BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?

Subject: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Songwronger
Date: 12 Aug 12 - 11:44 PM

Syria is under attack by the Anglo-American banking empire. Syria must be conquered before action can be taken against Iran. So the U.S. and NATO are funding mercenaries (including al Qeada fighters) to pretend they're part of a "popular uprising" against Syria's Assad government. And Hillary Clinton's in the middle of things screaming about "atrocities" and the need for "humanitarian intervention." Humanitarian intervention is the new name for military invasion.

Meanwhile, Russia and China (members of the U.N. Security Council), keep voting against disciplining Syria. So Clinton calls them irresponsible, says they will pay and so on. This is our secretary of state saying that nuclear Russia and nuclear China will answer to the U.S. for rightfully defending Syria. And Russia has said it will retaliate with nuclear weapons if we move against Syria.

So has Hillary Clinton lost it? Is she insane?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: number 6
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:02 AM

"is Hillary Clinton insane?"


yes ... she is.



biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:23 AM

Yes, I don't think there's any doubt of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,Just another Guest
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:32 AM

Perhaps you'd like this article, Songwronger. It paints a different, but more believable picture than we get from Fox News, who announced that the Assad gov't would collapse in 36 hours about a month ago;-)
Bloody Bandits and Western Lies

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Songwronger
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 01:09 AM

Oh, both parties are in on the game. Just wait until the old Neocon crew of Cheney and those guys get the reins of power again. Fox News reports to the people who want to believe they're conservative, and National Propaganda Radio reports to the people who want to believe they're liberal. And both sides push us to war with Syria.

But Hillary Clinton is in meltdown right now. Her diplomatic language makes me think of Tourette's Syndrome. Diplomats are supposed to be subtle, yet she's threatening Russia and China with reprisals because the Obama/Bush/Cheney plan for the Mid-East has hit a roadblock.

I think she was assigned the task of subduing Syria in preparation for the assault on Iran, and she's going nuts because she's failing. She needs to be declared mentally disabled and removed from her position.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 03:04 AM

Hmm - on the balance of probabilities - Hillary - or Wrong-un? You know my answer.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 04:04 AM

I have though for some time that Mrs Clinton is exhibiting some of the symptoms of alcohol abuse.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 04:09 AM

She reminds me of Thatcher more and more. No, I don't like the woman one bit. And yes, mad eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 09:18 AM

Hilary in 2016!!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: number 6
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 09:30 AM

"then the government pulled the plug"

"What McGovern did was simply remain standing silently in the audience and turned his back on her as Secretary Clinton began her speech.

That was it.

McGovern, a veteran Army officer who also worked as a C.I.A. analyst for 27 years, was wearing Veterans for Peace t-shirt.

Blind-sided by security officers who pounced upon him, McGovern remarked, as he was hauled out the door, "So this is America?"

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 11:58 AM

I need more information. SoWrong's diatribe I can dismiss, based on his/her previous thoughts on just about anything but what's going on with the rest of you?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:31 PM

Is Hillary insane? Hard to say...but she is working on behalf of an insane imperial order with insane objectives, so being insane would sort of go well with the job, wouldn't it?

The plans to turn the entirety of North Africa and the Middle East and the Caspian-Afghan region into a foreign-controlled Anglo-American-Israeli oil industry fiefdom were being made a long time ago, even well before George Bush was elected. Those plans were part of the PNAC group who were planning for a "New American Century" to be established in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union. No "Peace Dividend" was to be ours after the fall of Communism, folks! Instead, we were going to get some brand new wars with a brand new concocted "enemy", Islamic Fundamentalism, to replace the old Communist enemy.

A key part of defeating the Soviets was to ally with and promote the most extreme Muslim fundamentalist fighters of all kinds and use them to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan, destabilize the southernmost parts of the Soviet Union where there are significant Muslim populations and other ethnic minorities who could be encouraged to revolt against the Soviets. Those plans worked perfectly in the 80s and resulted in the Russians losing their war in Afghanistan and losing their Warsaw Pact empire and suffering national bankruptcy. That was just Part 1 of what the men in the PNAC had in mind.

Further objectives after that were to destabilize and destroy any independent secular Arab states which were at all capable of challenging Israel, hopefully balkanize them and weaken them so that they became hollow shells. The primary secular Arab states in this respect were Iraq, Lybia, and Syria. This required launching a number of overt wars...or covert "revolutions" orchestrated and financed and armed by the West and its client governments and partners in the Middle East, the most significant of those being Saudi Arabia.

Basically, it amounted to this: you either cooperated very closely with Anglo-American oil objectives and military objectives (as the Saudis, Egyptians, and some of the Gulf States have done)...or you were a target to be destroyed either through outright invasion, as in the case of Iraq and Afghanistan, or through fomenting and arming foreign-backed rebellions, as in the case of Lybia and now Syria.

This resulted in the West repeatedly arming and promoting the very worst kind of Muslim extremists and Jihadists that it claims it is fighting against.

That's what was done in Lybia. That's what is being done in Syria. Every form of tribal and religious division is taken advantage of during these western-orchestrated "rebellions", because the easiest way to conquer any state is to foment internal strife between its different sects, tribes, and other separate cultural groups.

None of it is being done for humanitarian or democratic reasons, it is being done in order to secure absolute control of that whole region by the Anglo-American-Israeli Axis....and that is, of course, a direct threat to the future interests of Russia, China, Iran, and all the Muslim populations in that entire region. The effect of all this has been utterly disastrous for most Muslim populations.

Not surprisingly, the Russians and Chinese, who know perfectly well what is going on, have somewhat belatedly decided to draw the line in Syria, and not cooperate any further with what the West is doing.

The ultimate target of the game is Iran. They are the final piece to be taken in the Great Game, but the West wants to destroy the power of Syria first before moving on Iran.

The stakes are incredibly high and extremely dangerous in this new Great Game, because it is risking the provocation of an all-out Third World War with nuclear-armed Russia and China. There's a point where the Russians and Chinese will say "no more" and they will fight. It may come over Syria. It may come over Iran. The Russians and Chinese are both engaged in a large military build-up and modernization of their forces to prepare for the unthinkable...because it is looking more inevitable with each passing year.

It shouldn't be happening and it never should have been contemplated in the first place. It's a mad plan. Since Hillary is uttering mad propaganda on behalf of a mad plan, yeah...she does come across as a bit insane.

And by the way, the biggest phony act in that entire mad plan occurred on Sept. 11, 2001...staged as a provocation to get the American and western populations to give their moral support to a series of mad and totally unjustifiable wars in the Middle East. That was our version of the Reichstag Fire. It worked brilliantly, and we are seeing its dreadful legacy in the destruction of our domestic democratic traditions and the march of a new and utterly criminal imperial order across the world.

And I live INSIDE part of the territory of that imperial order. It's pretty depressing, let me tell you. I feel like I was living in Germany around about 1938 or thereabouts.

I have no hope for either the Democratic or Republican parties to deliver us out of this trap, because they both work toward the same foreign policy objectives. They differ a bit here and there on domestic policy, but when it comes to foreign policy what they will give you is WAR. And my own country's government (Canadian) works in harmony with their purposes.

Hillary's mad because the Russians and Chinese are digging in their heels and not just meekly letting the West have it ALL without lifting a finger.

Well....Hitler got pretty mad when France and Britain finally stood up in 1939 and said "NO" too. Fascists just hate it when people refuse to meekly surrender to their glorious New World Order and their TRIUMPH OF THE WILL.

What difference will my words make to all of this? None. Just like the rest of you. But we talk because it is our nature to talk while we still can. It's part of being free. The question is, would I be better off just keeping my mouth shut and avoiding the attention of other people about this stuff?

Yeah, probably.

That's why I very often type a post somewhat like this one...look at it...and then hit the "back" button, causing it to vanish into cyberspace forever and never be read by anyone else at Mudcat Cafe. I can live a more peaceful life that way. I can avoid getting drawn into pointless, unpleasant political wrangles online with various people I'll never meet.

I might just do that with this post. I might disapper it. Or I might not. If I don't, you may get to read it.

And it still won't matter. Don't imagine that I want to argue with you about any of it, because I don't. I much prefer not arguing with other people. After all, would I put a little poison in my food each day if I didn't have to?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:32 PM

Hillary insane? Not compared to Paul Ryan, she ain't.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:39 PM

Great post from the most insightful guy on this forum.
Sorry Greg it's not you....just noticed your post   :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 12:54 PM

Yes, Hillary in 2016 ! She should be in the White House now, but the Demo convention wanted a more neutral candidate.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 01:04 PM

Geo-politics have been going on since Hannibal and will go on until this little science experiment that God cranked up burns out... And it will... Big Oil and the Dick Cheney's of the world will make sure of that...

But what is happening in the Middle East is less about that than the reality that there are way too many people with skills and/or education who are being screwed by their 1%'ers... This is more a push for opportunity and wealth sharing than some neo-con plot... In every country where the "Arab Spring" has sprung it's the same deal as we have here in the US... 1%-ers v. the 99% and vice versa...

In the words of Bruce Springsteen, "Sooner or later it all comes down to money"...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 01:24 PM

One of the things that is disturbing about this is that, for some reason, there is virtually no "anti-war" movement in the US. The US is undeniably fueling domestic strife and escalating it to the point of war in a swath that runs from Pakistan across the Levant, and all across Northern Africa. Despite that, college campuses, the "liberal" press, the "peace" oriented religious organizations, and even "bleeding heart" celebrities seem to be unaware that we are mobilized for war in a way comparable to the Vietnam days.

Even at Mudcat, the last refuge of" 60's Blowin" In The Wind Culture", Songwronger, of all people, is the only one that seems to have noticed (well, and Little Hawk)....

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Wesley S
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 01:28 PM

"Is Hillary Clinton Insane?"

Is Songwronger tolling? Again?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 01:54 PM

Songwriter is Mudcat's number one troll, closely followed by Tuneless.

People always seem to feed them (including myself) although they should be ignored.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 01:59 PM

Should be songwronger and tunesmith. The first named is the more apt cognomen. Should add Walkabout verse (Walk the doggerel more apt) as number three troll on the list.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 02:01 PM

my wifeis entering the menopause
and she'll get randomly aggressively psychopathic
about the most trivial things...

So definitely glad my mrs not responsible for securing the planet from the threat of global nuclear Armageddon...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,who was the GUEST Above
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 03:00 PM

So, Q, not withstanding the fact that Mme Hilary is speaking out in an extremely undiplomatic fashion, and that, she and others seem to be pushing strongly for another rather ham-fisted military intervention, we should ignore it because Songwronger is a troll? What if he's right?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 04:07 PM

Before I opened this thread, I made a quiet bet as to the author.... I won....

Hillary is doing just fine. I shudder to think where we'd be if we had one Songwronger approved of, who'd set about conquering Syria and then 'dealing' with Iran.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 04:14 PM

Not one American has died as a result of a war started under Clinton as Secretary of State... Not one... You want insane... Revisit 2000 - 2008...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 05:10 PM

Hillary cannot take actions counter to direction from Obama and his advisors; the question then becomes "Is Obama Insane?"

Of course, our resident troll loves to initiate nonsensical threads.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Songwronger
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 10:55 PM

I remember when Senator Hillary Clinton's staff issued guidelines to reporters regarding eye contact. They told reporters not to look Hillary in the eye. Like she was a god. I knew then that she was insane. Caligula insane.

So she's been insane for some time, and now she's threatening to start a thermonuclear war. She needs to be retired before she does some REAL damage. She's been running around the backwoods nations directing "humanitarian" slaughters, but now she's run into a wall with Russia and its nukes. I suspect this is the moment when the American Empire begins to crumble. All empires stretch a little too far, and it looks like we've stretched too far with Syria. Unless batshit Hillary takes on the Russians.

Very insightful post, Little Hawk. Yes, it all points back to 9/11. That's what worries me. The same bankers are still in charge, and if they'd drop those buildings back then, they'd drop nukes today.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Janie
Date: 13 Aug 12 - 11:49 PM

Might I suggest that contrary to the simplistic views espoused by songwronger, Little Hawk, and several others, regardless of political or philosophical persuasion, that nearly all human behavior, including that expressed sociologically in the policies and actions of nations, is overdetermined?

I personally envy you who are so sure of your positions and what the positions of nations "ought" to be. I suppose the world needs some people oblivious to complexity and dilemma. I envy those of you whose never experience an internal conflict among personal values, and who also never for a minute experience the tension between "what I need to thrive, or more immediately, survive, and the potential negative implications to others if I do what I need to do to survive or to thrive.

Your lives and choices are so simple and easy.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 01:05 AM

Songwronger accuses Obama of being a racist. Then he accuses Hillary of being insane.

You've gotta stop looking in the mirror, Songwronger!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,Branno
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 11:06 AM

Interesting question... Little Hawk, as usual, provides a sane and reasoned point of view, obviously taking some time to deliberate.
I've just been reading about the plight of the people in Iran whose access to medicines, already in a parlous state due to Amerikan etc embargoes etc, is even more dire in the wake of the recent earthquakes.
So where does La La Clinton come into the picture?
Follow the links if you care to...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/13/killing-irans-children/
Herself is following in the fine tradition of female Secretaries of State whom your land of the free and home of the brave manages to produce. Dear Hilary! Dear Condoleeza! Dearest Madeleine!!
These Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians, Somalis AND ALL THE OTHERS, are human beings whose lives you and your kind destroy in greed and anger and self-righteousness.
I personally think that this 'insanity' is all too common.
Come on Don, Bobert, and the rest of ya! Where's the revolution? Or are you stuck in some 'end-times' meme? Gard is gonna come outa the sky and do the smiting and sorting eh!?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 11:34 AM

GfS is back!
Hope you are feeling well.
Nice to hear from you.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 05:58 PM

cRaZy aS A bEtSy BuG
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 06:01 PM

"I remember when Senator Hillary Clinton's staff issued guidelines to reporters ..."

I don't... that is quite a silly thing to say to reporters, and I really doubt any such thing was ever said.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 06:48 PM

I can't think of a better way to get a reporter's attention and stimulate him or her to do a lot of sniffing and digging into what the staff doesn't want talked about.

A fair number of reporters have made a national reputation for themselves when they were told to put a cork in it, and instead, they spit the cork out and picked up a bullhorn!

Nixon learned that the hard way!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Elmore
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 07:59 PM

q. Is Hillary Clinton Insane? a. no.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 08:09 PM

Me thinks that GUEST,Branno is insane and welcome back GfinS...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 08:55 PM

She's still married to Slick Willie.
She's cracked.
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 09:16 PM

Being married to Slick Willie doesn't make her insane... Of course, if she were, then she'd have a good story on how she got there...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 11:25 PM

I think that if it was fair to question the sanity of Condoleeza Rice, or any of the other cabinet members and administration officials in times past who were advocating military intervention to over through the governemt of a sovereign nation, it's fair now.

If it's wrong for a Republican administration to do it, why is it right for a Democratic administration to do it?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Aug 12 - 11:42 PM

"If it's wrong for a Republican administration to do it, why is it right for a Democratic administration to do it?"

It isn't!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Janie
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:05 AM

Stim, I think it is absolutely absurd to equate valuing or devaluing political positions with sane vs insane, or really, in most instances, in terms of wrong vs right.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 05:19 AM

They're all cracked. Every last one of them.
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,Branno
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 08:09 AM

Thank you brother Bobert for your insightful remark about my sanity. As if you'd know! The question posed in this thread however is about the (relative?) sanity of your Secretary of State...
The litany of woes being recently, and currently, perpetrated by the Amerikanisch Empire in its pursuit of world domination don't really need further recitation by a small-fry like me. The evidence is clear, and becomes clearer by the day.

La Clinton comes across as a driven woman (perhaps still fuming that she lost the nomination to Obomber?) but 'doing her job' as chief shit-stirrer in the cause of empire. The example of herself berating China whilst in Vietnam, VIETNAM! for goodness sake... Do Amerkans not understand irony? Or is it that you just don't care what anybody else thinks?

There are a great many non-Americans on the planet, you know. In fact we're in the majority at last count, and believe it or not, most of us do NOT want to be like you.
The gold medal for human rights abuses goes to... YOO ESS AYY !!! Your military/industrial/banking complex that eats its own and wants to devour the world is the most venal corrupt immoral INSANE empire ever to exist in this world of ours, and its servants, by association, by definition, if not clinically insane, exhibit insane behaviour. Therefore Hilary Clinton is...?

I've been in the USA several times, as recently as 2009, met a whole lot of plain ordinary human beings who naturally enough behave as normal sane kind friendly open people will. That's not the question, as made plain by your thinkers, many of whom I've read and continue to read, as well as from personal experience.

Your border guards are something else though eh!? A single male of a certain age, somewhat hirsute, travelling on a foreign passport receives a great deal of personal attention every step of the way. Your homeland security has my fingerprints and holographic headshots and who knows what else, just because...
Coming back to the dear old land of Oz, the Great South Land, was such a relief! We may be some sort of outpost of your empire in many ways, unfortunately, but that's an Australian problem, and one for us to solve in our own way. There is NO 'project for a new AUSTRALIAN century'.

Sorry if I've rambled off topic...

"Non equidam invideo, miror magis" Virgil

Peace dBrannoz

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 10:15 AM

Nice little ramble...

Yeah, I have to agree that we Yanks are a tad on the paranoid side but it ain't a DNA thing... Ya' see, the people in power like to keep us rattled and scared... This is how they control us... So, I guess from the outside looking in, yeah, we come off as a tad insane...

BTW, if you follow the $$$ you'll find that its in hands of those same power people???

No coincidence here...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:20 PM

Hey Bob....how come when LH says just what you said....you jump on his head.....well maybe not you personally, but all the others?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:35 PM

Why is there no anti-war movement. I think there are several factors. One is Party politics. I been waiting 20 years for our leaders to be Americans once again instead of Partists. Sadly I fear I will never again see the day that our leaders are once again Americans. Second people have bought into the bumper sticker solutions to complex problems. America was attacked, for whatever reasons you can debate all you want but was attacked. A disciplined leader would have responded as he or she should in a measured response. Instead of a target shot at a bad guy or group, it has been the hand grenade approach of let God sort them out. No discipline or careful thought process on elected leaders .. so two wars, intervention into other areas that we should not be in and so it goes all selling the notion to an undisciplined public as just cause.

Now as for Hillar, I can't comment, she is a friend to myself and family so anything I say would be biased.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 12:53 PM

what I can say is what I would say to any friend of mine. I disagree with you and your comments ... I don't know where the comments came from her if indeed true. Out of character for one that I know.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 05:50 PM

I didn't say exactly what LH says, Ake... The folks throwing out the fear seem to be from one fraternity: The Boss Hog Fraternity...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 06:00 PM

Ake, Little Hawk seems to be a fairly inrelligent person all in all, IF you get him on the right subjects, and he does write well, but one of the problems with wading through his lengthy posts is that a) he tends to say the same thing every time, and b) he never met a conspiracy theory that he didn't like!

That, and the fact that, by implication, he is counselling that "There's nothing anyone can do, so why don't you just give up?"

Uh-uh. No thank you!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Elmore
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 07:20 PM

Crazy has places to hide in that's safer than any goodbye

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: number 6
Date: 15 Aug 12 - 10:16 PM

All politiks these days is on the lunatic fringe ... U.S. politiks is of the absolute lunacy ... since Hillary in deep into it, then that would certainly make her insane.

biLL ... so kids, there it goes

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Elmore
Date: 16 Aug 12 - 12:28 PM

Stole a line from L. Cohen, and misquoted it. See above. Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Aug 12 - 01:22 PM

Not by much, Elmore:

"But crazy has places to hide in that are deeper than any goodbye."

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 01:02 AM

"Stim, I think it is absolutely absurd to equate valuing or devaluing political positions with sane vs insane, or really, in most instances, in terms of wrong vs right."

You may be right about that Janie, but if you take away sanity and morality, I am all out of criteria.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Elmore
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 03:31 PM

Thanks 999.I should have gotten a ticket for typing under the influence.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Amos
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 03:54 PM

When Hillary took office, we were knee deep in two big and ugly wars started by the Cheney-Bush-Rumsfeld troika.

We are now extricated from one, and winding down from the other.

SOunds like a sane direction to be going in.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 04:32 PM

Just getting sorted for Iran.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Arkie
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 06:12 PM

When people support a political faction that puts the country in the midst of a disastrous war under false pretenses, involves the country in another military conflict that amounts to a civil war between factions within the country, steers the country into a severe economic crisis by following a disastrous policy of deregulation, places the country in enormous debt with a foolish tax policy, and then stonewalls every effort to bring relief to the country's citizens in an attempt to embarrass the current president, one might expect them to say I have had enough and demand a change in leadership or they might resort to irrational accusations and claims and denials.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Hillary Clinton Insane?
From: Henry Krinkle
Date: 17 Aug 12 - 06:28 PM

When Hillary was running against Prez al-Obama, he reminded us all that Senator Clinton voted in favor to go to war with Iraq. I don't trust any politicos. Especially a Clinton. They just say whatever they think you want to hear. Then do whatever the Banks want them to do.
I think they all suck. Republicans. Democrats. Libertarians.
Let's vote for Roseanne this time around.
Change We Can Laugh About.
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