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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 22 May 10 - 08:12 AM Heck, not to mention Richard Nixon, for that matter... That's how far the right has come in it's move to turn back the clock... I'm just wondering what year they would be happy with??? Maybe 1860??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: mousethief Date: 22 May 10 - 05:07 PM I've long said the Democratic party of today is at the same point on the left-right scale as the Republican party of 1972, and the Republican party of today is at the same point on the left-right scale as the John Birch Society of 1972. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bill D Date: 22 May 10 - 05:22 PM I don't spend as many hours on this as I once did, and I have a craft show coming up that demands my attention, and I had almost forgotten this thread, as I had avoided it once it became a Bobert/Sawzaw ping-pong match... but I will note that BB refreshed this thread 'primarily' to show that someone DID use 'KKK' in the same way HE used 'brownshirts' to title HIS thread. In that he is correct, and I dearly wish NO one would resort to those uses of terms to imply things that aren't true...(I note that *I* posted up there ^ that it was very doubtful the KKK was involved.) This being said, it doesn't justify BB using similar tactics, and just plays into HIS assertions that there is a double-standard.(He misuses the argument, but no one...including Bobert...should give him any ammunition to use it at all.) Does the old adage "Two wrongs don't make a right." mean ANYTHING to anyone...Bobert..beardedbruce? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 22 May 10 - 05:41 PM There's a big difference here, Bill, that I think you'll see if you look at some basic facts... Fact: I started a thread about the Tea Party in terms of how similar it is to the KKK Fact: One of it's darlings from Kentucy who was backed by the Tea Party folks for the US Senate has publicly stated that it is the right of any business owner to refuse service to anyone that business owner doesn't like... Fact: these were the arguments made by the Woolworth's of the US in the 1950s... Summation: Yes, there are similarities between what those in the Tea Party believe and what those in the KKK exposed some 60 years ago Now as for Obama being a Nazi: Fact: George Bush started two wars, one definately a war of choice meaning that it wasn't necessary... From those wars upwards of a million people have been killed... Fact: Hitler and the Nazi's also killed alot of people... Upwards of 8 million people Fact: Obama has not started any wars... Summation: Looking strictly at the murdering of people, George Bush can be compared to Hitler and the Nazis... Obama can't... So, bottom line, unless there is something missing in my logic it was perfectly okay for me to equate the Tea Party to the KKK and illogical for bruce to equate Obama with Hitler or the Nazis... Further more, there is one right winged TV guy, Glen Beck, who has been pushing his followers to do as bruce has done in trying to frame Obama as a Nazi... Furhter summation: This isn't about tit-for-tat... It's about a concerted effort by the right wing to put moderates and progressives on the defense... Oldest trick in the book... It won't work... Obama is no more a Nazi than Ann Frank yet there is at least one Tea Praty Senate candidate who has publicly stated positions very similar to those of the KKK... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: mousethief Date: 22 May 10 - 05:50 PM George Bush started wars The Nazis started wars ------------------------ Therefore..... George Bush was a Nazi? The logic is sadly lacking here. Fallacy of the undistributed middle term. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bill D Date: 22 May 10 - 06:16 PM "Fact: I started a thread about the Tea Party in terms of how similar it is to the KKK.." Sorry Bobert, but I don't buy that one....you'd have to stretch the metaphor pretty thin to sell it. While I totally agree with most of your ideals and positions, you can't just refer in an off-hand way to a presumed connection like that. Do the Teapartyers and the KKK have 'some' similar logic and 'some' similar attitudes? Sure....but that wasn't clarified OR explained sufficiently in your first post. "Hating Obama" is 'maybe' true of some of them, but even that, IF it were true, doesn't raise it to KKK status. You can't get so outraged that you resort to tossing off the wost label you can think of, or you end up playing THEIR game. THEY call Obama names and make stupid references...and as long as THEY are doing it, WE can shame THEM. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 01 Aug 10 - 08:33 PM Well Well Well After Bobert done worked his poor typin' fangers down to tha bone trying to paint the Tea Party as racist killers, tha NAACP has undone all his all his good work. Maybe his Breitbart style hit job will work on some other group that he hates like Fox. The Washington Post: The president of the NAACP affirmed that the Tea Party movement is not racist. His organization urged Tea Party leaders to publicly condemn the movement's racist elements -- which the Tea Party Federation did almost immediately. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 01 Aug 10 - 08:46 PM Michael Gerson??? Holly molly... Now here's a real open minded individual... Not... Do you know who Michael Gerson is, Saws??? But, hey, if the Tea Party wants to denounce racism that's a great start since it is composed mostly of folks who have had hatred of black folks passed down from generation to generation... Yeah, I think the Tea Party, sans the rednecks and Jim Crowers, might be a party with whom alot of folks could relate... Not me, of course because I don't think that it is all that easy to lower the federal profile without addin' another 10% of the population to the poverty ranks... b~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 01 Aug 10 - 09:39 PM Now after Bobert has failed his mission, he attacks the person instead of the facts. Ad hominem logical fallacy 101. Howdy Doody could do a better job of analyzing the information. But that is typical of people on "your side" |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,TIA Date: 02 Aug 10 - 06:47 AM Hmmm. This is certainly the language of a bigot: "But that is typical of people on "your side" " Remember the infamous "you people"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 02 Aug 10 - 08:20 AM What, TIA??? Saws a "bigot"??? lol... Actually, we didn't have folks routinely callin' one another "bigots" here in Mudville until Saws decided that folks who disagree with him are "bigots"... Personally??? I'd rather go back to the old days when folks were a little more civil, Martin G being the exception... I mean, I have no problems with the term... It's just when it is used personally here against other members it shuts down discussion... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 07 Aug 10 - 01:56 PM The "your side" is adopted from Bobert's frequent use of the term. He usually says "yer side". So if my use of the term is a sign of bigotry so is Bobert's use of the term. Bobert: "you've chosen yer side" "Yer side has been shown to be on the wrong side " "he is hurtin' yer side big time" "As far as debating points, this is a "zero" for yer side." "maybe you think that yer side is pulling its wieght" "it is yer side that is busily tryin' to do the revsionism" "All were in response to yer sides relentless PR drumbeat" "our side just happens to be skunkin' yer side" "If there's any racism here it's on yer side" "yer side is filled with porclamation but short on facts" So which "side" is TIA on? Or is it bigoted to be on one side or the other? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 07 Aug 10 - 02:02 PM Well Well Well. It looks like a lot of people are tryin' ta undo Bobert's heroic efforts to brand tha Tea Party as a bunch o' racist killers. Which side is this guy on anyway? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Amos Date: 07 Aug 10 - 02:07 PM Maybe "jingoist" is a better term. BEsides--people don't usually 'fess up to racism. However it is [pretty clear, Sawz, that this guy and those he is speaking to don't qualify as racist. That does not mean that some Tea Party sects haven't been pretty slanted and vitriolic. I think the Coffee Party has a much better approach. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 08 Aug 10 - 09:48 AM Yeah, the Tea Party has been challenged to denounce racism by the NAACP and their response??? Nuthin'... And more nuthin'... BTW, I don't see usin' the term "yer side" as being racist or bigoted??? Just reality that there are two distinctive camps in this country... One is pro-human... The other is pro-corporate... I don't need to point out which side I'm on and which side folks like Sawz are on... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 10 Oct 10 - 02:24 PM Yeah, the Tea Party has been challenged to denounce racism by the NAACP and their response??? Nuthin'... And more nuthin'... Webb appeared on the CBS program Sunday morning to announce that Williams and the Tea Party Express -- which has held a series of events across the country to generate support for the movement -- no longer were part of the National Tea Party Federation. "We, in the last 24 hours, have expelled Tea Party Express and Mark Williams from the National Tea Party Federation because of the letter that he wrote," Webb said of Williams' blog post that satirized a fictional letter from what he called "Colored People" to President Abraham Lincoln. NAACP President Ben Jealous met Williams' statement by telling CNN, "Good riddance, Mark Williams." But he praised Tea Party activists like Webb, who is African-American, for standing up and "self-policing" their movement. "As the movement grows up, you have to act responsibly and they have to keep doing what they just did to Mark Williams and make it clear there is no space for bigots here, period," Jealous said. Please pay attention Bobert. Also I did not say using the term "your side" is racist or bigoted. Tia made that assertion. Certainly to claim one person's use of the term is not bigoted but that another person's use of it is not bigoted, is bigoted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Amos Date: 10 Oct 10 - 02:26 PM Dates, Sawz? Or don't you believe in them? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 10 Oct 10 - 03:20 PM "Last night, a member of the National Tea Party Federation communicated our decision directly to a member of the leadership team of Tea Party Express. That leader's response was clear: they have no intention of taking the action we required for their group to continue as a member of the National Tea Party Federation," the Saturday press release states. "Therefore, effective immediately the National Tea Party Federation is expelling Tea Party Express from the ranks of our membership." "You are the only national Tea Party leader who I've seen come out and publicly state the things that you've stated. And taking on Mark Williams was much appreciated," Jealous said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 10 Oct 10 - 03:26 PM Dear Amos: Do you ask Bobert for dates? Or do you require dates from certian people and not from other people? Are you some how biased and not really fair and balanced after all? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,Bobert on the road Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:29 PM You are a total ass, Sawz... When you use the term bigot to mean anyone who disagrees with you or points out there are different sides of issues you are all but calling Dr, Martin Luther King a "nigger"... The term ain't for your racist side to go throwing 'round... You haven't paid the price to be able to use that term... You are a disgusting racist for trying to co-opt a term that one heck of a lot of folks spilled blood over... But like I have pointed out to you before: Take this thread to a professor or race studies... They will try to get the concept into your racist head... Square business... Right now??? You sound like the Grand Wizard of Mudcat... A real certified racist ass... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: GUEST,Bobert, on the road... Date: 10 Oct 10 - 08:32 PM BTW... The reason you won't take this thread to a professor on race studies is because you are a coward and don't want someone who understand the struggled of the civil rights movement or the historical significance of the word "bigot" to tell you exactly what I have been telling you... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Amos Date: 10 Oct 10 - 10:17 PM Sawz: Oh, get real. Don't double-down on being a dipshit. If you post something you think is going to make Obama or anyone else look bad, but it turns out to be "news" from a year ago, you end up looking a fool. If you include the date at least it is possible to assume you are trying to be honest. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 11 Oct 10 - 07:58 AM You have described Sawz to a T, GUEST, and perhaps revealed your own feelings on the civil rights struggle... BTW, I have pointed out to Swaz on many occasions that throwing the term "bigot" out lightly disrespects the folks, myself included, who were/are part of the struggle to overcome our racist history... I thought that the message had gotten thru to Sawa, et al, 'cause it's been awhile since he has used the word so cavalierly... Guess that isn't the case... Ain't no middle ground here... Just like white folks called black folks nigger... Wrong is wrong... BTW, GUEST... Me thinks that yo are either Sawz (which wouldn't surprise me), another racist or someone who has clearly not read all of this thread... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: theleveller Date: 11 Oct 10 - 08:29 AM The Tea Party have formed an alliance with the nazi group The English Defence League. If it talks like a nazi, acts like a nazi and has friends who are nazis, in my book, it's a nazi. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/10/english-defence-league-tea-party |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 11 Oct 10 - 10:33 PM too busy to answer one simple question??? I must have missed it Bobert, What was the question? And why are you using the racist word N****r again and why are you trying to say I said it? Please define a bigot. Here is my definition: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. Amos: "If you include the date at least it is possible to assume you are trying to be honest." Tell that to Bobert. "understand the struggled of the civil rights movement" I think the Republicans who finally overpowered the racist Democrats struggled to get the civil rights laws passed and then the the bus riders struggled with the racist Democrats in the south who fought the new laws. Good job, the racist Democrats were defeated at last and Dr King could say "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!". |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 11 Oct 10 - 10:57 PM I've defined "bigot", Sawz, but fir you I'll define it again... In spite of Webster's pre-civil right's movement definition a bigot is someone who pre"judges" people based on those people's race, religious preference or sexual orientation... Those are "bigots"... For anyone to think they can just throw around the word "bigot" to anyone who disagrees with them is shamefull... But, no... It is beyond shamefull... It is a "bigoted" ***response" to the people who have worked so hard --- and put their lives on the lone --- to fight the good fight for ***civil*** rights... It is like calling Dr. King or Medger Evers niggers... In short, people who have not put any peas in the pot, I mean, walke0d the walk, gone to jail (both of which I have done) for the struggle of civil rights have not earned the right to use the word "bigot" against anyone... Period!!! You walk the walk then you have ***earned*** that right... But, more importantly, when yo use it you have the real life experiences to understand that we don't just go throwing "bigot" around lightly... It is a special word that conveys a special kind of prejudice and intolerance... Not just disagreements over health care or taxes... This is why I will fight you or anyone else who routinely throws this word out to mean any disagreements over policies or politics... It is a word that those of us who have been on the front lines in our lives are not willing to turnover to right winged idealogues either here or anywhere without a major fight so... ... ya'll can keep fighting to co-opt it and I'll continue to call you down on it as long as there is breath in my body... Ain't yer word!!! Especially they way you think it's okay to co-opt it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Oct 10 - 01:14 AM "who pre"judges" people based on those people's race" That is precisely what you did when you indicate "a bunch of white people" hate Obama. What does white have to do with it? "have not earned the right to use the word "bigot" against anyone... Period!!!" That is so wrong in so many ways. You are determining other people's rights? Get a grip. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 12 Oct 10 - 01:42 AM "The reason you won't take this thread to a professor on race studies is because you are a coward and don't want someone who understand the struggled of the civil rights movement or the historical significance of the word "bigot" to tell you exactly what I have been telling you" Take it to whom Bobert? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 12 Oct 10 - 07:51 AM Ain't pre-judgin' on my part, Sawz... We ont the left have seen this movie before... No!!! Not just seen but been in that movie... Ya' see, (and this is something you can't understand because you have not been in the middle of that movie) there is a lot of code words that people of "hate" use over and over and over and so having been thru this in a very involved manner when we hear these words and phrases the "red light" lights up automatically.... Phrases like "get the government out of our lives" has racist code drippin' all over it... It is the same language that the Klan and John Bircherd used in the 50s and 60s... Exact same... Hmmmmmm??? Talk of succession??? When did we last hear of that and what was implied there??? So, it isn't "pre"juding" you are hearing from me.... It is a well earned bias... Bias's are learned... I mean, we put our hand on a hot stove and get burned so we don't repeat that... That, in essence, is a learned bias... So, yeah, you have my full permission and blessing to say that I am biased when I see a band of white people who are using phrases and/or behaviors that are the exact same as their daddies and grand daddies used to fight against racial equality... I will own up to that... But I really don't expect you to have any understanding because, no offense, but you are ignorant to these things... It's a lot easier for you, and lots of other white people, to sing the fight song that is put in your heads by the powerful and rich who want to stay that way and use divisive issues to do exactly that... Too bad for you... I mean, you argue so forcefully but when it comes to having any understanding of the realities of the civil rights movement yer tank is empty... Square business... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Oct 10 - 02:00 AM "a band of white people" Racist statement. Take out the white and put in b***k and see how it plays in Peoria. Did you take an acid trip on da bus? 'Cause your brain has molded itself to the 1960s and that bus like a fried egg stuck in an ungreased skillet. 50 years has passed Bobert. Time to catch up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 13 Oct 10 - 07:47 AM Taken completely out of context, Sawz... Try again or include the rest of the post... Man, you are graspin' at straws here, son... As for catching up, Sawz... It's kinda like that bridge to the new millenium that Bill Clinton was talking about... Me thinks you never got over the the Civil Rights Bridge back in the 60's and need to go back and and do a re-do... Take the rest of you Tea Baggers with ya' 'cause ya'll need a major refresher... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 13 Oct 10 - 11:39 PM "The red***ks are getting to be rather disgusting little hypocrits... " "The ret**rds are getting to be rather disgusting little hypocrits... " "The hil****ies are getting to be rather disgusting little hypocrits... " "The mex***ns are getting to be rather disgusting little hypocrits... " Send that to the Professor of race studies and ask him which one is not bigoted. I think you have never gotten over the bridge. You want the 60's to continue on because it was your glory days. At least two generations have come along but you want to keep the racist thing going. Maybe after the next generation there won't be any die hards left to keep promoting the racist thing. "Now let me tell you junior. He hates him because of his race and that guy over there wants to kill the other guy and anybody that disagrees with Obama is a racist. Got it? Betcha didn't know that. Yeah, and I hate those people that hate somebody. And don't ever forget that bad word that nobody is supposed to use. It starts with N" |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 14 Oct 10 - 01:47 PM Andrea Mitchell: Interesting images today. Barack Obama, Mark Warner in southwest Virginia. This is real redneck, sort of, bordering on Appalachia country. This is not the Northern Virginia, you know, sort of high-tech corridor. And these are voters that he would not logically be, you know, gravitating to. This is the beginning of a pivot. MSNBC anchor Andrea Mitchell apologized today for calling southwest Virginia, "real redneck" country. Toward the end of her 1pmET hour, she said, "I owe an apology to the good people of Bristol, Virginia for something stupid that I said." List of ethnic slurs The following is a list of ethnic slurs (ethnophaulisms) that are, or have been, used as insinuations or allegations about members of a given ethnicity or to refer to them in a derogatory (critical or disrespectful), pejorative (disapproving or contemptuous), or insulting manner in the English-speaking world. For the purposes of this list, an ethnic slur is a term or word[s] used to insult on the basis of race, ethnicity, or nationality. Each term is listed followed by its country or region of usage, a definition, and a reference to that term. Redneck In the US, the term is offensive to many, and refers to Southern laborer-class whites. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 14 Oct 10 - 08:17 PM Like I have said, Sawz... Take these ***entire*** threads to the the good professor of race studies... And if you are going to quote me then please don't do it out of context... That is nuthin' but bullshit on yer part and you know it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 15 Oct 10 - 09:48 AM Like I have said Bobert, Whom? Exactly what do you want me to ask them? The ball is in your court. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 15 Oct 10 - 06:58 PM Well, Sawz... You seem to have a fascination with small bits and pieces of my posts as you post them over and over as if they in themselves define what I have been trying to get thru to you... So I'd like you to ask them to read the thread and after they have they will know what it is that they need to explain to you about "ism"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Donuel Date: 15 Oct 10 - 07:39 PM bOBERT You have the patience of a saint. http://usera.imagecave.com/donuel/don/cutmiddleman3.jpg |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 15 Oct 10 - 08:22 PM Yes. Saints are so much better than those rather disgusting little redn**k hypocrites and they can call people dumb ass stupid assholes because they disagree with them. And they are the only ones that have the right to use certain words. Words of a tolerant, civilized, rational person: "Imho, "us against them" is less likely to be effective than looking for common ground and respecting valid differences. None of us has a corner on the market of truth or reality. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 15 Oct 10 - 08:46 PM Exhibit #2874 and counting, Sawz, that you don't, ahhhhhh, get it... Rednecks ain't about "ism"... It's about a segment of the white populace who are eat up dumbasses... And so proud of it that they spend the money that their mama gave them to by food for bigass decals that the proudly display on the back windows of their pickup trucks that read "Redneck"... Hey, I can tolerate 'um just fine... Lotta of them is my friends... I got huntin' with a few of them... I get my pot from them... I hang out with them... I mean, this ain't at all about toleratin' dumbass white people... It's about not wanting them polluting Tom Jefferson's experiement with dumbass votes that really don't have any relationship with "informed" electorate... I mean, voting to rednecks has nuthin' to do with knowledge... Voting is like a sporting event to them... Just like a NASCAR race... They all been told by Boss Hog to vote fir Repubs unlesd they want to be seen as pinhead, educated "elitists" and so they do... Kinda like rooting fir the 88 car... A Redneck can not tell you the 3 branches of government... Heck, half of 'um think NASCAR has to be one of 'um three... No??? Sheet fire... I would swored NASCAR was one... How about Budweiser?? That one??? Guess again, Bubba... You must not really know to many renecks, do ya' Saws??? Shedet fire, spon... I known and lived wid 'um all my life... That ain't intolerance on my part... It's just simple observation... Don't thin so??? Tell ya' what, Sawz... Bring yer butt on down to Page County, Virginny an; ol' hillbilly introduce you to a few of 'um... You can ask 'um the questions that you think Tom Jefferson would accept as the very basics of what "informed" means... Then maybe you'll have a larger world view of this country... Right now, I kinda see you as this elitist who thinks that I don't know squat about the stuff I talk about... Sheet fire, son... I gotta a PhD in rednecks and squat... Might of fact, me and Al Gore invented squat... Sho nuff did... Now I'll do that fir you... You know, introduce you to some of my friends if you'll take this thread to a professor on race studies... Deal??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 15 Oct 10 - 09:33 PM For all you know Bobert, I could be a Redn**k. To use the term especially in a condescending way as in "disgusting little hypocrites" is at best offensive. You, who claims everybody should be treated equal? Other people have used the term and had to apologize later. You use it to intentionally be offensive and then you ride a high horse about having earned the right to do so. I think you are being mean spirited as if you have an axe to grind. You dare anybody to try to prove you wrong and squeal like a stuck pig when someone takes you up on your dare. Anybody that says you are wrong is just another right wing nutjob spewing out lies from a right wing blogsite according to you. Other than that you are OK. Maybe even better than OK. Slightly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 15 Oct 10 - 11:03 PM Nah, Sawz, you ain't no redneck... Jus' a corporate shill... Yoare what I think of as a "handler"... You know, the folks that pull the strings and levers on Redneck Nation... You fully understand that you can either stay rich or keep yer bosses rich my mobilizin' Redneck Nation to vote for you and yer bosses... Heck, that ain't all that hard... But do you really know rednecks as people... I do... I doubt that you do... I doubt that you'd be able to do what I00 do around rednecks... I mean, I live with rednecks, party with 'um, play a little music with 'um, get high with 'um, get drunk with 'um... That ain't no brag... Just fact... Ain't no axe to grind, Sawz... Ain't no high horse... What I know is that, yeah, I gotta lotta redneck in me... I can gut and butcher a deer in less than 15 minutes... I like my shine... I like my pot... I got pictures of the race cars I done raced on my walls... But I also got an friggin' education and I understand alot of stuff that my redneck friends is way the heck over their heads... I mean, I understand that they are being manipulated by yer guys to votes against their own interests... No matter how I try to tell 'um that they just make jokes about it... I mean, I understand that these folks ain't gonna listen to "that shit" from me... I mean, ignorance is a terrible thing 'cause peoples who ain't got no education ain't gonna change... They is what they is... I mean, I loves 'um but they ain't gonna change... They gonna do dumbass stuff and do time in jail... They gonna vote like Boss Hog wants them to 'cause all their friend say ol' Bobert might be okay but he he ain't right so just vote fir the Republican guy... That ain't no high horse... Maybe a low horse... I mean, if you find anyone tell you that I ain't who I say I am then you got right to say I on high horse... Ain't no high horse here... And no put-down neither... Ya' see, I've got a really strange mix of life's experiences and education... Kinda makes me a mis-fit... My wife don't understand how I can be just as comfortable with black folk as with rednecks... Heck, having lived with both segments of the population I'm ***blessed***... Ain't no brag... Just fact... As fir right wingers??? Ya'll need to get yer heads outta Boss Hog's ass and try to see that Boss Hog don't give a flyin' fuck fir nuthin' but how much money he can extract from ya'll... Hey, if you are Boss Hog and ya' gotta bigass stock portfolio then I understand... I really do... But if ya' ain't then I don't get it??? BTW, Redneck Nation ain't in Boss Hog's plans for the segment of the population than needs a few more crumbs... I know that... I try to tell my redneck friends that... They just go, "Man, you are wierd"??? Square business... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 16 Oct 10 - 01:22 AM J. D. Boss Hogg is a Democrat. That's why he is so greedy. And I don't care of you was born in the Vatican and walked with Jesus. You cannot claim rights that others do not have. That is arrogance. That is wierd. You arrogantly believe that one part of the population is so stupid that they need the other sainted part of the population to take care of them. That is the same attitude your slave owner ancestors had. You know, back when democrats were against freedom before they were for it. Must be in your blood. In your genes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 16 Oct 10 - 08:55 AM Hate to tell ya, Sawz, but yer wrong again... All ya gotta do is look at the amount of money that Boss Hog is thowing at this election to Repubs to see what side of the toast the is getting the butter... BTW, ain't arrogance to have an education, possess critical thinking skills and the ability to observe what is going on around us... If you get yer head outta Boss Hog's posterior you might be able to make those observations yerself... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 16 Oct 10 - 10:32 AM "the ability to observe what is going on around us" Then tell us where Obama keeps his airplane. JD Hogg is a union guy. How much do the unions donate to whom to preserve their place at the trough? Here's a sample: Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $32,573,445 97% Democrat 2% Republican |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 16 Oct 10 - 10:38 AM ActBlue Launched in 2004, ActBlue bills itself as the online clearinghouse for Democratic action. As a federally registered political action committee, it serves as a conduit for online contributions to Democratic candidates and committees. That is, ActBlue bundles and transmits earmarked contributions from individuals raised on their website to specific candidates. The organization assists Democratic candidates and committees of all ideological persuasion, helping moderates and liberals alike. Through mid-2010, it has helped funnel more than $134 million -- and counting -- in contributions. Because much of that money comes in donations below the $200 threshold for itemized disclosure, the total amount given by donors via ActBlue is considerably greater than the totals listed below, which are based on FEC filings of candidates and committees that receive this money. The group also maintains a 527 political organization registered with the Internal Revenue Service for non-federal political activities, and ActBlue has registered as a political committee in more than 20 states for its state-level activities. 99% Democrat 0% Republican |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 16 Oct 10 - 10:41 AM Ooops. I missed #2 at the trough. American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees $42,963,511 98% Democrat 1% Republican |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 16 Oct 10 - 09:20 PM More diversionary bullshit... Recent reports of the spending from the "citzens" ruling by the Thomas/Alito court have infused tens upon millions of dollars into the republican side of the advertising war... 7 to 1 according to the Washington Post... With upwards of a couple hundred million more between no and election day... 87% going to Repubs... So if the Dems end up with $42M in total that will mean that the Repubs will have gotten upwards of a half a billion in unnamed donors... BTW theres's a big differencve between yer neighbor putting an ad in the local newspaper callin' upi a "shmo" and signin' it and someone who doesn't have to identitfy himself putting ads in every newspaper in the country calling you a "shmo"... That is eaxactly what we have... Boss Hog is throwing the houise at this election and doesn't even have to say he is... He hides behind all kinds of bullshit organizations that don't even really exist like, "Americans for Mom and Apple Pie" and "Americans for America"... Sound great??? Sure they do...They are bogus... (BTW, those are just two ficticiuos examples of what we are getting... If you are watching the tv then ya'll are being bombarding by Thomas/Alito bullshit) B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 17 Oct 10 - 04:39 PM All that spending does not outdo what the Unions do. Boss Hogg Recognize him Bobert? Yep. He's a Democrat named Rainey. |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Sawzaw Date: 17 Oct 10 - 05:09 PM Here's a quick breakdown of the aggregate spending by outside groups showing Party affiliations of candidates they supported or opposed Republican $23,276,668.65 Support Republican $62,857,485.41 Opposed Total $86,134,154.06 Democratic $19,934,943.29 Support Democratic $80,292,350.98 Opposed Total $100,227,294.27 Duuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: KKK/Tea Party Day From: Bobert Date: 17 Oct 10 - 05:52 PM Another bogus stat by the Mudcat Bogus Stat Man... What is not reflected in the above numbers, which BTW are also more than likely bogus, is all the undisclosed money that is being spent by Boss Hog as a result of the Thomas/Alito/Roberts little "Citizens" gift they laid at the feet of the folks who appointed them... "Citizens" is turning out to be just what many of us predicted... That last sembleance to democracy and the wholesale sale of the government... Yeah, the Dems are doing okay when it comes to the little guy's donation but the little guy is no longer part of the electorian equation... I mean, the Repub bed buddies at Wall Street are sitting on $1.7T (yes, trillion) in uninvested cash and they are pissed off that Obama is trying to bring some common sense regs into banking so look to Wall Street alone to pour upwards of a billion in undisclosed cash into this election... Makes the money that the unions have loook like pocket change... Tell ya'll what... If "Citizens" usn't brough under control, and fast, then the corportists will buy out every last bit of the government in the next 6 years and we will never again have any means of controling them, short of armed revolution... Which, of course, won't work... And you can take that to the bank (pun intended)... And... ...400... B~ |
