Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 09:21 AM

How about Trump watches? Collect 'em all!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/09/27/donald-trump-launches-collection-branded-watches/

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 11:15 AM

> Trump watches

Thought 1: Do they have Mickey-Mouse hands?

Thought 1a: .... or just small ones?

> Trump watches

Thought 2: I sincerely hope he doesn't.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 11:36 AM

Someone should tell him that his family jewels are showing . . .

CNN pretty well covers it in their headline Trump hawks $100,000 watches as he leverages his candidacy for profit

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Sep 24 - 06:00 PM

And have you tried the new Trump cologne?

https://gettrumpsneakers.com/products/fight-fight-fight-cologne-for-men

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 28 Sep 24 - 10:20 AM

> the new Trump cologne

Good grief: he's selling his bottled farts. "This too was a vanity, an a striving after wind" (Ecclesiastes)

.... Does one buy that with a gag order?

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Sep 24 - 06:15 PM

When I navigate to the site in the cologne link above my Fakespot browser extension pops up and cautions "Potential Seller Issues" and "Limited Internet Presence." Ha. Just limited because of this new site. Anyway, it seems to be a suitable warning for the site.

Trump is entangled with christian nationalist activists who have supported his causes in several venues. In particular the Supreme Court. Here is a Mother Jones article by Rob Schenck, a former member of the group.

My organization, Faith and Action in the Nation’s Capital, had created an initiative we called “Operation Higher Court” that trained wealthy couples as “stealth missionaries,” befriending Thomas and his wife, Ginni; Samuel and Martha-Ann Alito; and Antonin and Maureen Scalia—­lavishing­ them with meals at high-end restaurants and invitations to luxurious vacation properties. Alongside these amenities, our ministry offered prayers, gift Bibles, and the assurance that millions of believers thanked God for the decisions this trio of justices rendered on abortion, health care, marriage, and gun ownership. . . . When President George W. Bush nominated Roberts for chief justice, I was in a private box seat at the Senate confirmation hearing. At Alito’s confirmation, I was the guest of Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the three-time Senate Judiciary Committee chair. And when Donald Trump chose Neil Gorsuch after Scalia’s death, not only was I present for the hearing, but a month before, I had coordinated prayers for Gorsuch and his family in a nearby chapel. On more than one occasion, I knelt in prayer alongside Mike Pence (when he was a member of Congress from Indiana) and other lawmakers in the vanguard of the new right.

Sometimes it takes a while for all of the penny to drop for folks in these organizations. This is a long read, so far I've skimmed it but will go back to read closely this evening. From Schenk, "My change of course so late in life has been painful, disorienting, and costly."

It took two years to extract myself. I dismantled the organization I had spent more than two decades building, walking away from a multimillion-dollar donor base. ­I called countless people to explain why I was leaving the movement I’d helped lead. ­I reached out to others to beg their pardon for the harm I had inflicted. I repented in prayer for my errors and the damage they caused. Then, I privately dedicated the rest of my life to doing as much repair as possible.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Oct 24 - 05:29 PM

Trump can run but he can't hide his past bad behavior, Jack Smith has seen to that and Judge Chutkan concurs. Even if the Trump folks manage to get some of today's information excluded, it is out there in the world.

Special counsel Jack Smith provides fullest picture yet of his 2020 election case against Trump in new filing

A federal judge in Washington, DC, has released the most comprehensive narrative to date of the 2020 election conspiracy case against Donald Trump, outlining what special counsel Jack Smith describes as the former president’s “private criminal conduct.”

The 165-page document comes from Smith’s office and is the fullest accounting yet of evidence in the election subversion case against Trump.

Throughout the document, Smith argues that the actions Trump took to overturn the election were in his private capacity – as a candidate – rather than in his official capacity, as a president. That argument flows from the Supreme Court’s decision in July, which granted the former president sweeping immunity for official actions but left the door open for prosecutors to pursue Trump for unofficial steps he took.

”At its core, the defendant’s scheme was a private one,” prosecutors wrote in the motion. “He extensively used private actors and his campaign infrastructure to attempt to overturn the election results and operated in a private capacity as a candidate for office.”

The filing weaves together what prominent witnesses told a federal grand jury and the FBI about Trump, along with other never-before-disclosed evidence investigators gathered about the former president’s actions leading up to and on January 6, 2021.

Releasing the motion, which was previously filed under seal, is the latest major development in Smith’s longstanding effort to prosecute Trump for actions he took to overturn the 2020 election, even as the former president is seeking a second term in a tight race with Vice President Kamala Harris. The case, which has already reached the Supreme Court once, has repeatedly been delayed as Trump has attempted to push off the prosecution until after the next month’s election.

Here is the 165-page document if anyone wants to read it.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Nov 24 - 09:11 PM

This thread is still here and open. And Letitia James, the AG of NY congratulated Trump - kind of - but made it clear he isn't going to walk all over them. The next couple of weeks might be interesting. There are some bills coming due for Mr. Trump that he can't pardon himself out of.

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 09 Nov 24 - 09:20 PM

Bring it on!! :-D

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Nov 24 - 11:05 PM

Would Trump be allowed to make decisions from a prison cell?

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Nov 24 - 03:22 AM

would it not make more sense to give him harsh financial penalties plus prevent him from running his enterprises, removing or cutting presedential salary

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: The Sandman
Date: 10 Nov 24 - 03:39 AM

Yet another possibilty Trump decides to improve conditions for prisoners as he is likely to be affected

Subject: RE: Trump CONVICTED - NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Nov 24 - 10:22 AM

Dick, this thread is about Trump's legal problems. Let's follow the legal cases here and stop speculating on Vance and Israel.

A sentence would be something that would no doubt be set aside by a state judge on appeal. Trump in jail isn't going to happen, probably ever, since Judge Cannon tanked the most concrete case of his misbehavior. He won't let anyone else get enough information on him going forward (because he'll declassify everything he wants to keep). He can't avoid the expenses he has incurred already but he'll figure out how to enrich himself while he's in office. If in two years the house and senate change hands then he might be held accountable. But it didn't happen that way the last time. We're just stuck with the criminal class in the White House and world leaders are lining up to pour money into his coffers. An unserved prison sentence will be a footnote on his Wikipedia page.