Tune Add: Dutch treat

Subject: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 12:48 PM

Recently we had a hot discussion going about the Dutch tune "In Babilone." Masato kindly provided a link to a site which has pdf's of tunes from the same book that it came from, and I have been trying out the tunes.

If all goes well, Joe will post another tune from that book. The book was called

Oude en Nieuwe Hollantse Boerenlieties en Contredansen, c. 1710

and the site was


http://members.home.nl/simonplantinga/hbc/hbc1101.html,

(If that doesn't work, I shall have to find the link from the In Babilone thread.)

the new tune is called die Nonne med ?. I think this means "The Nun with...", but I can't read the next word, and even if I did I don't know Dutch. So if somebody could figure this title out from Simon's site, it would be a boon to all.

The tune is a sexy little number, mostly in the belly-dance minor but with a modern little interval in the middle so that the musicians could show they know what's what. Finding this kind of thing is one of the joys of poking around in the world of early music. The gang is going to love this.

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Subject: RE: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 01:11 PM

So, OK, Leeneia, now we have this contra dance tune about a belly-dancing nun...

I'm trying to find out where you see the title to this particular tune. Your link leads to Book 11, Page 1 - and I don't see mention of a "Nonne" on that page.

Great tune, though - but I don't picture myself belly-dancing to it.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 03:52 PM

Oops! That's the wrong page. That page, however, has a good tune called "Loreyer di Prev."

Try this page: http://members.home.nl/simonplantinga/hbc/hbc/0601.html

That should be the page for Boek 6 Pagina 1. The nun song is the second one on the page. You will note that the original was in the key of F (Dm, to be precise.)

I never said the nun was belly-dancing, I just said the tune was in the belly-dance minor. That's the minor that makes people say "ooh la la!"

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: Snuffy
Date: 09 Nov 05 - 06:09 PM

No need to try to decipher the manuscript: the last link on the home page is Naar het alfabetische register. When you get there just scroll down 120 screenfuls or so till you come to the Ns, where you will find:

de Nonne met de munnik kap

which I presume is some sort of cap (Munich cap??)

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 10 Nov 05 - 10:56 AM

Very good, Snuffy. How did you know that "alfabetische" means "alphabetical"?

120 screenfuls? I must check this out.

When I listened to the MIDI (above) just now, it seemed to me that it's a little slower than the ideal. However, that does make it easier to apprehend the first time around.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 10:09 AM

It's disappointing. I thought Mudcatters would be interested in a new and unusual tune, but no. Not even any Dutch speakers want to chip in.

I guess I should have put "Martin" or "Gibson" in the title so guys could wrangle about whose instrument is better.

Some days I seriously wonder how many Mudcatters actually play music.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Dutch treat
From: masato sakurai
Date: 11 Nov 05 - 11:01 AM

It will take some time to see the collection. There're 996 tunes in it. Deel 1 (Boek 1) has 82 tunes.

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