BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Aug 24 - 08:55 AM

Sorry - I just realised I shortchanged averyone before by referring to 30p Lee as 10p Lee. Mind you, it probably reflects his value to humanity better...

Just saw a brilliant post on Faceache. The answer to anyone complaining about a "two tier" police system is to say, yes it is. Just ask any young people of colour about stop and search :-)

I would go further and wonder why the police who, quite rightly, quickly clamped down on the Asian grooming gangs were so willing to ignore the complaints about the priveledged white grooming and child abuse going on amongst white TV celebrities and MPs for so long.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Aug 24 - 09:44 AM

…or even to question how the then Home Secretary, who went on to become Prime Minister (albeit a pretty poor one) managed to conveniently ‘lose’ the 149 files containing details of the cases against those white TV celebrities and MPs.

Funny, that…

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Aug 24 - 10:23 AM

I was just wondering how Farage is going to answer all the questions that other (IE Decent) MPs are going to ask him. But then I remembered that he will probably just never turn up.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 07 Aug 24 - 05:15 PM

Their bottle-o, their bottle-o, the racists lost their bottle-o
   So earl-eye in the evening, the far-right lost their bottle-o
Society came out in force, so the bigots lost their bottle-o
   So earl-eye in the evening, the far-right lost their bottle-o

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Aug 24 - 03:20 AM

Early days yet but when I see mass support for immigrants and Muslims, and against the thugs that have been in the news lately it gladdens my heart. Last night was a ray of hope in what had been a week of criminality coordinated by right wing manipulators to destabilise the country for their own ends. The vast majority of people have seen through their ploy and have stood against it. The justice system has shown them what will happen if they continue. Next step is to cut off the head of the nazi beast. Get Yaxley-Lennon in court. Make Farage answer for his shit stirring. Ensure the online safety act goes ahead and hit Musk hard if he continues to let his platform be used for hate.

I have been watching for riot apologists on friend's Facebook feeds and politely putting posters right when the start to parrot the misinformation put about by right wing puppet masters. It still surprises me that some folk are so gullible but, hopefully, even my little efforts will make a difference. My lad was at the demo in Stoke last night where they outnumbered the fascists by the hundred. The communities affected by the riots have reclaimed their streets from the criminals. Long may it continue.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 08 Aug 24 - 03:42 AM

A big “Amen” to all of that, Dave.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: The Sandman
Date: 03 Sep 24 - 09:44 AM

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=farage+latest+news since you asked a question about Farage.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Sep 24 - 12:02 PM

It was a rhetorical question that came with a ready answer.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 09 Sep 24 - 06:43 AM

Just seen this quoted in RISKS Digest 34.44*:

Subject: Visa required for EU entry starting next year

[via Dave Farber's IP distribution]

What has not been mentioned in most reports is that the set of planned EU restrictions on non-EU (non-Schengen, actually) citizens are all modeled on measures the U.S. has already implemented and encouraged other countries to adopt, as I discuss in a report for the Identity Project:

Planned new European travel restrictions follow U.S. precedents and pressure

[...]

But U.S. citizens who object to these new European measures should direct their objections and, more importantly, their agitation for changes in travel rules to the U.S. government.

These impending new European travel control and surveillance measures are modeled on systems developed, already in use in, and actively promoted to European and other governments around the world by the U.S. government.

By its precedents and international pressure, the U.S. government is making travel more difficult for everyone, including U.S. citizens, everywhere in the world including in Europe. [...]

MaJoC's €0.02: Once it affects US tourists, Something Might Be Done. But then again, there's now an entire industry behind the border checks, so that methinks is that.

* Apologies for the nonstandard location. The official archive site, with links to individual sub-articles, has database and certificate problems.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Sep 24 - 10:22 AM

Very amusing this morning to hear the ferret-faced Shadow Leader of the Opposition, Chris Philp, complaining about the PM and Deputy PM accepting gifts from Labour donors of a few suits, posh spectacles, and the loan of an apartment in New York for a few nights, declaring with outraged, righteous indignation that “It’s wrong!”.

Funny, I don’t recall him exhibiting righteous indignation and declaring “It’s Wrong” over his own party spaffing billions on the contracts they gave their own members, donors, and pub landlords for PPE that never materialised or proved to be useless during the Covid pandemic, or filling the House of Lords with Russian oligarchs and friends of Putin.

Those Tory has-beens have no shame, nor any sense of irony.

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 Sep 24 - 03:16 PM

Just read that the sum total of donations to Starmer is £12500 less than hust the cost of Bozos flat redecoration. I don't think either is right - just putting it in perspective

Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics - 3
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 22 Sep 24 - 03:44 PM

I’m pretty sure that all influential MPs receive gifts, and I have no real problem with that as long as they are declared through the Members’ Register of Interests procedure (which the gifts in question appear to have been). Unfortunately, the Tories have chosen to weaponise gifts received by Labour Cabinet Ministers, presumably in an attempt to undermine the LP Conference and draw attention away from positive things the government are trying to do.

It should come as no surprise, after all the Tories demonstrated that they are The Party of Dirty Tricks with their character-assassination job on Corbyn in 2019.