BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales

Subject: BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 May 04 - 07:01 AM

I was at Tredegar House FF last night and while advertising my website was informed "they won't like the Mid West of England - boiyo"

As I cover part of Wales I thought I would add a reference to that so what should I say to describe South West Wales? &/or Mr Red in Welsh?

TIA

PS I have asked about 6 people if they would like to translate my FAQ page but it hasn't happened yet - most cite the political problem of correct spelling

Subject: RE: BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 May 04 - 12:51 PM

Isn't South West Wales, Pembroke anyway, often referred to as "Little England beyond Wales"?

Subject: RE: BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 May 04 - 02:05 PM

Perhaps I meant South East, Cardiff and Newport. Brain still at Tredegar. Why did the caller have to be so loud? And Not sure about Little England but I have had Cardiff described as "very English" - it is all relative.

Monmouth is even more so, given the connection with King (er whichever), Nelson (dunno why) and the Rolls - Royce thing (tick one of the above).

Still looking for the Welsh words for South East Cymru.

Subject: RE: BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales
From: HuwG
Date: 09 May 04 - 02:24 PM

Cymru de dwyrain ?

My parents are retired and living in Pembrokeshire. The southern part of that county is indeed English in speech, accent and pastoral appearance. The only jarring note is the bi-lingual road signs and the presence of castles like those at Pembroke and Tenby.

North of Narberth and Whitland however, the general atmosphere is very much more Welsh.

Apparently, most of the desirable agricultural lands and harbours, which lie in the south of the county, were grabbed by Vikings (which accounts for place names such as Tenby, and Milford Haven). In mediaeval times, Flemings were allowed to settle there by some of the English barons. There is an imaginary east-west line, the "Welshry" which separates southern, viking / flemish / english Pembrokeshire, from northern, Welsh, Pembrokeshire.

Subject: RE: BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales
From: sian, west wales
Date: 09 May 04 - 02:36 PM

De Ddwyrain Cymru is South East Wales. Mr Red could be Mr Coch or Mr Cochyn(sort of a diminutive of Coch) or Y Bonheddwr Coch(yn) - bonheddwr is supposed to be mister but it's more like 'gentleman'.

Where's your website at?

sian

Subject: RE: BS: sairad Cymrw? Welsh for South West Wales
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 May 04 - 04:35 PM

thankyou Huw and Sian

I didn't know there were catters who hadn't been exposed to my shameless plugging.

Mr Red's Mid West (+ De Ddwyrain Cymru)