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Getaway 2010 Program Planning

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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: KT
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 02:06 AM

Looks fabulous, Nancy! So many great choices! Thanks to you and all of the others for all of your hard work organizing! I bet you've even arranged to have the same weather as last year! Can't wait to see everyone!
KT


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 09:51 AM

Well, um, we can't guarantee the weather, but it's been absolutely perfect for the last two years, so we're hoping...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 10:28 AM

What is "Time Announced at Mealtime"--a clockwatching service? An exercise in relativity?


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 12:56 PM

LOL -- I was wondering when someone would ask about that. Should be fixed soon. That's the space for "Make Your Own Workshop" -- anyone who wants to have a session that's not on the schedule can use the Amani Lodge, which will be available all day. We'll announce such sessions at mealtimes, probably via whiteboards in the Dining Hall, as making actual announcements presents difficulties in that space.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 01:57 PM

" "Make Your Own Workshop" can be great...many years ago, Mark Gilston announced "Songs of Dismemberment", and a bunch of us sat on the grass for an hour, taking apart everything from little piggies to wayward sisters.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 06:00 PM

Thanks, gals and guys!

This is a year when I show up and practice the art of appreciative listening.

The Getaway is Good Medicine, and that is what I need.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 11:34 PM

One good time, as ordered for you, to be delivered at the getaway, Janie.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: KT
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 04:07 AM

Only one? I'll bet there are lots more than one!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 04:13 AM

The format of the C. Fox Smith Workshop will be similar to what I did two years ago but with some new information added on her life and poems, and with copies of the new songbook being available for sale. Anyone who would like to lead one of her poems as a song is welcome to contact me via PM and I will endeavor to reserve you a slot.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, still resident in York, UK


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:11 AM

" I'll bet there are lots more than one!"

"One good time" is like loaves & fishes.... it can be subdivided as many times as needed....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:18 AM

Okay, I need opinions.

Shall I send my trumpet on ahead?

I haven't practiced; in fact I haven't had time to touch it in months so my embouchre is non-existent. Moreover, I play from dots.

On the plus side, it prevents me from singing and it makes a great alarm clock.

I'll need opinions quickly, as I must send it off by Tuesday if it's going to come along.

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:40 AM

You don't need an alarm clock. And if you play Taps at sunrise many who just got to bed half an hour before may protest. But if you want to have it to hand for demonstration, or overwhelming others, or just fondling in your sleep, you should send it or bring it with.

A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: artbrooks
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 11:54 AM

Taps at 10:00 pm, reveille at sunrise, Amos. And if does either, he's dead meat.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 12:53 PM

Rap, Last year in the Saturday evening concert there was a MEMORABLE Duet for French Horn and Ukelele!!!! so what ever you do won't seem THAT strange!!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 12:57 PM

"Shall I send my trumpet on ahead?"

This is right beside water, so you should get a trumpet-marine


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 12:59 PM

I can play reveille on a soprano recorder.....but I know better than to do it.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 01:16 PM

The evidence for French Horn and Ukelele is Here


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 02:28 PM

I'm having serious back problems so I may have to come in an ambulance.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 09:32 PM

Can I drive the ambulance, Capt'n???

Nevermind...

Seems that every year there is some schedulin' conflict with me getting there until Saturday and this year will be the same...

Thinkin' about the Saturday night concert... Might wanta do a Bobert surprise??? I donno...

Be nice if I could play my cigar box Lowebow thru a real amp??? Sho nuff would... I mean, there are instruments that are definately "folk instruments" that just need to be amplified... The Lowebow is one...

Anyone think that would be okay??? I mean, hey, I play concerts and festivals with it amped and folks love it... I donno... Love to bring it and let it rip...

Glad to see that KT is coming... Hope she'll bring Eb with her... That would make it fir me...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 09:50 PM

Is that like an oboe?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 09:55 PM

Oboe, my butt, Rap...

This is the meanest, primitive stringed instrument on the planet...

b~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 10:11 PM

"...This is the meanest, primitive stringed instrument on the planet..."

No it ain't bobster... *I* have that. I think I'll bring it, and slides of the guy who made it.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Martha Burns
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 12:26 AM

I've been setting aside things to place in the silent auction. Does anyone reading this know if items of clothing are admissible?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 12:29 AM

We have had clothing in the auction before - no problem for us. Bring what you can.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 12:59 PM

Is 20 kilos enough ginger?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 01:42 PM

I'm really looking forward to the "Singing to the Choir" workshop of songs to encourage activism, justice work, etc., with Sally Rogers. Among other things, the Getaway is a pretty amazing choir!

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Sandrolin
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 05:31 PM

the Getaway 2010---Pre event (thursday)
news update about the Pre-Getaway Crab Feast doo ..at Gene & Sand'ras --
Sorry not this year...;-(---- too many obstacles and clouds got in the way...
(Keep hocking us a chinook about next year) --- the dust will have settled, the carpenters will FINALLY have GONE HOME--- and our no rain dance will guarantee crabs and a cacophony of lovely
musical jam ---


all nighters see you in the jammie room---
Sandrolin


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 05:42 PM

At Hocking point there are no Chinook salmon...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 12:15 AM

Terry Silver is safe and in Laurel, MD and was quite a hit at the Laughing Man Tavern Shanty Sing.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 10:07 PM

Did you say The Laughing Man Panty String?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 30 Sep 10 - 10:32 PM

Terry Silver and Severn Savage, now there's a pair of jokers and no mistake.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 07:31 PM

Could I encourage people to capitalize the name Chinook as it is the name of a people..and have fun at the event. (I live on the homelands of the Chinook people). mg


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Susan of DT
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 09:17 AM

As usual, Nancy and committee did a wonderful job.

There was some talk Sunday and Monday about the possibility of having a designated ballad room that ran all day or all weekend at the next Getaway. Wouldn't that be wonderful. Both ballad sessions this year were full. At the first one in the smaller room, most, but not all, who wished to sing had an opportunity to do so, but at the one on Sunday in the Retreat Center (a large room), maybe a quarter of those who wished to sing got a chance. There was also talk about having the ballad session (if we don't have the all day plan) run in the slots that end a half hour before lunch or dinner with the possibility of not ending it after the hour. I vote for the ballad room.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 09:39 AM

I think that's a fine idea. It would, of course, mean that some would move between workshops and miss parts, and thus might try to sing the 4th version of "Young Hunting" in 30 minutes... *grin*...but we could deal with that.

Ballads are a special case due to the length of some and the predictable discussions and comparing versions, so I quite agree that a longer time period in a dedicated space would be nice.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 11:28 AM

Thanks for the feedback! All these (and many other) suggestions will be considered as we plan for next year's Getaway.

Ballads do present a unique problem for our scheduling, and we've gone back and forth about how to do it. Sometimes we've had two one-hour sessions (as this year), and sometimes one longer one. Neither seems to satisfy everyone. A dedicated space is certainly something to consider, but might present problems in finding a willing facilitator. We'll see how it goes. Stay tuned (as it were...)

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 11:45 AM

A rotating shift of facilitators could turn it into a day-long event into which those wishing could drop at will.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:00 PM

Nancy et al-

I like the idea of a continuing ballad session. This time around I really hesitated to lead a long ballad given the obvious time limitations/other people interested in leading one.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Maryrrf
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:09 PM

I really like the idea of a dedicated ballad room/session that could go on all day, or at least part of the day. I think for facilitators you could enlist volunteers to do shifts. The ideal would be to hold it in a fairly quiet place (i.e. not the old Dining Hall) - maybe one of the cabins? Yes Yes Yes to a dedicated on-going ballad room.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:15 PM

I'd thought the same, Amos - sounds like a great idea to me.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:21 PM

They might want to keep a list and turn it over to their relief to avoid repeating all two hundred verses of "Fair Rosemary's Three Handmaidens and the Priapic Knyghte"...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:29 PM

THREE handmaidens? There were five in the version collected in Lower Suffix by Percy's assistant.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 12:41 PM

An All Day Ballad Room would be a good idea , WITH A list to avoid too much repitition through the day .


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:37 PM

You all have come up with a really good solution. Ballads and time-clocks are antithetical. Ballads are meant to while away a long winter's night, and as Sheila Kay Adams says, can easily have 99 verses. If the words are audible, these long stories in song would be well worth hearing and enjoyable in a relaxed setting.

Some editing on the part of the ballad singers (and chantey and pub and, and) would be good though. Some verses don't move a story forward and are merely repetition. Hearing, "I went to the East...tidy tidy tum, I went to the West, tidy tidy tum, I went to the North...tidy tidy tum", etc -- for ten minutes is boring even if we are doing a chorus, no matter how much time is allotted for the workshop.

We are fortunate to have a number of people at The Getaway with deep knowledge of ballads and who are skilled at singing them. We have more people who want to get to hear some of these and who know one or two they'd like to do themselves, but they shy away from getting "stuck" in a ballad workshop knowing their chances of actually singing one are pretty nill. Your ideas would fix that dilemma.

On a different note: I heard a comment that, "The Getaway was wonderful, but I'd have liked it more if there had been more Blues and/or Bluegrass".


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:55 PM

Why not have a designated ballad room (or dedicated for all one afternoon, anyway) with workshops on different styles mixed in with "general" ballad workshops or mini-concerts? Old-Time Ballads (i.e., hillbilly music) vs. British singing styles (of ballads) vs. sets by ballad singers (Carolyn or Elizabeth LaPrelle) vs. blues ballads, just to name a few possibilities.

It's a suggestion, anyway.

Bob


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 01:58 PM

There are NO problems with the program planning that making the Getaway a week ( including BOTH weekends ) wouldn't help...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Linda Goodman Zebooker
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 02:18 PM

We can try Bob's idea out at the 2011 FSGW Mid-Winter Festival in Takoma Park on February 5. They used to have an all-afternoon Blues room, and for the last couple of years there's been an informal Old Timey jam all day in the hallway. Ballads in depth...I really like this.

Stay tuned, and mark your calendars. It will NOT snow, it will NOT snow, it will NOT......


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 02:35 PM

Blues and Bluegrass are niche phenomena often found in the heartof the Peace Cabin where they come out to graze between sundown and sunrise.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Genie
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:08 PM

I like SongBob's suggestion too, as "ballads" is a really huge category.   
One way to deal with lists might be to have a whiteboard or sheet of newsprint at the side of the room where someone could write the name of each song after it's done (if someone was willing to play scribe). That way a newcomer wouldn't have to start into "The Four Marys" only to be told that it's already been done.


Oh, and, Bill D. ("I can play reveille on a soprano recorder - but I know better than to do it.)
I can play the entire "Stars & Stripes Forever" on a kazoo too. But I also know better ...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:26 PM

LOL...but *I* can hit notes that will have all the dogs in 2 miles howling...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2010 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 07:14 PM

A few years ago did a 'shared' singaround at a small festival - I kept a list of everyone who had performed in my hour , but the other lad didnt ! IF a list is beng kept , it HAS to be kept by whoever is running each period religiously and accurately !
And 200 B T W LOL


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