BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?

Subject: BS: Estaban Guitar vs. Martin D-45
From: Dewey
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 03:50 AM

Does anyone actually own an Estaban Guitar that the QVC lady claims to be equal (in most respects) to the Martin D-45.

The QVC informercial asserts something of the following:

Their's has lovely rosette, our's has lovely rosette. Their's is hand made, our's is hand made. Their's costs thousands. Ours is three payments of $66.00.

Wow!

Plus you get the dvd, and Estaban your smiling instructor (God's gift to Music) proudly seated, arms folded in reverance of his mighty abilities.

And you also get to watch the great master as he tries to disturb this beautiful and priceless instrument: The "gift of guitar!".

His gift EXCLUSIVELY to the rest of us.

Anyway, is this Plywood Job even playable or audible? Or whould it make a better boat paddle?

The "Master" (Estaban) plays and recommends it whole-heartedly!

Dewey

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 05:03 AM

Seems that I recall Roy Clark pushing something similar, but I've never seen him play one on The Opry and I always wondered "why not?"

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: kendall
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 05:08 AM

You may have noticed that this plywood abomination is always plugged into an amplifier. If he loves this thing so much, why doesn't he sell his Martin and just play this thing? The comparison is silly. Look it up on google and see what its competition says. It's plywood crap, pure and simple.
"Hand made" by whom? Gorillas?

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 10:44 AM

"It's plywood crap, pure and simple."

So it IS just like every other Martin out there then...

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Amos
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 11:55 AM

CLinton:

Know you're messing with my religous beliefs, man. Knock it off!!!!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 12:01 PM

"Know you're messing with my religous beliefs, man."

Just 'cause you say it with exclamation marks, don't make it mean sh!t to me...

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 12:06 PM

Of course Clinton Hammond has a problem with Martins.

His best stuff is obviously played on a Stella C.1962

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 12:09 PM

Best stuff?

Don't you have to have GOOD stuff before you can have best stuff?

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: frogprince
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 12:11 PM

Someone linked to a whole ream of customer feedback on
that instrument a little while back; sounds like it would
fall apart in your paint-stained hands (with the little cuts
on your fingers from the frets) before you could paddle the
canoe 50 yards. You might want to try to find some of the
reviews for laughs.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: dwditty
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 01:40 PM

Esteban will go down in history with Zamfir and Box Car Willie.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 01:47 PM

Lucky bastard then!

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: kendall
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 04:28 PM

He does play quite well, too bad he's destitute for money.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Oct 04 - 04:31 PM

Hey, don't knock the late, great Boxcar Willie.

He could sing a mean train song.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 04:59 AM

do people watch QVC?

I don't know anybody who does

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 08:11 AM

I always thought you could go down with Box Car Willie. Sounds like an interesting social disiese...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: GUEST,Midchuck who upchucked his cookie
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:02 PM

What's the difference? All wood guitars are obsolete.

(I just got a CA a couple of weeks ago and am still going through new-owner's euphoria. A couple of weeks from now I'll deny I said that. But they are great instruments.)

(My cookie is gone 'cause I just downloaded Firefox and am just starting to use it. Seems to work good. Muck Ficrosoft!)

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:23 PM

One cannot make a good musical instrument outa plastic...

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Mooh
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:33 PM

CH...I used to think that until I got a plastic shaker egg. Damn good!
Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Tweed
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:43 PM

I must OBJECT!! This thread is obviously not bullshit and has musical connotations. Where is Joe Offer?? Somehow the universe has gone off kilter down here! Somebody help me,...the room is spinning..blood is pouring from my eyeballs....arghhhh...gahhhh

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Midchuck
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:47 PM

One cannot make a good musical instrument outa plastic...

So I assumed for many years. Now I have one. Have you actually played or even heard a CA, or is your mind made up and you don't want to be confused with facts?

But that's OK. As long as a lot of people keep thinking the way you do, the demand won't get too large and drive the prices up. But don't get hurt trying to ride your horse on the interstate.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 01:54 PM

I havn't been close enough to one to have played it yet, but I have heard them... They sounded like cheep Ovations to me (to rhyme with sounding like cr@p)

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: DADGBE
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 02:38 PM

Here's a piece about Esteban Guitars (sic) copied from the Rock and Roll Confidential Forum on line. They'd be a lot better if the damned things were made out of actual plywood...


So-called "Guitar legend" Esteban was stripped of his legendary status this week when it was discovered that he is an entirely fictional character created specifically to sell pressboard guitars in infomercials.

Allan Holdsworth, guitar legend and president of "Real Guitar Legends For Truth" released a statement on Monday calling for the immediate cessation of all applications of the appellation "Guitar legend" to the television character known as "Esteban". According to the statement, "Esteban is a fictional character created by L.A. session guitarist Dan Fernaueu for the express purpose of marketing a cheap, poorly constructed guitar-like instrument on the Home Shopping Channel."

The scandal intensified when the Recording Academy revealed that claims that "Esteban" had won "several Grammys" were false.

These charges come on the heels of last month's statement from the Musical Instrument Manufacturers Association that the "Esteban" guitar could not, in fact, be classified as an actual guitar due to the fact that it is constructed out of reclaimed materials such as discarded telephone directories and medical waste. The MIMA demanded that the instrument be classified as a toy.

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 02:45 PM

If Esteban ain't real, then life ain't worth living!

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: dwditty
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 03:04 PM

Midchuck!!!! What now to do with my Collings 000?

dw

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 03:50 PM

Comment ca va?

Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45?
From: Midchuck
Date: 06 Oct 04 - 03:58 PM

I can't speak for you, diddy, but I'm hanging on to mine - I can just be a little more choosy as to where and when I play it.

Peter