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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 16 Sep 25 - 09:50 AM Well Dave, at least you are no longer fined for not going to church. Improvements, if not amendments, have occurred. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: meself Date: 16 Sep 25 - 03:26 PM The coverage of this Charlie Kirk thing on the American channels is really too much; it's been almost non-stop for days. I get that it may have more national significance than some run-of-the-mill barroom brawl gone wrong, but, ffs, the guy was no Martin Luther King Jr, or JFK. Time to move on. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: The Sandman Date: 16 Sep 25 - 04:06 PM could the israeli secret service be responsible |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Sep 25 - 04:07 PM It's a race to the bottom for role models for the far right. With no oversight on hate speech in any of the social media platforms it's open season on the truth, and the right is making the most of that. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 16 Sep 25 - 04:59 PM The administration has asked for people to snitch on anyone who celebrated the Kirk killing. Employers of those who celebrated are then pressured to fire those celebrators. Hundreds have already lost their jobs over their comments about Charlie. This resembles what the early Third Reich did over the killing of a minor Nazi. The memorials and the Grand funeral seem similar to me. It serves as a justification for a purge. snitch nation |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 17 Sep 25 - 03:44 AM No one in the UK has been fined for not going to church since before the US was created, Don. What are you on about? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Rain Dog Date: 17 Sep 25 - 06:55 PM From The Guardian US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence I have been reading a lot of Orwell this year. Worrying times. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Sep 25 - 07:20 PM Pull out a copy of Sinclair Lewis' It Can't Happen Here. I thought it was prescient in the first Trump administration. This time it is stunningly on point (published in 1935). |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: The Sandman Date: 18 Sep 25 - 02:36 AM Trump cannot legally serve another term, the people who control power behind the scenes are not going to allow it. Trump is just a puppet, after him there will be another one |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 18 Sep 25 - 07:23 AM Trump cannot legally serve another term Yet! |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Nigel Parsons Date: 18 Sep 25 - 07:48 AM I've just re-read the 22nd amendment. As the law currently stands President Trump cannot stand for a 3rd term as President. It does not appear to prevent him standing as vice-president to someone with less than 6 months life expectancy. (Yes, highly unlikely, but possible). |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 18 Sep 25 - 12:08 PM It's dreadful to see King Charles appeasing Trump in order to get favorable treatment on the illegal tariffs that Trump is imposing. If our Congress would do their job none of this would be happening. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 18 Sep 25 - 12:32 PM SRS, whilst I don’t like it, when a country like the UK is heavily dependent on another like the US, then the necessity for ‘Diplomacy’ occasionally involves some butt-sucking. ‘Twas ever thus, and likely ever will be… |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Doug Chadwick Date: 18 Sep 25 - 01:04 PM ........ then the necessity for ‘Diplomacy’ occasionally involves some butt-sucking. ‘Twas ever thus, and likely ever will be… Yes, but it's still embarrassing. DC |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 18 Sep 25 - 01:56 PM Did I say otherwise, Doug? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 18 Sep 25 - 04:10 PM Yes, but(t), it's not quite all bad and the whole article is worth reading: Amid Trump's biggest, best state visit ever, the King delivers a pointed message ... "It was also truly historic, with Trump becoming the first US leader to enjoy two state visits. "Then the monarch stood to address the guests, who included tech giants and the media mogul Rupert Murdoch. "'Mr President, from York to New York, from Birmingham, England to Birmingham, Alabama, we are united by a common language and shared heritage,' the king began in one section of his pre-prepared remarks. "So far, a little cliched perhaps, but uncontroversial. "Then things began to shift. "He lauded the two countries' 'closest defence, security and intelligence relationship ever known', and referenced their alliance in two world wars. "'Today, as tyranny once again threatens Europe,' Charles said. "Trump's head swivelled to look up at his host. "That was the point it became clear Charles wasn't just serving up niceties. "Along with the Hampshire watercress panna cotta and organic Norfolk chicken ballotine was a rather pointed message to his guest. "'We and our allies stand together in support of Ukraine to deter aggression and secure peace.' "Then the body language got even more interesting. "Turning ever so slightly towards Trump, the king said, 'And our AUKUS submarine partnership with Australia sets the benchmark for innovative and vital collaboration'. "Kaboom. "The king has a long tradition of putting his foot in it, but this was no blunder. "It was a carefully choreographed moment. "It was tiara diplomacy, as the Americans like to call it, at its best." ... |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Aethelric Date: 19 Sep 25 - 03:39 AM Dealing with Trump is like dealing with a naughty five year old with a machine gun. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 19 Sep 25 - 08:31 AM Stilly, BWM: The main shark in the UK/USSA soup is what everybody keeps calling the "special relationship". I wonder how many people realise why Churchill used that expression: he was thinking about GCHQ when it was still called Bletchley Park, and the way it helped set up the corresponding organisations in the States*. These days, the UK and US secret organisations are interleaved and intertwined to the point of incest. The only way to find out which organisation any particular operative looks to is to discover which country's secret budget covers their pay. And *that*, mesdames et messieurs, is what the Special Relationship really means, and therefore why (eg) Starmer's nose is so brown. .... But I've probably said all this before. * The NSA's very existence was an official secret for half a century. Tom Lehrer's alleged involvement with the Manhattan Project was the cover story which could be told, and be believed. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 19 Sep 25 - 08:45 AM On the news behind me as we speak: The kerfuffle about ABC (USSA) being threatened with closure 'cos Diddums got satirised on The Late Show. Has nobody told the Brat-in-Chief about the Streisand Effect? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 19 Sep 25 - 04:46 PM I hope someone has told Trump and the GOP "be careful what you wish for." This all needs to seriously bite them in the asses. Though she isn't signed on the free-standing website, Rebecca Solnit posted a portion of this long think piece on her Facebook page. On the Party of Narcissistic Inequality. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 20 Sep 25 - 06:17 AM From Tom Adelsbach, on FB… :-) :-) :-) https://www.facebook.com/reel/1498345908165809?fs=e&fs=e |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 20 Sep 25 - 06:34 AM Funny, BWM! |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 20 Sep 25 - 09:01 AM Talk about a think piece, when narcissism is concentrated with enough ego, it seems to collapse into a black hole of ego. No light escapes, but it has a gravity that draws even more egos into its maw. There is so much polarization in political issues today that the issue is not debated but the MAGA authority simply presumes lunacy in its protestors and detractors who need some sort of help, punishment, or even death for the homeless. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 21 Sep 25 - 11:23 AM The two sets of lyrics were moved over to the "Songs for Age of Trump (protest/anti Donald Trump)" thread. Thanks, Donuel! The whole of the Trump cabinet is going to mourn and make much of the late Charlie Kirk at a memorial in Arizona today. I wonder if they chose a "designated survivor" - in which case, I wonder how they chose that person? Meanwhile, Trump has nominated one of his young blond darlings to the job of top prosecutor in the Virginia office that is now trying to prosecute the woman who won the case against him, NY State attorney general Letitia James. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Rain Dog Date: 21 Sep 25 - 12:15 PM Will Laura Loomer be reading the eulogy? Crocodile tears will be shed. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 22 Sep 25 - 09:24 AM Just seen some of the funeral shenanigans on BBC News. I was reminded of other Shenanigans in Nüremburg back in the 1930s. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 22 Sep 25 - 05:46 PM Jimmy Kimmel reinstated after hundreds of stars back free speech "In short: US comedian Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show will be reinstated after being taken off air, following remarks he made referencing right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. "Hundreds of celebrities signed an open letter backing Kimmel and free speech. "What's next? Jimmy Kimmel Live! is due to return on Tuesday night, US time." |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 22 Sep 25 - 05:52 PM He is saying that various journalists and critics have hate in their hearts. At the Kirk funeral, he says he won't forgive and hates his opponents. He is making the world in his own image, crude, greedy, and intrinsically mean. It feels like the opposition to Trump lacks the magic glue that held the '60s together. Does he control God, money, and digital propaganda as the magic glue that holds MAGA together? Perhaps the 1st amendment is the glue that we have left, for now. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 22 Sep 25 - 09:59 PM Many talking heads today are saying that Trump is doing unprecedented things, but they are not surprised. It got me thinking what would surprise these folks. 1 Trump introduces burning at the stake for capital punishment. 2 As an anti-DEI gesture, he removes the statue of the Indian from atop the Capitol dome and replaces it with a statue of himself. 3 Trump has Vance prosecuted for treason and installs Donald Trump Jr. as Vice President. 4 Trump appoints an empty seat, honorary Jesus Christ as a Supreme Court Justice. Only he can hear Christ's decision. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Sep 25 - 12:26 PM Well, his speech at the UN made about as much sense a paracetamol causing autism... |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 23 Sep 25 - 02:00 PM Errrrmm, ‘Tylenol’ Dave - he couldn’t pronounce ‘acetaminophen’… |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 23 Sep 25 - 11:38 PM Of course it’s nothing more than another ploy to distract attention from those Epstein files. He’s bricking it… |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Aethelric Date: 24 Sep 25 - 03:10 AM He is using the whole Jimmy Kimmel episode as a distraction. He hates people who hate people! |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 24 Sep 25 - 06:54 AM He rolled back the laws of property discrimination which will allow redlining and refusal to rent or buy based on race. With all the science cuts, the cleanup of polluted sites are stopped because testing is unaffordable. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 24 Sep 25 - 08:59 AM The past can not be changed, only lied about. The present is full of regret and loss. ONLY the future has the promise of solace and defeat of organized crime. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Lighter Date: 24 Sep 25 - 03:25 PM For insight into the President's thought processes, read his complete remarks on autism and Tylenol: https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-health-autism-white-house-september-22-2025/ |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 24 Sep 25 - 04:35 PM The Donald looks more miserable all the time now, to my eyes. It might be his edema or possibly neuropathy of the lower limbs. He certainly sounds more miserable and vengeful. The bully might feel like the courts and free speech advocates are bullying him. He is even scolding his AG and other loyalists. What this can do to his blood pressure is not good. Perhaps he will get some rest and relaxation during the upcoming government shutdown. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 25 Sep 25 - 07:14 AM America's zombie democracy https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/09/america-authoritarian-regime-ai-suicide/684350/ |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Sep 25 - 07:41 AM Lovely poem cropped up on my FB feed today. It is by Americal Poet, William Stafford. I don't know when he wrote it but it is very apt for today Learning A piccolo played, then a drum. Feet began to come — a part of the music. Here came a horse, clippety clop, away. My mother said, "Don't run— the army is after someone other than us. If you stay you'll learn our enemy." Then he came, the speaker. He stood in the square. He told us who to hate. I watched my mother's face, its quiet. "That's him," she said. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Sep 25 - 10:22 AM Excellent, Dave. Pity the nation. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Rain Dog Date: 25 Sep 25 - 10:52 AM "The past can not be changed, only lied about." Not true Donuel,as you well know. The past is always being reassessed as new information comes to light. Granted that not everyone will agree with every reassessment. The question then becomes why do any of us believe the things that we do believe. PS For all the talk of fake news media how come nobody disputes the sport scores? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 25 Sep 25 - 11:47 AM Unless someone has access to the TARDIS, the past cannot be changed. Our knowledge of history can be changed, and there are some people who can influence our perceptions of what happened by putting their own spin on it. While Trump is in power he can influence our perceptions of history but as soon as he loses that power there are other powers who can change the perceptions of *his* history - or he succumbs to his medical conditions and falls off his perch. Watching clips of his speech to the UN this week, I think he has managed to change his own history in the eyes of the world and its leaders, and not in a good way. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Backwoodsman Date: 25 Sep 25 - 11:55 AM He only ‘changes the knowledge of history’ in the minds of the idiots who fall for his BS, Helen. He hasn’t ‘changed’ a single thing in my mind. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 25 Sep 25 - 03:04 PM Yeah but, BWM, I believe every word he says! Do you believe me when I say that? LMAO When I said "our knowledge of history can be changed" I was referring to scientific and analytical discoveries which can give us more insight into what actually happened, e.g. archaeological discoveries which reveal more specific information than we already had, or other evidence of more recent world events. As an example, the information about Project 2025 and also his Big Beautiful Bill revealed more specifically what Trump's aims and ambitions are in this Presidential term. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 25 Sep 25 - 03:47 PM I'm not trying to invade this discussion with archaeological content, but here is an article which shows what I mean. It is worth noting that the conservative politician was arguing against the Referendum which proposed giving a political and social voice to our First Nations people and unfortunately - IMO - the proposal was rejected: Gerard Rennick (an Oz politician] says there's no archaeological evidence to prove Indigenous Australians have been here for 60,000 years. What are the facts? ... "'It's interesting, when I grew up, I was told that the Aboriginals were here for 20,000 years, then it got extended to 40,000 years,' Senator Rennick said, asking where the evidence was for a 60,000-year timeline. "The senator went on to say he was not questioning whether bipeds (animals that use two legs to walk) had been in Australia for 60,000 years, but that he thought it was 'stretching the truth' to 'claim that a particular race has been here for 60,000 years, when there's no actual archaeological evidence to prove that'." ... "According to historian Billy Griffiths, specific archaeological sites and timelines for the arrival of humans in Australia were debated by archaeologists, but 60,000 years was 'not a contentious date'. "'There are now several archaeological sites over 50,000 years old and one that is dated at 65,000 years ago (Madjedbebe),' he told CheckMate in an email." ... Dr Ford [an associate professor of archaeology at the University of Otago in New Zealand], meanwhile, noted it was 'not unusual for dates to change, particularly as dating techniques have improved over time'. "'Science is constantly moving forward,' she said. "'Much of the debate about modern human origins in Australia is fed by and feeds back into our understanding of global modern human expansion and this field is constantly changing.' And Dr Griffiths told CheckMate: 'It's not about stretching the truth or changing goal posts. Science, like history, is an ongoing inquiry. Knowledge is ever evolving.'" ... My comment: So knowledge is ever-evolving, except when self-serving politicians and their cronies try to stifle scientific investigation in the pursuit of their own nefarious ends, e.g. the scientific development of vaccinations. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 25 Sep 25 - 05:29 PM Report to world... Here comes the great Trump Purge on Friday. Between Hegseth's order to the entire military that has never been given before, and Trump's promise of mass firings while refusing to negotiate regarding a government shutdown, something big is up. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Sep 25 - 11:00 PM I heard a good review of a news site - I'm looking into it now; it seems to be an aggregator (that says it isn't an aggregator) with a rating system that evaluates the lean of the sources. Ground News/about. The Mission statement says: Ground News isn't a news source bound by the political leanings of our writers or parent company. Ground News isn't a news aggregator, throwing hundreds of headlines at you that barely skim the surface. Ground News isn't a fact-checker, because we believe in empowerment, not enablement. We are a guide for news readers. Neutral in assessment, efficient in consumption, all in service of empowering you to make educated decisions for yourself. Below it are links about their vision, principles, why, who, and how. "How" tells us: By threading multiple perspectives from thousands of publications through one, reliable information platform, Ground frees people from algorithmic restraints, illuminates blindspots and makes media's implicit biases explicit. It offers people the confidence to trust themselves and the time to put their knowledge to use. It's our belief that well-informed people will choose to do the right thing - nudging need not apply. That's why, in the name of more cooperative forward progress for all, Ground is on a mission to well inform the world. The world's first Information Utility, Ground delivers your news, their news, all of our news so we can think freely - again. Sounds like an algorithm to reveal algorithms. Is such a thing possible or trustworthy? Does anyone here use the site or the app? Too good to be true? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Donuel Date: 26 Sep 25 - 08:57 AM I do not expect the unprecedented military gathering to be a Wannsee Conference of ultimate evil, but it may serve to expose any generals who are not 100% loyal to Trump's orders. recently... Journalists are forbidden to report on any Pentagon business unless they report what the Pentagon orders them to report. In four or more days, some of this mystery may become less opaque. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Sep 25 - 12:07 PM From an opinion piece in the New York Times about Google's search engine: This is a perilous moment to be granting one company this much control over global access to knowledge. The Trump administration is conducting an assault on free speech, distributing lists of banned words, detaining and imprisoning students for speech it disagrees with and persecuting the news media and comedians for being insufficiently sycophantic. Google Wins, We Lose, guest essay by Julia Angwin. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Thiel coup 3 From: Helen Date: 26 Sep 25 - 07:02 PM James Comey has been indicted just days before the 5 year time limit runs out. Donald Trump warns 'there will be others' after James Comey's indictment "In short: Donald Trump says there could be more charges made against political figures. "He has pushed for charges against former national security adviser John Bolton and Democratic senator Adam Schiff. What's next? A legal expert says opposing Mr Trump or his administration now comes 'at grave risk'. ... "Mr Comey, who was indicted on charges of false statements and obstruction of a congressional proceeding, led the FBI when it began an investigation into ties between Trump's 2016 campaign and the Russian government. "Mr Comey has professed his innocence and vowed to fight the case in court. "The indictment marked the first time the Trump administration used the power of criminal prosecution against a prominent adversary." ... |
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