BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 10:55 AM

"I'm back off the bog... d"
Thank you for sharing that!
I can't see why that particular thread was closed either, though I have been happy to see others close when they get out of hand
I'm debating whether to open a new thread on a controversial subject - if I do so I will appeal for an honest exchange of ideas without the abuse - let's see!!
It serves the purpose of our troll-tag-team for us to be at each others throats rather than address the points in hand - that is the only way they will ever "win" the prizes theyappear to seek
Keith is now beyond the Pale
"My case was that of the civilised world."
Responding to that level of megalomania can only damage the patient - how can someone so damaged as to believe himself to be the voice of the "civilised world." have anything to contribute to any discussion - "God's voices" next stop
Baccy is right - he usually is
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 11:01 AM

Jim - how does mudcat do moderated permathreads, or maybe I imagine they exist...????

Would you fancy being a mod of your own thread if admin could facilitate it for you/us...???

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 11:33 AM

Jim,
"My case was that of the civilised world."
Responding to that level of megalomania

Not megalomania, just pointing out that my views (on Israel, Syria, Salisbury, anti-Semitism etc.) are also those of all the liberal democracies of the world, and all our political parties here.

So, my views are just mainstream and moderate, while those who argue against me have extreme views not shared by the civilised world.

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 11:44 AM

yeah 'civil wars'... how great to know wars can be civil under the caring eyes of the civilised world...!!!???


peace n love maaaaannn.. dood...

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 12:19 PM

"Please don't ever tell me I'm off-topic again and don't tell me how to handle Keith
He's a racist, fascist, antisemitic scumbag and he manages to sabotage everything he touches
While he is allowed to behave as he does there is no future for any discussion he chooses to pollute..."

Unfortunately, Jim, saying that to or about him is precisely what feeds him. He loves it and he deliberately invites it. He likes to play the professional got-at victim and it takes priority over any desire on his part to discuss anything sensibly. It won't be long at this rate before it's just you and him with the occasional bit of spicing by Bruce and bobad. It really isn't worth it any more. Free country, of course. Just sayin'.


"Best meat and potato pie - Carrs of Bolton"

Outrageous flaming, Dave. Everybody knows that it's Greenhalgh's...

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 12:24 PM

Well done, Jim. I look forward to the result of your experiment and, if I have anything to add to the thread, I shall post.

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 12:33 PM

PFR, who told you that wars can be fought civilly?
Always horrific.

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 01:35 PM

"I look forward to the result of your experiment"
Nice to see Keith is still claiming to speak for "the civilised world"
He really is off his meds, isn't he!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 01:37 PM

At least he does not state provable lies, as Jim Carroll has.

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 01:44 PM

Prove them then Bruce - don't be shy
You may as go the whole hog and openly support this anti-semite rathen than staying silent about his antisemitism
You might ask me, for instance to put up his support for wartime fascism - (again) - easily done
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 01:52 PM

Proven in the other thread- you want them repeated here?

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CARROLL:"The point of this exceptionally brave man's statement is that the UN (and the rest of the world) are staying silent about what was happening "

FACT: As usual, YOUR point can be proven to be false- The UN HAS spoken about this. Why lie when the truth is in YOUR favor?


"Geneva (AFP) - The UN rights chief on Friday urged Israeli forces to stop using excessive force against Palestinian protesters and called for troops who have committed abuses "to be held accountable."

"Every week, we witness instances of use of lethal force against unarmed demonstrators," the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein, said in a statement.
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Further lie on your part

CARROLL:"There is a strange blanket of silence in all this - no casualty figures since the beginning of the month says what needs to be said about internet balance "

FACT:"Forty-two Palestinians have been killed by Israeli fire since March 30, according to the UN. " FROM MY POSTED ARTICLE BY THE UN
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Proven lies by Jim Carroll, as stated.

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: robomatic
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 02:14 PM

Jim:
Pot. Kettle.
Let's see if you can keep the thread alive that you just started.

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 02:33 PM

"The UN HAS spoken about this."
Only today - tell me hoe long Israel has been killing demonstrators and how many are dead until the UN administered this slap on the wrist ?
Silence up to now no lies
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 02:55 PM

You mean "How many Palestinians have been killed by attacking the Israeli Border"?


"Since the mass protests began March 30, at least 40 Palestinians have been killed and more than 5,500 injured, according to the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs."

YOUR failure to actually LOOK before you post obvious lies is NOT my problem.

Here are some earlier - YOU claim "Silence up to now"

I claim that is another of your lies.




https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/31/middleeast/gaza-protests-un-intl/index.html

http://www.djournal.com/news/nation-world/the-latest-officials-say-palestinians-wounded-in-protest/article_3cff8c98-644a-54c5-b0

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/04/1008362

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/26/un-envoy-urges-action-to-prevent-gaza-escalation.html

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 03:06 PM

" "How many Palestinians have been killed by attacking the Israeli Border"
Nope - I meant how many unarmed protesters demanding their right to return home
No civilised society sends over a hundred snipers against unarmed demonstrators - even the British bobbies only have batons and shields on demonstrations
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 03:13 PM

You are vexatious at the best of times, Bruce, to say the least, but this newly-acquired affectation of yours of capitalising what you seem to think are words in need of emphasis just makes you look a complete tit. Reads like those "definitions of terms" you see in the reams of small print when you take out new travel insurance. Just meant as a friendly word in your shell-like, sort of thing... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 03:19 PM

No civilised society sends women and children out to trow rocks at border guards, while the men throw grenades and firebombs.

"The UN envoy urged Israel to calibrate its use of force and minimize the use of live fire, and called on Hamas – a Palestinian faction governing the enclave – and the leaders of the demonstrations to keep protestors away from the Gaza fence."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-hamas-cynically-sent-7-year-old-girl-to-breach-gaza-border/

GAZA - Israeli forces shot dead a Palestinian during protests along the border with Gaza on Friday, local health officials said, after hundreds of Gazans tried to cross into Israeli territory.

Protesters hurled explosives, including grenades and firebombs, and rocks at the fence in an attempt to set it on fire, according to the IDF Spokesperson's Unit.

The IDF maintains soldiers operated in accordance with the rules of engagement to thwart the "infiltration."

"IDF troops have used riot dispersal means and have fired in accordance with the rules of engagement. The IDF operates to protect Israeli civilians and will not allow the security infrastructure that protects [civilians] to be damaged."

https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Israel-uses-tear-gas-on-Gaza-protesters-amid-UN-condemnation-552903

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 03:19 PM

OI..!!!

the Israel thread is in next room down the corridor...!!!!!

This thread is for moaning about who eat all the pies and pasties...

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 03:21 PM

You won't stop him. He's flailing about everywhere today. Must have eaten a stale pork pie...

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 03:23 PM

Sorry, PFR,

I am here by invitation:

Subject: RE: BS: deleting thread - ok.. no big deal..but
From: Jim Carroll - PM
Date: 27 Apr 18 - 01:44 PM

Prove them then Bruce - don't be shy