BS: Mudcat nationalities

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Bill D
Date: 10 May 06 - 12:10 PM

"...madness to your Methodism..."

since the Methodists aren't supposed to drink, I guess I figgered there was madness IN Methodism. The Unitarians were MUCH better....but even they had too much ritual for my taste. I lived in the heart of the Bible Belt for almost 30 years, but except for a tinge of Midwestern twang, nothing stuck to me...

    If there is ANY characteristic that could be close to universal among the enormous variety of people we have here, maybe 'taking certain amenities for granted' would come close. It's hard for many of us to truly understand that a lot of the world can't do that.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 May 06 - 12:11 PM

Janie, do you put butter and sugar on your cornbread? My dad told me it was an old Southern tradition passed down from my gggranddad who was from West Virginia. We do the same thing to biscuits.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 06 - 12:12 PM

I can't believe that I've been in Texas this long, but it is 24 years almost, though my heart and my sentiments emanate from the Puget Sound area in Washington where I spent the first 26. Like Ebbie said, I'm still more like a typical Washingtonian in my politics and sentiments than I will ever be a Texan. (There are a few others states not listed here with brief residencies and the last few years in before I permanently left WA were commingled with seasonal work in other states. In other words, don't try to do the math from those two numbers above, but don't inflate it too much more. . . )

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Janie
Date: 10 May 06 - 12:25 PM

Kat--We are butter and molasses cornbread folk. Oh--and it was southern cornbread with white cornmeal, just enough flour to make it stick together, and no sweetening in the batter itself. And baked in a skillet preheated to a very hot temperature to make a dark brown bottom crust.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 06 - 12:41 PM

My Texas friends love it when I brine then smoke any good salmon that happens to come my way. But I don't grind it into a paste for crackers. I usually eat it out of the container standing over the kitchen counter. . . it never lasts as long as the recipe says it is able.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Bill D
Date: 10 May 06 - 02:57 PM

Alaska Mike brought Salmon to two consecutive Getaways....it was kind of a case of toss it on the counter and get out of the way to avoid being trampled! (well...not 'quite', but there were no leftovers..*grin*)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: autolycus
Date: 10 May 06 - 03:33 PM

I'd say mudcatters have the unerring capacity to swerve from the question that starts a thread as soon as possible.

   There are then two classes of 'catters. Those who want to get back to the subject and those who would like nothing less. Then it's cherchez les 'chats.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 May 06 - 03:55 PM

Picky picky. We're talking about the aspects of our background that make our origins, possibly our nationalities, distinct. Did you have something to say, Ivor, or are you here just to complain?

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: number 6
Date: 10 May 06 - 04:21 PM

Catspaw49 ... "what am I after" ... 5 ... nothing really. Don't be so paranoid ... like a typical American. :)

My son, a friend, and I where sitting around the other evening and got on to the topic of 'characteristics' of different nationalities. My son lived in the orient for 2 years and travelled extensively through Asia. While spending much time dealing with these people in everyday life, waiting in airports, border crossings and whatever he said after a while he could detect a Korean, Manchurian, Cantonese, Vietnamese, a Thai or Cambodians just by watching them, as they all have specific ways and mannerisms. My friend who happens to work for Air Canada also mentioned the same thing. This is what sparked my thread here, as Mudcatters we are from all over. I was just wondering,if our different nationalities could be detected in our posts or whatever.

One aspect I find is different regions also come into play in how we act, not just the 'nation' of which we are from. While reading through these posts there is also mention your of one's heritage especially true with North Americans as we all are sourced from somewhere else.

All in all there is no hidden agenda or personal conspiracy in my posting it ... just curious.

As to thread drift doesn't bother me ... some of it is interesting regardless.

Redsnapper ... I suspect there are more than a few from other solar systems here in the Cat.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 06 - 06:10 PM

I am not allowed to post to this thread because I am an engineer? My brothers in arms built this entire world... built this internet and you say I can't even.... aaaaccccckkkk.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: bobad
Date: 10 May 06 - 06:31 PM

"My brothers in arms built this entire world."

What about your "sisters in arms" AKA mother nature, who "built" the real world around us and not the transient, illusory constructs of "man?"

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: autolycus
Date: 10 May 06 - 06:56 PM

SBS - LOL.


   I'm still getting the hang of this conversation thing when it starts out as a question, so now I don't know which question to respond to; there seem to be several bouncing around.

   I have no idea what characteristics of mudcatters in relation to their background.


   HOWEVER, i don't suppose there are many around here with 2 grandparents hailing from the Ukraine, and a 3rd from Lithuania. My mother, the parent with the Russian parents told me that the family had gone to Ukraine from "somewhere in the Austro-Hungarian Empire". Since I love music, I of course assume as a truism, that the family name back then was Mozart, and eventually evolved, the way names do, into Goltzer.(There are some currently dotted around the US, Goltzers not Mozarts, you understand, tho' it IS curious that both contain the letter Z.)

Are there many who grew up mostly in Hendon,N.W.London, something of a comedown from Mozart, but I put on a brave face when I go out. People here in Norfolk have heard of Mozart, you see. Which is why I've brought myself up on Western cultural values, in a free-floating Jewish manner. (Unlike Mozart) (And John Prescott)

   (Bit more like Blair or Bush)

   (Except the Jewish bit)


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Arne
Date: 10 May 06 - 09:36 PM

Norwegian by birth and citizenship. United States by upbringing and culture.

Cheers,

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: number 6
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:17 PM

Me .... born Canadian. 8 years ago became a refugee from Upper Canada to Maritime Canada. Never have looked back.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: bobad
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:19 PM

What made you move out there sIx?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: number 6
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:26 PM

A wish and a dream to move out here, get out of Toronto ... then the opportunity came in an offer good job.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Beer
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:32 PM

Good for you 6.
You also can't smell the salt in the air living to far inland.
Beer

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: number 6
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:38 PM

I know I complain every now and then about the fog and the gales coming off of the Fundy, but I wouldn't trade for anything. The people here are also special, non-judgmental, sincere, abounding with humour, and don't take themselves too seriously. It took me all these years to finally feel I have a home.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Beer
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:46 PM

I know this is off the topic but when the family moved up to St. Thomas Ont. I asked dad once when I was visiting how he liked the fiddle players up this way( Dad was a great fiddle and piano player.). He answered that there were some pretty good ones but "You can't feel the salt in their music". I never forgot that.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: number 6
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:50 PM

He was correct on that Beer, natural born they are too .... I hadn't picked up a guitar in twenty some years until I moved here.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 May 06 - 02:05 AM

Bill D, - FYI: Alaska Mike was not the only one who brought wild Alaska smoked salmon to the Getaway the last two years. So did KT and I! Not only that but I think ours is better- done by a friend of ours who does the hest salmon in town - and Mike's salmon is store bought. So there.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: kendall
Date: 11 May 06 - 08:00 AM

My ancestors came here from England in 1635, so I guess the Limey influence is quite strong. We pretend to be polite, but deep down we are seething for being born in a poor state. We are so poor, the name of our state only has one syllable, and only one neighboring state.
A full 1/3 of it is bordered by New Brunswick CANADA. If not for that civilized neighbor we would be more like Massachusetts or New Jersey. Come to think of it, why am I complaining?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 May 06 - 08:14 AM

Because it's your natural state dear. :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 May 06 - 11:36 AM

Jacqui, he calls to mind an obit I've read in this week's paper in Everett, Washington:

"Mary Low, Obstinate, Stubborn, Irish mother of three, Left This World for Better Arguments Elsewhere."

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 May 06 - 01:18 PM

I'll remember that one SRS. When he gets obstroperous again I'll quote it as going on his headstone, like - tomorrow!

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: kendall
Date: 11 May 06 - 01:34 PM

My head stone is going to say:

I KNEW IF I LIVED LONG ENOUGH
SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: autolycus
Date: 11 May 06 - 05:08 PM

My latest idea for my headstone comes from an old Goon Show:-

      How Very Interesting That Was.


   Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Alice
Date: 12 May 06 - 09:51 AM

I think the US is too large to say there is a "common characteristic of Mudcatters that is reflective of their nationalities". The only thing I've noticed is slang, the turn of a phrase, that may give a clue on where a Mudcatter lives. Just reading through this thread, it is obvious that states and regions of the US may have a local stereotype, but the land is so big with unique histories, cultures and local accents, there isn't a common characteristic.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:36 AM

Got it right, Kendall. Gettin' old sucks--but beats the alternative all hollow.                               Tw

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Gurney
Date: 13 May 06 - 05:17 AM

My impression is that, spelling apart, it is difficult to assign a nationality to anyone on the 'Cat, let alone a national characteristic. So no, can't help there.

Personalities, now there we have some gems, like ShaneBDiBR and jOhnfromHull.

Most people in the world seem to be either Saxons or Celts in behaviour, anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: Cluin
Date: 13 May 06 - 07:43 AM

Kendall, my headstone is going to say:

Well, fuck! What was the point of all that?

Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat nationalities
From: kendall
Date: 13 May 06 - 09:05 AM

"Where am I going ? what am I doing in this handbasket?