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BS: Newspeak

dick greenhaus 19 Jul 08 - 06:38 PM
CarolC 19 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM
John on the Sunset Coast 19 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM
Uncle_DaveO 19 Jul 08 - 07:07 PM
GUEST,Jts 19 Jul 08 - 07:12 PM
dick greenhaus 19 Jul 08 - 07:51 PM
Don Firth 19 Jul 08 - 08:12 PM

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Subject: BS: Newspeak
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 06:38 PM

Time Horizon? Not to be confused with Timeline?
Discussions as to what requirements are demanded to open negotiations?
Attempts to lump contraceptives with abortions?

Where's Orwell when we need him to translate?


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM

Last night we heard E. J. Dionne say, "The thing about the horizon is that you never get there".


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 06:56 PM

Well, if Orwell weren't already dead, he'd be turning over in his grave over those examples.
BTW, is the newspeak for Newspeak now Neologism?


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 07:07 PM

No, Newspeak implies an attempt to deceive, or at least to cloud meaning.

Neologism is merely a new word, and may be an honest and even enlightening effort at communication.


Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: GUEST,Jts
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 07:12 PM

It looks like the Iraqis are happy enough with the words Obama is using.

>>But Republicans were carefully watching Mr. Obama's trip, which is rare in its profile and scope for a presidential candidate. The White House also made clear on Saturday that it was monitoring Mr. Obama's travels, accidentally sending an internal e-mail message to a broad distribution list of reporters of a news report that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki of Iraq supported Mr. Obama's proposed 16-month timeline for withdrawing combat troops from Iraq.<<

From this article


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 07:51 PM

I should add: not "Torture"--just "Harsh Interrogation"

Thurber's word for this was "carcinomenclature"


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Subject: RE: BS: Newspeak
From: Don Firth
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 08:12 PM

Not even as harsh as "harsh." I believe it's "enhanced interrogation."

(Rack, thumbscrews, hot irons. . . .)

Don Firth


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