BS: UK Son-of-PEL

Subject: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: DMcG
Date: 09 Sep 03 - 02:52 PM

In the UK Times today is an article about "proposals being announced today" in a consultation paper issued by the Home Office "to overhaul the laws on the licencing of house-to-house and street collections for charity. Moves to require carol singers ... and those involved in one-off fundraising in a pub to inform local authorities of their actions are likely to prove controversial."

More licencing needed for carol singers? At this rate, the licence paperwork is going to be heavier to carry around than the songsheets.

(I've made this BS because it is not, primarily, about music)

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: mouldy
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 02:49 AM

When I get in the annual Christian Aid envelope collection I have to fill in a tear-off strip with my name and which streets I am doing. I am only legally allowed to collect in these streets. I have to take this with me when I go out, in case anyone queries what I'm doing. Not that anyone does, as I live in a village and a lot of people know me. I choose which night(s) I can best get out on during that week, and sometimes need to return to one or two houses as often people are out or I have to jack it in before I have done all of the road.

Apart from the hassle of probably having to notify the local authority of when I am going to be out, the main organiser of the collection in our parish lives under a different authority from me!

Andrea

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 03:17 AM

If you are collecting for any registered charity, [christian aids, oxfam etc], and you get any hassle off anyone, just tell them to piss off, just say "john from hull said , get lost and mind your bisyness"
if they still give you hassle, just hit them with a big stick, you should carry a big stick with you anyway, to hit the dangerous dogs with, 9you are enitled to do this , as long as you use reasonable force, its the law], you can say " get that fuc**king dog away from me, or i chop its hed off], thats reasonable force.john

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: mooman
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 04:06 AM

Dear jOhn,

Thanks for explaining the "reasonable force" thing...I never understood it properly before!

All the best

moo

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 05:34 AM

John - as ever, you epitomise tact and understanding.

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: The Barden of England
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 08:27 AM

Well - everybody was warned that the Licensing Act 2003 (Formerly 'The Licensing Bill 2003 [Lords]} was just the thin end of the wedge. How can a Labour Government keep treating us like whores touting for business? I still can't vote Tory mind you.

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 10:29 AM

Are we talking about the same Europe?
- Oh, I forgot - I'm just a continental, and you are from the Isles. Time to emerge from the middle age.

Wilfried

Subject: RE: BS: UK Son-of-PEL
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 10 Sep 03 - 02:58 PM

There are abuses that need to be dealt with - in particular thugs in their teens terrorising pensioners on the excuse of "trick or treat". However I am sure that the civil service will repeat the PEL trick and throw out the baby while keeping the bathwater.