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BS: Real Life Sucks!!!

Clinton Hammond 05 Mar 01 - 03:10 PM
Matt_R 05 Mar 01 - 03:18 PM
Little Hawk 05 Mar 01 - 03:23 PM
Clinton Hammond 05 Mar 01 - 03:24 PM
Sarah2 05 Mar 01 - 03:24 PM
Wesley S 05 Mar 01 - 03:28 PM
mousethief 05 Mar 01 - 03:32 PM
Midchuck 05 Mar 01 - 03:35 PM
Ebbie 05 Mar 01 - 03:42 PM
Little Hawk 05 Mar 01 - 03:42 PM
GUEST,Chip 05 Mar 01 - 03:43 PM
Clinton Hammond 05 Mar 01 - 03:49 PM
Matt_R 05 Mar 01 - 03:53 PM
Little Hawk 05 Mar 01 - 04:08 PM
SINSULL 05 Mar 01 - 04:17 PM
GUEST,old man 05 Mar 01 - 04:17 PM
Bert 05 Mar 01 - 04:21 PM
SINSULL 05 Mar 01 - 04:27 PM
tiggerdooley 05 Mar 01 - 04:29 PM
Clinton Hammond 05 Mar 01 - 04:30 PM
Bert 05 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM
gnu 05 Mar 01 - 04:38 PM
Little Hawk 05 Mar 01 - 05:04 PM
nutty 05 Mar 01 - 05:18 PM
Matt_R 05 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM
wdyat12 05 Mar 01 - 05:39 PM
wdyat12 05 Mar 01 - 05:46 PM
wysiwyg 05 Mar 01 - 05:57 PM
Helen 05 Mar 01 - 06:37 PM
GUEST 05 Mar 01 - 07:24 PM
Rollo 05 Mar 01 - 07:28 PM
katlaughing 05 Mar 01 - 07:39 PM
Irish sergeant 05 Mar 01 - 08:17 PM
Uncle_DaveO 05 Mar 01 - 08:27 PM
Les B 05 Mar 01 - 09:25 PM
mousethief 05 Mar 01 - 09:46 PM
wdyat12 05 Mar 01 - 09:56 PM
mousethief 05 Mar 01 - 10:18 PM
Amergin 05 Mar 01 - 10:20 PM
wdyat12 05 Mar 01 - 10:31 PM
hesperis 05 Mar 01 - 10:32 PM
mousethief 05 Mar 01 - 10:33 PM
Matt_R 05 Mar 01 - 10:37 PM
Ebbie 05 Mar 01 - 10:54 PM
GUEST,David Cone 05 Mar 01 - 11:20 PM
Little Hawk 05 Mar 01 - 11:29 PM
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Subject: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:10 PM

And not in the good way...

Between me being as busy as I have been with 2 bands, a solo show, and my maille making 'business' and the wife working about a zillion hours a week at her job our 6 year anniversary is this...

We're swapping notes on the fridge door... the only time we're gonna have today is when she stops here long enough to drop off the car so I can go pick up 2 guys from one of the bands and take them to rehearsal... By the time I get home, she's gonna be out like a light because she's gotta get up at 5:30 or 6 for work....

Why can't one of you fix it so that I win the lottery eh!!!???!!!

LOL!!

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:18 PM

Yeah really. Almost $1,000 in hospital bills, 3 of us in college (one preparing for grad school), a septic tank so bad that it's impossible to wash clothes or take showers, with a $6000 septic replacement on the way, but the guy who was supposed to do it never came, and my dad just lost his job.

But yeah, I guess driving band members around can be tough too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:23 PM

Ye gollies, Matt, and I thought I had it bad! I am gonna have to rethink the whole situation now.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:24 PM

Oh ya... that's right... I'm NOT MattR...

I feel much better already!! Thanks for reminding me man!

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Sarah2
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:24 PM

Hard on the spirit, anyway. Sometimes music can get to being real work, eh Clinton?

If you don't have time today, how about leaving notes to make a date with each other? You can get romantic on paper, make some plans for a dinner for two, and maybe it'll pay off in a few days...

Just a suggestion.

Sarah


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Wesley S
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:28 PM

Clinton - If you re-read your post I'll bet you can find at least 9 ways that you've been blessed. I did - can you?? It actually sounds like you have a pretty good life. Step back and look again. No - life doesn't suck.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:32 PM

If your life sucks because of circumstances created by the choices you've made, can't you change some of the circumstances by undoing or revisiting some of the choices?

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Midchuck
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:35 PM

Someone said, somewhere, that "All real problems contain the word 'indictment' or the word 'incurable.' All other problems are minor."

FWIW.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:42 PM

Matt, I suspect the reason we can't take your problems seriously is that when you look at the ones you enumerated, they're not your problems at all.

The college bills? At least you're getting to go to college. Your sisters' college bills are not yours.

Your dad is out of a job? You can be sympathetic and helpful- but it's not your problem. I doubt you're going hungry.

The septic tank? No showers until the septic tank is installed but it is coming. Your parents' problem - not yours. (In Alaska,BTW, there are many entire communities that don't even have running water.)

A $1000 hospital bill? When it comes to hospitals, that's chump change.

Somebody said, "A great way to GET RICH QUICK? Count your blessings."

Smile, buddy.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:42 PM

FWIW, eh? Great! I now know another acronym. It's true, life either sucks or it's great, depending on how you look at it. Strange that knowing this doesn't seem to help much when I am depressed...but I guess it helps a bit.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: GUEST,Chip
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:43 PM

Hey, Ain't it great to have a fridge. Give me a break!


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:49 PM

Sarah2...

You remind me of a Stephen Fearing song called THE LIFE.. and in "ain't that the life"

Especially the verse that goes...
So you pick up your guitar
And play it for yourself
These days, you only play it seems
For everybody else
Pull the strings into your hands
Hold the wood against your hips
Unwind the miles of silence from your fingers

Maybe I should post the whole thing...

The life

Stephen Fearing

All the faces are engaged tonight
The conversations ticking
The singer on the bandstand
Has a voice so close to breaking
Pulling song from the guitar
dark with nicotine and time
A sunburst top that sets against the evening

And the show business officials
Turn a deaf ear to the stage
Their hearts are locomotives

and their minds are narrow gauge You can hate this way of living you gotta love this way of life
creativity and ambition will keep you hungry

A life of empty boxes rented rooms and hired cars
and the eyes that turn to watch you
In those little red-neck bars
midnight busses on the prairies
People curled inside themselves
So many things to feel
Nobody to tell

So you pick up your guitar
And play it for yourself
These days, you only play it seems
For everybody else
Pull the strings into your hands
Hold the wood against your hips
Unwind the miles of silence from your fingers

tonight the songs are lost
Among the cartwheel chandeliers
the microphone is old
It tastes like bitterness and beer
Lyrics sink into he bottles
And the music disappears
You're thinking of where you'll be tomorrow...

Where the faces turn to listen
And the energy shifts and moves
Your voice goes reaching over
all the people in the room
Put your body to the rhythm
roll the wheel into the road
Let the moment lift your heart
and make it easy
Put your body to the rhythm
roll the wheel into the road
Let the moment lift your heart
and make it easy



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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 03:53 PM

Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:08 PM

Look at life and you get a clear picture of the present state of your own mind. Hmmm...not as good as I could wish for, but it's been worse.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:17 PM

Clinton - You have someone leaving little love notes on your refrigerator? I have a cat leaving angry piles of vomit and shit on the floor! Trade ya!

Matt - I am sorry to hear about your Dad losing his job. The rest will settle itself but being out of work is a humiliating bitch! BUT if he does his job search correctly he will be better off. That's the voice of experience. Age is not a factor. REPEAT: Age is not a factor. I will PM you with some valuable tools he can use.
Mary


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: GUEST,old man
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:17 PM

No one ever promised you a rose garden. There are 3 needs Food, water, warmth. All the rest are wants. If this country is so bad why does every one want to cone here


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Bert
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:21 PM

I had a friend who used to say "It's a good life - just a rotten way of spending it."


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:27 PM

Poor old man - no love??? You have described existence.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: tiggerdooley
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:29 PM

That song by Stephen Fearing is wicked! Sometimes you do feel really jaded, but then sometimes its just magic, and then you decide it's all worth it - just for those amazing moments...
A bit like life in general really. It DOES suck, but not all the time, therefore it's worth all the trouble, isn't it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:30 PM

Any good source will tell you that the human race has a lot more needs than 3... old man is talking through his jaded, uninformed opinioned hole!

Sinsull.. tempting, but no thanks!! LOL!!! But I do appreciate the offer... really.. I do... Ya right!

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Bert
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM

no love??? You have described existence!!!!

Aw SINS, you know "I" love you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: gnu
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 04:38 PM

Yes, but the alternative....

gnu


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 05:04 PM

"If this country is so bad why does every one want to cone here?"

Well, I, for one, have never wanted to cone in the USA.

I'd rather cone in Mexico or Cuba any time. You kin quote me on that, bubba. Hawaii's nice for coning too, but I don't really consider Hawaii to be the USA, strictly speaking.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: nutty
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 05:18 PM

My father always used to say ....... as tha's made tha bed , tha'll have to lie>

Which is a Yorkshire mans way of saying ---- you made the choices so you'll just have to stand by them


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 05:19 PM

Keep cones out of America! Keep this country clean! Send the cones back to the kilns where they belong!


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: wdyat12
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 05:39 PM

Try falling in love. Life's problems seem to disappear and new one's take over.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: wdyat12
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 05:46 PM

Pardone me. I'm from Maine and we are about 20 years behind the times. Thank God! Who are the cones? Have aliens landed? We here would be the last to know.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 05:57 PM

Here, I think perhaps this is what most of you were trying to elicit as a rsponse:

I HEAR YOU.

HANG IN THERE.

I SEE YOU STILL HAVE YOUR ADORABLE SENSE OF HUMOR.

IT WILL GET BETTER. REALLY. USE HINDSIGHT AND YOU WILL SEE IT ALWAYS DOES.

I LOVE YOU.

'Nuff said?

*G*

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Helen
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 06:37 PM

Hey Clinton, thanks for that amazing song. It's spot-on, as we say in Oz-speak, i.e. hits the nail on the head.

Having been in one of those times where life seems to have taken over I can completely sympathise. In the end I did totally re-think my life choices, and I am still putting those changes into effect, and living with financial hardship as a consequence in the short term but expecting that to change soon too.

I find that when it all gets too much and I finally yell "Enough!" that's when I realise that I am the one who makes the choices and I can change those choices if and when I feel like it. Maybe you feel trapped at the moment, but take some time to think about what is expendable and what is essential in your life.

Life is too short and unpredictable to waste time doing what you don't want to do. That takes up far too much time and energy and it isn't worth the loss of health, balanced lifestyle, and loving relationships in the process.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 07:24 PM

Sinsull has it. That keeps you busy productively. You can get lots of time the other way, just goof off until you get into mischief and go to prison.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Rollo
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 07:28 PM

In Niedersachsen you find proverbs cut into the timber of the old country house frontsides, usually blessings or verses from the bible. In my parent's village, one of these house shows a small verse that gives his inhabitants a small teaching about the right way to master live with a peaceful mind. I was so impressed by its wisdom I know it by heart.

"Genieße froh, was Dir beschieden, entbehre gern, was Du nicht hast. Ein jeder Tag hat seinen Frieden, ein jeder Tag hat seine Last."

enjoy with pleasure what you're given, miss with joy what you don't have. every day has got it's peace, every day has got it's sorrow.

But this doesn't meand you shouldn't do something about your live... Christopher S.Hagen lets one of his Western Characters say: "A man should begin his live more than once. A good man does it every morning."


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 07:39 PM

Rollo! Thank you so much for posting those. Very meaningful and beautiful. What a good way to look at life.

I'm surprised someone hasn't mentioend the lemonaide analogy, yet....*bg*

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 08:17 PM

Shovelled the driveway twice today thanks to the effects of a nor'easter. And you know, it means that God has blessed me. Other people have it a hell of a lot worse. I'll listen if people want to bitch but let's put things in perspective. I used to tell the kids that worked for me when I was in the military. "If you woke up this morning it's a good day." Cheer up, things will get better. If they don't God will provide some humor to take some of the bitterness away. Kindest reguards, Neil PS- If you guys think you have it bad, ask Wesley what his last year or so has been like. He still amnages to have a kind word. There is an important lesson there, kids.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 08:27 PM

Clinton, you said: "Why can't one of you fix it so that I win the lottery eh!!!???!!!"

As soon as I get the details worked out, you'll be the SECOND person to benefit!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Les B
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 09:25 PM

But, to paraphrase a popular bumper sticker; "Real Life Sucks - Death Swallows!!!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 09:46 PM

Real life sucks, but it beats the alternative?


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: wdyat12
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 09:56 PM

Who are the cones? Are thye dangerous? Are they from outerspace? Inqiring minds want to know.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:18 PM

Do they consume mass quantities of food and drink?


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:20 PM

I would have to agree that life sucks....sometimes I just get tired of having my emotions swing from one extreme to the next.....though I am in no hurry to be moving on...but hell, dealing with this everyday for 13-14 years is tiresome.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: wdyat12
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:31 PM

I'm sitting here waiting for the "Storm of the Century" and I'm worried about the cones? The woodstove is right behind me and it's getting really hot in here. I can't even spell anymore. I've got to go outside and checkout this monster storm. I hope I don't run out of wood. My furnace went down in January and I've been burning wood like there's no tomorrow. I was out of work for two weeks with torn ligaments in my foot and I couldn't do much around here except feed the stove to keep from freezing. My pipes froze in the mean time and my cellar filled up with water. A friend from work asked me out and now life doesn't suck anymore. It's just more complicated.

wdyat12


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: hesperis
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:32 PM

Real life is AWESOME!!!

And yes, I have been in so much pain that I wished I were dead. Still, after keepin' on keeping on for twenty-odd years, I am beginning to see the beauty and colours of the life around me. Even shadows have their place. Even the most tired-out heart has a spark still in it somewhere..... waiting for spring to come again.

And the promise of winter is that spring will come again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: mousethief
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:33 PM

So very few people who claim life sucks are willing to trade it in for something else.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:37 PM

Real life sucks...but my secret life as musical do-gooder superhero ATTITUDE BOY positively ROCKS!

Hesp, that line about keepin' on keepin' on tells me that you've be hanging arounf Little Hawk waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long!


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 10:54 PM

"Through the years I could see my life blown by the wind
Soaring high and then dashed to the ground
Finally I wondered just how much I'd squandered
Having every wind that blows toss me around
A good man's not alway right nor the bad one always wrong
Things are not always black or white as I'd thought my whole life long
Instead of haste, I've learned patience and gratitude for questions
The answers can wait, that at last I have found"

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: GUEST,David Cone
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:20 PM

Yeah! You people think you have it rough? I've lost my fastball, I'm tipping off the curve and I'll probably never be in another World Series again. So now you start pickin' on all my relatives.

It ain't fair I tell you.

David Cone (proud of my fellow Cones)


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:29 PM

Matt - "She's got everything she needs, she's an artist, she don't look back" So you wanna keep cones out of America, do you? Too late, little buddy! I can state with absolute authority that there are 647 cones in the US State Department at this very moment, subverting America relentlessly from within. They are actually not quite as pointy-headed as the average conservative, and that makes them hard to spot. Even Spot the Dog could probably not single them out. It's no use fighting guys, the cones have got you licked. You'll all be living by the new Conestitution shortly, and consuming vast amounts of Canadian beer while listening to New Age music and dancing wildly in the parks and public areas. Cool, eh?

Back to the thread = It isn't actually real life that sucks. It's harmonica players that suck...except when they blow, that is.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Matt_R
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:33 PM

Hey! What about me and Bobby D??

Oh LH, BTW "cones" is also slang for breasts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:39 PM

What??? Not around here it's not. My God. Those are not the kind of cones I was referring to at all...

You and Bobby D appear to be getting along fine, which is great as far as I'm concerned.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:41 PM

LH, you old pervert.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Real Life Sucks!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:44 PM

Don't call me "old", man! :-)

- LH


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