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BS: The Quantum Universe and me.

Donuel 02 Sep 06 - 12:19 PM
JennyO 02 Sep 06 - 12:33 PM
Donuel 02 Sep 06 - 12:37 PM
Donuel 02 Sep 06 - 06:45 PM
Donuel 02 Sep 06 - 07:02 PM
GUEST 02 Sep 06 - 08:45 PM
Ebbie 02 Sep 06 - 10:18 PM
GUEST 03 Sep 06 - 01:02 AM
JennyO 03 Sep 06 - 03:38 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 12:19 PM

Do we have a quantum brain?

No it is too large BUT at the scale of individual protiens, non polar electrons are free to roam and influence the protien to open or close depending upon where it bonds. The electrons obey laws at the quantum scale and in turn influence the folding or unfolding of protiens.

So while the brain as a whole is not a quantum device the most fundamental construction of its building blocks are.

If you accept the idea of a quantum universe you will of course build new brain ciruits which in turn can be built upon. So when you make thought more real than everything else the brain will help you step into the quantum field and tap information that you did not know you knew.

"You know more than you need to know."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: JennyO
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 12:33 PM

Rabbi, you scoff at the idea of area 51 or aliens, but are apparently quite comfortable talking about "malevolent beings", however I see no point in trying to argue the point with you or tell you that you are wrong. You may think I have made an error and that I need my thinking "rectified", but that is only your opinion. You are welcome to your opinion. I just don't happen to agree with it. I think we will have to agree to disagree.

Donuel, I always obey the hairs on my neck. I can think of one time a few years ago, when one moment of hesitation because of that saved me from being hit by a car. It was so close I felt the air pressure as it went by me (or was it through me?) The driver stopped just down the road and rushed back, white faced, convinced he must have hit me. I found out later when talking to my daughter who was on the other side of the world, that at that particular time, she had been feeling lonely and wishing she was with me - and no, I didn't say anything about what had happened until after she had told me what she had been doing and when.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 12:37 PM

Your brain is designed to run on pleasure.

Even single cell organisms make peptides and endomorphines and live on a seeking of pleasure for survival.

A peptide is an emotion chemical made of amino acide combinations.
In our brain they are manufactured in our hypothalamus.
All of our cells have receptor sites for various peptides. Sometimes a chemical will have the correct electrostatic charge and size to fit in the keyhole of a receptor that opens up to the outside world of a cell. Some of these chemicals that we do not produce are called andogenous ligants. They might be LSD, MDA, Mushroom alkaloids etc. that fit into a variety of our cells receptors even though our recptors are for peptides that our hypothalamus produces based on our own thoughts.

So your thoughts will determine how much pleasure you let yourself have.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 06:45 PM

The consequence of thinking and knowing of the quantum field will be to have your thoughts picked up by other thinking people. To love your neighbor as yourself not because it is a good thing to do but because you know that your entanglement means the way you treat them makes the reality you will will share with them. As co creators in this field you know the respondsibility to build a better future.

All of this quasi empirical description demonstrates how both scientists and mystics approach the same questions about our universe.

THere are still classic models in Western society such as medicine, economics that need a paradigm shift.

I fall back on classical models all the time and struggle to get back to a more enlightened path. For exaple I had a wart like thing on my heel that grew and hardened into a mass as big as a golf ball that made walking without a painful limp impossible. Doctors suggested this a that as well as rule out surgury which would result in no heel being left. I got so frustrated I through away all my shoes except for a highly padded pair, then fell asleep at 4PM. Two and a half hours later I woke up and went to limp to the bathroom but I didn't. THe entire mass was gone and all the tissue was soft and pliable with no trace of the growth except for a little surface callous.

I think it is fair to reason many of us have had cancer and have overcome it without ever knowing. I had some skin cells on my temple that started to grow exponentially and formed a big white bump under the skin that was noticable to everyone. One night I had a nightmare that I scratched my head and made a small hole. I then felt something there and pulled it a bit. TO my horror it was part of my brain. In an effort to put it back in I tried pulling a little more out to shove it back in but I now had a strand of cerebral cortex hanging out like a fat piece of yarn. THe dream got so gross I turned it off.

The next day I manipulated the bump on my temple and a strand burst out that was about 7 inches long. IT was a skin cell that had gone nuts and grew like a string. I removed the source and it never returned.

These physical examples may be gross but as a clinical hypnotist it all seemed quite plausible and normal that I had created a reality to cure the affliction in emotions or dreams and they then became reality.



edit...
I mentioned that the hypothalamus makes all the peptides but I should say the hypothalamus makes many of the peptides in our body. It also makes chemicals that tell the pituitary to make hormones and protiens.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 07:02 PM

"Giordiano's"* was the pizza place my sweetie and went I to. What was special was the fact that was also where my parents met....

THe best deep dish PIZZA in the world!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 08:45 PM

To the lady that refuted me and doesn't want to refute me again,
martians, whitches and cosmic conciuosness is rather something inexperienced. invisible entities wheter that be benevolent or malevolent are rather provable. take for instance cosciousness. Is it just product of a brain or something more, cannot be simply electrical impulses for electrical impulses needed to be manipulated before animating a thing. But even then an animated thing is not alive. You are an exaple of an invisible being, for inside the cacoon of your body there is consciousness. And consciousness is unexplainable by physics, you might ask you theorist Donovan about this. Consciousness is rather undifened, uninvestigated, invisible spiritual. malevolent, invisible being mht as well be. But I see no Martians around.
rabbi


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Sep 06 - 10:18 PM

Rabbi Sol, talk about refutation! 'Twould be easier if you reread your post and edited it so that it would make refutable sense. A little more punctuation couldn't hurt either. As it stands, it seems that you have thrown some incoherent phrases together - by the way, it is NOT 'whitches' - hoping someone could follow its reasoning. I can't.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 01:02 AM

how about witches? Happy? Or consciousness? What other typo- mht,okay might here it is. Hope you will be able to understand my cogitations now.
Rabbi


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: JennyO
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 03:38 AM

I'm afraid it will take more than the correction of a few spelling mistakes to make it coherent.

He appears to think he has proof of something malevolent.

And who the hell is Donovan?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Quantum Universe and me.
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Sep 06 - 02:58 PM

"mht,okay might here it is."

Ah. Glad you cleared that up.


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