Mitchell Trio Songbook?

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 03 - 05:33 PM

Well, I could give ya the words to every song they ever did, plus either a tape or CD of ever song they ever did plus a few they never recorded but practiced, plus a complete history of the group.

But I ain't gonna do it cuz y'all trashed the worlds greatest singer, John Denver.

So there!!

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Apr 03 - 06:04 PM

Okay

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,hic et ubique
Date: 16 Jul 04 - 09:23 PM

Question has popped up elsewhere. Can anyone provide us with the full lyrics to "It doesn't pay to be too hip"? Thanks in advance.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 17 Jul 04 - 03:04 AM

Salve, hic et ubique -
You threw me for a minute because your title was a bit off, but I found "The Hip Song (It Does Not Pay To Be Hip)" on the Mitchell Trio Reflecting album. It's actually a Shel Silverstein song, and you can find the lyrics right here in the Digital Tradition Folk song Database - (click).
Shel's lyrics disappeared from the Internet for a while after his death, but I see they're back - click here for lots of them.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: Lyr Add: MALADYOZHENAYA (Chad Mitchell Trio)
From: GUEST,James
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 05:17 PM

An on-line friend turned out to be an associate professor of Russian somewhere in the Midwest, so I asked her about "Maladyozhenaya." She knew the song, which originally came from a 1938 Soviet film (a musical comedy!) called Volga-Volga, and sent me all of the words, complete with translation. So, just in case anyone else cares....


MOLODEZHNAYA

Vyotsia dymka zolotaya pridorozhnaya (Golden smoke weaves through the air)
Oi ty, radost' molodaya, nevozmozhnaya! (Oh, you! Young impossible joy!)
Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense road of youth/The immense youthful road)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense youthful road)

V more chaiku obgonyaem my dalekuiu, (In the sea we'll overtake the faraway seagull)
V nebe tuchu probivaem my vysokuiu (In the sky, we'll break through a high cloud)
Ulybaias' nashei stae (Smiling at our pack)
Vsei zemli odna shestaia (One sixth of the entire earth)
Nashei radost'iu napolnena shirokoiu (Full [the sixth] of our wide happiness)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Ulybaias' nashei stae (Smiling at our pack)
Vsei zemli odna shestaia (One sixth of the entire earth)
Nashei radost'iu napolnena shirokoiu (Full [the sixth] of our wide happiness)


Chto mechtalos' I khotelos', to sbyvaetsia (What was dreamed and wished for, will be)
Priamo k solytsy nasha smelost' probivaetsia (Straight to the sun our bravery will reach)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like a stalk of wheat, our joy is ripening)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like grains of wheat, our joy is ripening!)

V pliaske nogi khodiat sami, sami prosiatsia (Our legs will do a dance themselves, will invite themselves)
I nad nami solov'yami pesni nociatsia! (And above us, songs of the nightingales will be carried)
Ei, podruga, vykhodi-ka (Hey! Girlfriend, come on out!)
I na druga pogliadi-ka (And take a look at your guy)
Chtoby shutkoiu veseloi perebrosit'sia! (So we can share a happy joke!)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)

Ei, podruga, vykhodi-ka (Hey! Girlfriend, come on out!)
I na druga pogliadi-ka (And take a look at your guy)
Chtoby shutkoiu veseloi perebrosit'sia! (So we can share a happy joke!)

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 08:33 PM

My (ex-lib) copy of the Song Book is the 1964, hardbound edition. I think I paid USD 0.10 for it....

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 05:40 PM

Many thanks, guest,James I'd been wondering about that song for years.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 09 Apr 07 - 09:38 PM

Joe Offer wrote (many posts back, on 16 March 2000), "but now I've been punished for gloating, by needlessly typing the exact same thing Barbara typed," but in fact there was at least one major difference between what he typed and what she typed, namely, he typed,

An Irish Song

where she typed,

An Irish Song (Rickety Tickety Tin)

Rickety Tickety Tin is what many people call a certain song by Tom Lehrer, a song which, so far as I know, the Trio never recorded. Joe had it right.

But I think there are a couple of mistakes in Alma Mater (Joe, again, 29 April 2003). I always heard the second line as, where we can seek the truth. And in the third line, surely stride is a typo for strife.

(And I'm sure no one will confuse Alma Mater with Alma Mahler, so I won't even mention it. D'oh!)

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 11:43 AM

Perhaps Alma Mahler WAS alma mater to some of us....

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,James
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 07:46 PM

"...where we can seek the truth" is the way I always herad it.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,'Ray Bucknell
Date: 11 Apr 07 - 06:58 PM

I'm surprised I never noticed this thread before, given that the CMT are the reason I became a folkie in the first place.   I bought my first copy of the Mitchell Trio songbook back when I was in sixth or seventh grade, and now have both the read and black soft covers and the red one in cloth-bound, courtesy of Ebay (and I use them; my original copy is now retired because the pages are falling out).   A couple of comments on earlier posts herein: the Chad Mitchell Trio became known as the Mitchell Trio in 1964, ostensibly because Joe and Mike were tired of Chad getting all the attention, but truly because Chad was planning to leave the group for a solo career, which he of couse did in the summer of 1965.   Whoever it was who said Chad was sick when he saw the Trio play the Cellar Door in the summer of 1966 wasn't gonna see Chad in any event; Chad was then touring as a single and John Denver had been in the group for months.   Chad was indeed arrested for possession of "contraband," but not in Chicago; it was a border incident.   And, the words to Alma Mater are definitely "where we can seek the truth."
    Joe is still an Episcopal priest in Torrance, CA; Mike has retired from directing all of the entertainment facilities in the city of Spokane, WA for many years, and Chad was selling real estate in Spokane but I don't think he's doing that any more.   The Trio just did a celebrity cruise this past February which, unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend.   I last saw them in August, 1995 at the Jersey shore with Paxton, Christine Lavin, and Yarrow/Stookey, where I was thrilled to be able to get a picture of my then-12-year-old son with each member of the Trio.   They still sound damn good, even after all these years.

                                     'Ray

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Barbara
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 05:21 PM

So far as I know the song that Tom Lehrer calls "The Irish Song" or "The Irish Ballad" is the song that is popularly known as "Rickety tickety tin" When he introduces it on the tape that I have, he explains that Irish songs all seem to be bloody and have too many verses, so he thought he'd try his hand at one. If we need accuracy, I could go listen to Mr Lehrer on the tape.
I have no idea whether I heard CMT sing this or not.
But what's in the song book is the words for "rickety tickety tin".

Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 08:46 PM

Barbara, are you saying that the CMT songbook has a song that starts, "About a maid I'll sing a song..."? and not, "As I walked out one May morning, to take a pleasant air..."? I think that would be a serious mistake in the songbook, as the Trio definitely recorded the latter and, to the best of my knowledge, never the former.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Song Book?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Apr 07 - 04:09 AM

Gerry, I am humbled and grateful. I made the corrections you suggested on "Alma Mater." Listening again, I'm sure you're correct.
Thanks.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gospodin Dmitri
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 10:40 PM

MOLODEZHNAYA

Vyotsia dymka zolotaya pridorozhnaya (Golden smoke weaves through the air)
Oi ty, radost' molodaya, nevozmozhnaya! (Oh, you young impossible joy!) Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense road of youth/The immense youthful road)

(Chorus)                              
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)      
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)                        
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)            
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Tochno nebo, vysoka ty (Like the sky, you are tall/high)
Tochno more, shiroka ty (Like the sea, you are wide)            
Neobyatnaya doroga molodezhnaya (The immense youthful road)   

Chto mechtalos' I khotelos', to sbyvaetsia (What was dreamed and wished for, will be)
Priamo k solytsy nasha smelost' probivaetsia (Straight to the sun our bravery will reach)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)            
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like a stalk of wheat, our joy is ripening)

(Chorus)
Ei, gryanem (Hey! Let's get moving!)      
Sil'nee! (Stronger!)                        
Podtyanem (We'll hitch together)            
Druzhnee! (Closer/Friendlier!)
Vsekh razbudim—budim—budim, (We'll wake everyone up—wake up—wake up)
Vse dobudem—budem—budem! (Everyone will get there—we'll be there—we'll be there)
Slovno kolos, nasha radost' nalivaetsia (Like grains of wheat, our joy is ripening!)

Note: All transliteration of Cyrillic into Roman characters is defective. This sample of Cyrillic transcription is literal, and does not reflect that -e- is pronounced -ye (as in morye, nalivayetsya) or sometimes as -yo- (in certain stressed syllables, as in Molodyozhnaya). Likewise, -o- in unstressed syllables is pron. -a- so molodyozhnaya is actually pron. like maladyozhnaya. You also will not see the palatalized consonants as in -bud'im -bud'im -bud'im, but you can hear them on the record. Also: this CMT arrangement shows two verses, but there are at least three more! Do svidaniya, lyubimye!

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 04 Aug 08 - 11:04 PM

Lyrics to many many many (Chad) Mitchell Trio songs at http://lyricwiki.org/Chad_Mitchell_Trio

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Folk Lives
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:35 PM

Sadly, my ear isn't what it once was and I'm having a tough time trying to figure the intro and accompanying chords of "I Feel So Good About It (Sin Bound Train)".

Would those of you who have the Songbook mind looking them up for me?

Thanks So much.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Folk Lives
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:48 PM

To add to the previous post ... just want to confirm that the opening chords are a simple G - G (with added C) - G(with added D) - G .... I'm pretty sure those are the right notes but the effect isn't the same.

Thanks again.

Subject: Lyr Add: IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE HIP (S Silverstein)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 05:02 PM

Belatedly, here's the Hip song:
(It's by Shel Silverstein)

Oh yeah
Well, for a long time now
I've been aware
That I'm so hip
The rest of the world is square
Now I'll tell all you people
And just take my tip
It doesn't pay to be too hip

Now yesterday I found myself
Sort of in the red
With no immediate way
To meet my overhead
Well I went up to my buddy
And I asked him for some bread
Here's what he said
He said, sure, you want white bread, rye bread, pumpernickel,
whole [?], cracked [?], bagels, [?]
Well, I said later
He said 2.30, 3.30, 4.30, 5.30?
I said, no, like later baby
Oh, you mean next week?
Well, I said, let's forget it

Well I went on uptown to see a man
Heard he had a little stuff on hand
I said tell me baby, can you spare some pot?
He said, you're welcome man to anything that I've got
I've got steel pots, aluminum pots, cast [?], brass, [?]
I said no, no, cool it
You mean put it in the refrigerator?
No, no, I mean like, you know, cool it
You mean turn on the air conditioning?
Well, that wasn't exactly what I had in mind either

Well I was getting real uptight
And sort of brought down
There was nobody hip in your whole damn town
Then I met this chick
And she was long and tall
And I ask her, you know, if she'd care to have a ball
She says [?] ball, or baseball, or volleyball, or handball,
or pinball, or soccer?
I said, you putting me on?
She says train the bus, the plane, the subway?
No, I just wanna make it
Make what?
Well, a scene, I wanna make a scene
Shakespeare, Clifford Odets, Arthur Miller, Pirandello?
Well, what you do but, I said, forget it

And then she said
Well you know what I'd like to do?
No, what?
Well, I'd like to make love to you
Well, go baby, go
And I leaned back and I closed my eyes
And she left

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 06:20 PM

Dick, it's already in the DT, under IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE HIP, and Joe Offer linked to it a few posts up. The words in the DT are not exactly the words the trio sang. For example, when they list the kinds of pot, I'm sure they include pewter, which the DT version does not.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: Barbara
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 02:59 AM

Would you believe I learned that rap at church camp? Dick, the missing words are verse 2 wheat, wheat, and we said something like "hollyintheolly" for the last one.
Verse 3 iron and pewter
Verse 4 football.
It's amazing what a misspent youth will do for you.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Vicki K.
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 07:30 AM

Not only is Joe Frasier indeed the CMT member who became an Episcopal priest, he's the Mudcatter with the handle "Vicar".
    We had quite a few very interesting conversations with him on the celebrity cruise featuring the CMT and Jack Williams.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 08 - 12:52 AM

Folk Lives : The book is deceptively simple - G C G C ...

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: Folk Lives
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 01:56 AM

Thanks for the feedback regarding "I Feel So Good About It".

I couldn't capture their driving sound in G playing in the first position. But it was easy after setting the capo on the third fret and playing in E. The driving rhythm of the verses comes from playing E - Asus2 - E - Asus2. That Asus2 is an A chord with an open B string.

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,mccr00ner
Date: 18 Jun 09 - 09:13 AM

Hello, I didn't know, or had long ago forgotten, the existence of a CMT song book! I sing with a Men's a capella group at my church, and have become mildly obsessed with introducing them to 'I Feel So Good About It'. (recently had an email conversation with Paul Prestopino about it, but he never mentioned the songbook!) Could I somehow get in touch with one of you who have a copy of the songbook and entice you to send me a photocopy of at least this song?? I wouldn't turn down copies of the whole book.....   OK, let's stay serious. Any reasonable, and likely most unreasonable, offer(s) welcome.   Sorry, I have no firstborn son to offer...

Subject: RE: Mitchell Trio Songbook?
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 23 Oct 10 - 01:51 AM

I've had another look at the DT version of It Does Not Pay To Be Hip, linked by Joe Offer in this thread, 17 July 2004, which is presumably the words the way Shel Silverstein wrote them, and the CMT version of The Hip song, lyrics provided above by dick greenhaus, 3 Nov 2008, with some additions by Barbara the next day. There are plenty of differences, mostly small. What Barbara remembers as "hollyintheolly" is "challah or bialy" in Silverstein. I can hear "bialy" in the Trio recording, but not "challah." Either the boys didn't know what challah is, or they figured their audiences wouldn't (my spelling checker sure doesn't). My preference would be to sing/recite the work with challah in it, just remember it's the ch of the German ich or the Scottish Loch, not the ch of chair. The Trio did include bagels, which don't appear in Silverstein.

The other difference that interests me is that where the Trio has the hipster ask the chick "if she'd care to have a ball," in Silverstein he "asked her would she care to ball." The latter sounds more like what I'd expect a hipster (circa 1965) to say, but maybe it was too crude for the CMT to record.