Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 11:39 AM

The torpedo thing was weird. One of the turnips tame idiots (can't remember which) said it was the first torpedo sinking since WW2.

Huh? Falklands war and Belgrano spring to mind. Just looked it up and there have also been a number of other torpedo sinkings. From Wiki -

She (Belgrano) was the first ship to have been sunk during military operations by a nuclear-powered submarine[1] (the second being the Iranian IRIS Dena, which was sunk by an American submarine during the 2026 Iran war)[2] and the second sunk in action by any type of submarine since World War II (the first being the Indian frigate INS Khukri, sunk by the Pakistani submarine PNS Hangor during the India–Pakistan war of 1971).

Do the idiots never fact check anything before opening their mouths?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 11:56 AM

Sorry - 2 others. The third was the one mentioned

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 05:34 PM

Idiot the Great surrounds himself with idiots in case you haven't noticed. The history of ordinance is fairly far afield of a Trump thread, however, the possibility of nukes is an important factor.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 06:04 PM

Oh my god. I'm back, I'm home. You finally did it. You blew it all up. God damn you. God damn you all to hell.







There may not be time to say this later.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Mary G
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 07:05 PM

I know, having served stateside in the Vietnam War, how horrible things can get and how horrible they are under the surface. WWII, endless quagmire, random attacks on US and allies. Huge casualties. Never ending PTSD. I also see that Iranians are dancing in the streets, and seem to be the most joyful people I have ever seen. Freedom is in their sights and if it takes, it will come to many more millions of people. We are witnessing one of the most amazing times in the history of the world. Regardless of our fear, cynicism, despair, can we look at them and feel a shred of hope? Freedom is never free.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 07:39 PM

A free democratic Iran is but one shred of rationale for Trump's Iran among many. A colonization might be more likely. Trump does have a history of breaking, bankrupting, and abandoning his projects.
We can hope for the best, but expecting the worst is not always cynicism.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Mar 26 - 10:06 PM

Freedom is never free, but it's never, ever, been delivered by air power alone.

A free Iran, however, isn't even one of the President's war aims. He seeks the (second) obliteration of Iran's A-bomb potential, the obliteration of its missile factories, the surrender of its armed forces and the installation of a friendly government - democratic, theocratic, whatever. He said so today.

All to be done in a few weeks without ground troops. We needed 170,000 soldiers and marines in Iraq (a smaller country) and the result - in spite of our prompt overthrow of Hussein - was years of war and the rise of ISIS.

Hope is not a plan. What's the plan?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 26 - 08:38 AM

The only clue to what a man will do is what he has done.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Mar 26 - 12:19 PM

"Unfortunatately insight, foresight, and advanced education are sorely lacking and ignored by the narcissist."

We know, we know

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Richard Atkins
Date: 07 Mar 26 - 09:26 PM

The UK BBC now Quotes Trump "We don't need any other help as we have wone the war" This is while US bomber plains are landing at the UK Fairford base now. The return base for previous dead. So called Defensive reluctant help by our PM. I think not that case now

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Mar 26 - 07:38 PM

A Chronic pain microwave weapon, still denied by most of the US military, which some call the Havana syndrome, has been proven to exist, according to 60 Minutes. HLS bought the Russian weapon for 15 million dollars from Russian gangsters back in 2024 and has been testing it.

I knew the US had a microwave weapon 45 years ago, but this version is more insidious. The russian weapon uses pulsed microwave energy that leaves permanent injury.

This is a big story because of the cover-up. This weapon has been used against the White House during the Biden administration. The Trump administration has buried this story.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Mar 26 - 12:15 AM

You definitely need sources for all of that, Donuel. And we're not talking the NY Post.

Meanwhile, in Texas: Why scandal isn't sinking these top Republicans
“...shame doesn't appear to have quite the force that it used to.”

Despite their names being marred by scandal, multiple high-profile Texas Republicans have advanced to the next phase of their campaigns.

Whether it is an extramarital affair, racist posts or accusations of corruption, political science experts continue to debate the potency of scandal in 2026, and why even the most abysmal accusations seem to no longer stick. Scott Basinger, an associate professor at University of Houston who has studied political scandals for a decade, says, in part, “shame doesn't appear to have quite the force that it used to.”

“If shame is no longer functioning, then what we're going to see is the worst people with the least shame doing the worst things and not facing any real consequences," Basinger told Chron.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 26 - 10:51 AM

It is a CBS 60 minutes story anyone can watch if they are interested

I thought I mentioned that

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Mar 26 - 11:30 AM

Hegseth says Trump is the greatest military genius that has ever existed. Give all the credit to the military industrial complex, who knows they will not get any pushback from the President.
Hegseth went on to say Trump is laughing best at all the death he has delivered to Iran after they tried to kill him.. Lyndsey Graham has a long list of countries that will soon face the wrath of Trump's revenge.

The rampage will continue past exhaustion. With security at an all time low due to firings I would think China now has the best opportunity to invade Taiwan while defences are separated by two fronts. Sound familiar?

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Aethelric
Date: 09 Mar 26 - 11:33 AM

So, a president who is happy to start a war to deflect attention from his disgusting past deeds, and a war crazy meglomaniac secretary of war who loves killing people.

It’s a match made in hell.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Mar 26 - 12:23 PM

Don't make people go hunting to prove your remarks correct, offer the evidence so they can read or watch it when it is offered.

Trump is mangling the US economy and this "war" of his will only make it a lot worse a lot faster. America can’t afford Trump’s war with Iran for long
The economy has already taken damage from inflation, tariffs and a government shutdown.

The blows are already coming. The war is costing the U.S. an estimated $1 billion a day, according to two congressional sources with knowledge of the matter. Oil prices are now forecast to go higher, while gas prices have already jumped to $3.32. It’s the highest price it has reached in either of Trump’s two terms. The situation is so in flux that gas prices are poised to climb higher than that after this article is published.

Gas is the least of it. W's war in Iraq was put on a credit card (borrowed money from China) - this one the US credit is in poor shape and that won't happen, it's coming from what should be spent for health care, infrastructure, etc. (There was an interview with, I think, Kara Swisher about this, but I can't find it now.)

Most of what I'm seeing that impacts his decisions is in the short term, based on investor's needs. If too many big investors cry out, he'll stop this war. Trump doesn't care about the general cost of living shot to hell with costs going up and housing (younger people buying houses in particular) becoming something out of reach. And he certainly doesn't care about destabilizing a huge swath of the world with this nonsense. (WTF about shooting an Iranian ship in the Indian Ocean? And more supposed drug runners, this time in the "Eastern Pacific?")

From the Wall Street Journal:

The U.S.-Israeli attacks against Iran have halted a weekslong rally in U.S. government bonds, pushing the yield on the 10-year Treasury note back above 4% and threatening higher borrowing costs for businesses and consumers.

The fight has sparked turbulence in stocks, a development that might normally cause investors to seek safety in bonds. But it has also fueled a jump in energy prices. And for now, that has been more important for investors, raising fears of a resurgence in inflation that drags on debt prices.

Subject: RE: Convicted felon US Prez 47/Don't Say His Name
From: Hrothgar
Date: 10 Mar 26 - 06:10 AM

Ed Murrow, talking of Joe McCarthy:
No one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating, but the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one, and the junior Senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men—not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods to keep silent, or for those who approve. We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities. As a nation we have come into our full inheritance at a tender age. We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

The actions of the junior Senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. And whose fault is that? Not really his. He didn't create this situation of fear; he merely exploited it—and rather successfully. Cassius was right: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

Sound familiar?