BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:44 AM

The behavour is getting progressively more severe. I honestly believe that serious psychological problems are behind it, in conjuction with worsening dementia.

For example look at the number of times the word liar is used.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 11:52 AM

The part of me that still regards Keith as 'one of us' - a mudcat mate,
sincererely hopes he is having apropriate medical check ups and treatment...

My mum was put on tablets as soon as dementia was diagnosed,
which may or may not be acting to decrease the severity of gradual decline...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 12:41 PM

I think you will find Punkfolkrocker that you are a member of a VERY small club. Like most people on here I am tired of the deceit, the duplicity, the moving of goal posts, the denials, the blaming of other people for things posted and the outright lies that culminate from of of these.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 12:41 PM

"Liar Dave,"
Stop this now Keith
You have habitually filled your posing with lies and distortions - nobody else has
You claim nobody has responded to yo - that is a lie
The fact that yo7u don't like the answers you have been given doesn't men that nobody has answered you
If you want examples of your lying try your serial denial of your "implant" claim
You said it - the you claimed you didn't say it (you doi this regularly)
Then you said you only said it because somebody said it was true (nobody ever has apart from the BNP and other racist organisations)
hen asked to provide an example of somebody saying it you say you already have (you never have because no respectable personality would ever have made such an illegal comment publicly
"keyboard diarrhoea." just about sums up your contributions to this forum
"I have never made any statement about "all Muslims."
See what I mean How many times have I put your quote up and how many times have you gone through the string of justifications I have just described
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 12:42 PM

Oh I forgot to add both the victimhood and the me, me, me mentality.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 01:50 PM

Liar Dave, I have not and would not imply any of those things.
If I did, quote me, liar.

On this thread both you and PFR have made offensive posts.
They contained offensive language.
You had to apologise Dave.

I have never made an offensive post.
If I have, quote me liar.

You have made offensive posts.
I never have.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 01:53 PM

See what I mean, THREE "liars" in that one.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:09 PM

"Liar Dave, I have not and would not imply any of those things.
If I did, quote me, liar."
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
From: Keith A of Hertford - PM
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 07:10 AM
Don, no one on this thread has claimed any of those things.
Don I do now " believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency" but only because of the testimony of all those knowledgeable people, and always acknowledging that only a tiny minority succumb.
Do you dismiss all that just because it does not fit your preconceptions, or do you have some powerful evidence to the contrary that you have not shared with us?
"I have never made an offensive post.
If I have, quote me liar."
See above
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:23 PM

Jim, I said I believed a cultural explanation.
I had quoted 5 knowledgeable people who gave that explanation.
All 5 were Left Wing.
Three were Labour polticians, two being MPs representing large Pakistani communities, the other being a Pakistani Labour activist given a peerage.
Three of the five were themselves of Pakistani heritage.

My question at the time was what superior knowledge did you have to dismiss their view.

There is nothing offensive in that. Those people's views were widely reported at the time.

So, you had to go back SEVEN YEARS and you still can not find an offensive post from me.

Dave and PFR have made offensive posts on this thread in recent days!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 01:39 PM

"Jim, I said I believed a cultural explanation."
You said
" believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency"
Are you suggesting you didn't say this?
"I had quoted 5 knowledgeable people who gave that explanation."
You have claimed to have put up quotes of your prominent people making this statement -
You didn't - you lied - you have just said you never made this statement - you lied - you said you have never made an offensive statement - you lied
You could have ended this long ago by putting up quotes of prominent people claiming "implanted tendencies - you never have and you never will
Your postings are a string of permanent lies - and you dare to call the rest of us liars!!!!
You are joke
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 01:42 PM

"and you still can not find an offensive post from me."
Are you suggesting that describing Muslims as implanted perverts isn't offensive - whoever said it?
You put it up as your opinion - you are offensive
You said similar of Irish Children and Travellers
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:02 PM

" believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency"
Are you suggesting you didn't say this?

I did say it. I said I believed it " but only because" those people gave it as their view and they were better placed than any of us to know.

Their views were not considered offensive and were widely reported.
It is not offensive to say I believed them.

Why did you not believe them?

Now, have you found an actual offensive post made by me, preferrably not from over 7 years ago!

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:05 PM

Are you suggesting that describing Muslims as implanted perverts isn't offensive - whoever said it?

That would be offensive.
I would never even imply such shit.
If I did, quote me liar.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:16 PM

This is getting tedious again so it is probably about time we wound it up.

I readily admit making deliberately offensive posts and have explained why. I then realised that it was the wrong thing to do and apologised, not because I 'had to' but because I wanted to and it is what normal people do when they know they made a mistake. Yet another Keith alt truth that I find offensive.

The phrase that started "I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to" has quickly become "I have never made an offensive post" in the hope that people would not notice. Because when you realise you have made a mistake you desperately seek for a way out instead of just admitting it. Yet another alt truth that I find offensive. Seems to be Wheatcroft moment there.

Keith, you are not only still digging but you are burying yourself in the mire. What will be next? You never post anything that eminent living historians with a centre display in Waterstone's would find offensive I suspect.

You lie, cheat, change the rules, whinge about how badly you are done by and how nothing is ever your fault. Have you not even had the slightest inclination that you are the only one who thinks this way? Still, like I said, keep digging. Maybe you will go so deep that you will never return.


We can but hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:23 PM

On a more serious note, not that I expect a straight answer. How can you in all honesty say "I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to" when it is so blatantly obvious to any interested observer that you have made dozens of posts that many people have voiced their objections too? In other words, your posts have caused people to object. You are not making any sense at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:31 PM

Could I suggest increasing dementia............

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:51 PM

Keith - wot.. me offensive...!!!?????

You clearly mistake tuff luv from one of your few last remaining mudcat mates
who can just about tolerate you,
as 'offensive'...

Consider our posts of the days since you have been back as an 'intervention'...

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 02:55 PM

"That would be offensive.
I would never even imply such shit.
If I did, quote me liar."
Don I do now " believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency" but only because of the testimony of all those knowledgeable people, and always acknowledging that only a tiny minority succumb.
The minority you refer to succumb to grooming underage girls to have sex - which is what the discussion was about
That is not "implying anything - it is saying it outright
Apologies on a postcard please - I think not!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 03:48 PM

Dave,
You lie, cheat, change the rules, whinge about how badly you are done by and how nothing is ever your fault.

If I lie quote me, liar.
If I cheat, quote me liar.
If I have changed any rules.... huh? You are losing your tenuous grip on reality now!

"I have posted nothing here that anyone could object to"

You people object to being questioned or disagreed with, but otherwise I post nothing objectionable.
Quote me if I have, liar.

Pfr,
Keith - wot.. me offensive...!!!?????

There is offensive language in some of your anti-Tory rants.

Jim, it was not offensive of those people to give their view based on their intimate knowledge.
It was not offensive for me (and most of the nation,) to believe them.
Why did you not?

Subject: RE: BS: Sexual impropriety at Westminster
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Mar 18 - 03:51 PM

Three more "liars" ..................