed unclear what was to be taught and music was unavailable. Very small gripes about a great festival.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Rasener
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 11:18 AM

Don't know what all the fuss is about, you should all be thankful that you were able to attend.

Friends of mine (39 years standing) who have put so much into the folk scene over the years, not through singing but helping at folk festivals, are unable to attend the festivals anymore due to ill health. What they would give to be in your shoes. They are also or were directors of the Warwick Festival.

Mike Guise is now blind and needs a kidney transplant and Barb is riddled with arthritus, which stops either of them being able to travel any distance.

I think anybody that is prepared to help at any festival or folk club deserves a medal, not criticism. They are the un sung :-) heroes that allow things to happen. Whatever they do, there will always be somebody who is not happy or thinks they can do it better.

As Abraham Lincoln once said "you can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time" :-)


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: alanww
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 01:47 PM

Sandy and I had a great festival in various singing and music venues, including one afternoon and three evenings in the Tap & Spile. The Endeavour and the Middle Earth were also excellent in the evenings and during the day the Conservative Club, Black Horse and Fleece were usually very good. In terms of the T&S, although I did not get an exclusive season ticket or day ticket and eerehs did exclude me one evening when I arrived at 10pm, I know that Julie does a brill job in running the SAR as fairly as it could be. The singing is also brill too!
Well done Julie and her assistants and well done eerehs in running a great pub, including having put on 700+ different real ales in 10 years!
I'll be back!
"Come fill up your glasses and let us be merry!"
Alan
PS It was also good to see many good friends, some of them Mudcatters and some of whom also went to the the T&S.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Rodentred
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 02:18 PM

Lots to do throughout the week and the Plough singarounds that I attended were very good this year. Like the music in the T&S but now I know where Whitby smoked kippers come from. Those that were in there all week puffing away will spend this week bringing up the phlegm - not for me I am afraid.


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 02:40 PM


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: BeekeeperFran
Date: 30 Aug 04 - 07:21 PM

Raggytash

I have a contribution for the Runswick lifeboat, how do i get it to you? Should have given it to you last week but enjoyed the beer etc to much.Congrats on winning the raffle, we know you appreciate it.

Cheers
Fran


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 06:28 AM

Fran

You're quite right, the raffle prize was duly framed in Whitby on Saturday, I'm now trying to find a bit more info to adhere to the back of the frame with details of the call-out, which I believe was to the "Corona" out of Scarborough, but I don't know dates, times, crew etc

I'll PM you later from home with contact details


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,old git
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:00 AM

Would just like to reiterate all the positive comments about folk week

Paul , I think you got it absolutely right...couldn't have put it better myself.....do you think we could have a waffle day at next year's Endeavour sessions?

For various reasons I didn't go into the singarounds at the tap this year...though I did drink several pints at the bar....in the past I have always been warmly welcomed...as someone who runs singarounds at several festivals I can only say that the one at the tap is probably the least exclusive i've known....except perhaps for mine!!!!!!
So come on Anonymous Guest , Lineal et al...chill out....remember we all indulge in this pastime to ENJOY ourselves....there was so much else going on that week.....the FREE concert in the church at the top of the steps on Wednesday night was brilliant...I heard Kevin AND Helen Mitchell sing in a session at the Endeavour......what does it matter if you don't get to sing at every session...it's just as good to relax , drink , listen to others and join in choruses...and relax and drink...and relax......
by the way Raggy..Graeme Knights has all the details about the circumstances surrounding the picture


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:18 AM

Sorrry

For everyone is doesn't know what the hell we're talking about, In the Endevour on Friday the main raffle prizes was a print of the Whitby Lifeboat in a storm on it's way to the assistance of the "Corona" the mount had been signed by all the lifeboat crew

Geoff

Graeme said he would contact me with details, as yet he hasn't been on, but I'm sure he will as soon as he can, it sounded like he has a hectic schedule this weekend so he is probably still recovering. However I would like to find details of the crew of the lifeboat who all signed the mount, one ........ Evans-Storr is probably related to the cox of the lifeboat which was lost in 1860 with the lives of 12 men

Cheers

Raggy


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: GUEST,graemeknights
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 08:23 AM

Hi Mr Raggy I can be contacted at yahoo.com for full details.
could post it here but that would be a real thread creep.

Many congratulations on your win and I am glad that an appreciative
soul such as yourself won it.

Grae


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From: GUEST
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 12:18 PM


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Charliestu
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 01:43 PM

From the crowd at FILO Folk I'd like to say that my legal staff will be dealing with the whole affair!!!! I am suing you all for damage of the tonsils, bleeding fingures, enlarged liver, etc, etc.

On Sunday, Glaisdale was brilliant, my kind of folk; first time I've been there since I moved here 20 + years ago.
The usual FILO Tuesday night was .....great!, eight until late, plenty food, plenty music and song beer wasn't too bad either! The throng that turned up really enjoyed themselves, but did others know of the venue? Thursday, Friday was just as 'bad'.
Unfortunately, like most places, there is a limited amount of space available so you've got to make the effort (and it's up hill, literally) and as usual it's first come first served!
Many thanks to visitors (you know who you are! - and so do we!) and to the local musicians alike, for all their contributions over the three main nights.
FILO Folk (First In, Last Out) has been going on for almost 2 years -a place where singers and musicians can be heard and you can sing what you want to sing and please yourself, literally. When in town come visit, if you want to "Folk for pleasure visit FILO Folk" every Tuesday.....................Toodle pip!

CS


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 02:33 PM

Raggy

Congrats on your win - the raffle in the Endeavour was, of course, in aid of the Whitby lifeboat, as were the collections made there during Jim's singarounds the rest of the week. The picture is a print of the painting done from a photo!

I'd like to say a special thanks to all those in the Tap who nobly dug into their pockets a second time on Wednesday night, after Raggy had left, when (as winner of the Bad Shirt competition in the Endeavour at lunchtime) I passed the Bad Shirt Duck round...

Kitty

PS Graeme - at some point I will bring the BSD to Herga. Perhaps for Dave and Anni next week.....


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Subject: RE: WHITBY !!
From: vectis
Date: 31 Aug 04 - 03:47 PM

Just got home from a wonderful week in Whitby followed by a bit of touristing in Yorkshire with my larger half.
Really enjoyed the T&S this year and had some wonderful sings there. Thanks to Jude, eerehs and the bench for keeping us all in good order. One of the LEAST exclusive and most welcoming singarounds I've been to as a point of fact!
The maritime sings in the Endeavour were not merely good but also raised over £1200 for the Whitby Lifeboat (singing with meaning or what?) Thanks to Jim and Graeme for the craic and the emptied pockets.
Too many to thank individually for hosting the various playarounds during the week.
See you all next year...
...if we're spared

Mary


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