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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Jun 25 - 03:32 PM We could always hope some GOP senators bail on the party. Murkowski of Alaska is most likely; Susan Collins of Maine has no spine so while is regularly "disturbed" by developments, that is the extent of it. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: robomatic Date: 24 Jun 25 - 07:04 PM Iran expert Iran expert Karim Sadjadpour interview this morning discusses the war between Israel and Iran, potential fallout from U.S. airstrikes on Iran's nuclear sites, and how this may affect Tehran's authoritarian regime.
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 25 Jun 25 - 10:48 AM Today's news in brief: the Pentagon has released damage-assessment information about the Big Beautiful Bombing Run, and given it a damp-squib rating. Cue the inevitable extended tantrum. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 25 Jun 25 - 12:28 PM My mistake, it appears: it's said that said information wasn't published, but leaked. One problem here is that, whenever the Emperor shouts "treason", a traitor will always be found. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 25 Jun 25 - 05:11 PM It's becoming more and more obvious, to everyone but him, that the rest of the world is just 'managing' Trump. Pander to his ego. Ignore what he says. Decide major issues without him. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jun 25 - 07:25 PM In the congressional hearing on the "F you to the courts" conspiracy revealed by a whistleblower, it shows how close we are to a new emergency power law that would suspend Congress and the Courts to establish a complete dictatorship. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 25 Jun 25 - 07:38 PM The masked supposed ICE agents are the brown shirts of today. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 25 Jun 25 - 08:42 PM .... loyal to die Orangeführer, nyet? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 26 Jun 25 - 01:23 PM Food for thought: The Real Reason America Used Nuclear Weapons Against Japan. It Was Not To End the War Or Save Lives. The parties who are in charge of The Bomb are a lot more volatile and thoughtless these days. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 26 Jun 25 - 02:44 PM The Russian reason for the A bombs in Japan is an old saw. The Emperor was sidelined by his generals and had several chances to surrender and he rejected them. Excluding Russia from an occupation in Japan was an issue but not the primary reason. The bomb had its own inertia, from financial to political. Curtis Lemay was the opposite of Eisenhower. Cooler heads were not available to avail. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 26 Jun 25 - 06:37 PM Ah ha, Trump's bill did try to sneak in a contempt of courts law but was caught by the Congressional parliamentarian. 16 different such sneaky attempts outside of the budget have been blocked! A lengthy post of mine disappeared, probably because I had 2 Mudcat pages open and closed the wrong one; it was all about sneaking things into a bill. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: The Sandman Date: 27 Jun 25 - 04:05 AM Trump is a fart in a circus |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 27 Jun 25 - 11:04 AM The Supreme Court has ruled that a lower court may not make a nationwide injunction/stop/block against any clearly unconstitutional act by the President. They completely ignored the issue of birthright citizenship according to the 14th Amendment. In other words were fucked unless you have years to wait and see if the Supreme Court will hear your case, if ever. They also ruled that parents may remove their child from any school that has any book or curriculum that raises any ideological disagreements about gay lifestyle or evolution or science or any other subject. They still have to announce their ruling on internet porn. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Jun 25 - 03:32 PM Ferlinghetti reading "Pity the Nation" (After Khalil Gibran) Pity the nation whose people are sheep and whose shepherds mislead them. Pity the nation whose leaders are liars, whose sages are silenced, and whose bigots haunt the airwaves. Pity the nation that raises not its voice except to praise conquerors and acclaim the bully as hero and aims to rule the world with force and by torture. Pity the nation that knows no other language but its own and no other culture but its own. Pity the nation whose breath is money and sleeps the sleep of the too well fed. Pity the nation – oh, pity the people who allow their rights to erode and their freedoms to be washed away. My country, tears of thee, sweet land of liberty. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: robomatic Date: 27 Jun 25 - 04:11 PM As far as using the atomic bomb on Japan goes, that's a separate subject from this thread, and there's much to be said (refer to Rhodes' book The Making of the Atomic Bomb) It's probably not a good topic for threading if you want to get into it properly. As far as Ferlinghetti goes, Thomas Jefferson was succinct: "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Jun 25 - 04:58 PM Yes, those posts weren't meant to change the subject, simply to illustrate the motives at work here. They have long standing. And a caution that even when horrible mistakes were made there were cool heads who were opposed. There appear to be fewer cool heads in control now. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 27 Jun 25 - 06:27 PM That Gibran passage is better than Desertarata. Seventy-six masked goons led the deportees With a hundred and ten HLS close at hand They were followed by rows and rows where guards delivered blows The cream of concentration camps Seventy-six masked goons caught the morning sun With a hundred and ten FBI right behind There were more than a thousand Creeds Springing up like weeds There were kids of ev'ry shape and kind There were automatic weapons in the SUV's Thundering, thundering, all along the way Double-bellied white power goons and big bastards Each bastard having his big fat say There were fifty mounted cannon in the battery Thundering, thundering, louder than before Patriots of ev'ry size and trumpers who we all despise Arresting folks till they fit no more [INSTRUMENTAL BREAK] [TOWNSPEOPLE] Seventy-six prisoners hit the jail gate While a hundred and ten white guards blazed the way To the rhythm of "Harch! Harch! Harch!" All the folks began to march And they're marching farther every day. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 27 Jun 25 - 11:45 PM Today the victory for Trump has removed part of the reconstruction after the Civil War. We no longer need a Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution now that a lawless President may ignore the Constitution. Bondi said that the 14th Amendment will no longer apply by this October. She is probably right. The Imperial Presidency has never been as kingly as it is today. Class action lawsuits are not the panacea America can depend on. The gloves fit and Trump won't quit. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 28 Jun 25 - 03:28 AM I was castigated when I predicted these moves. Yet I still have hope that the sensible majority of Americans will prevail. The big danger will be in the mid terms when a swing to the Democrats is expected. Trump and his cronies will move heaven and earth to either prevent or reverse that. You need to be well prepared for that. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 28 Jun 25 - 10:39 AM I'm too furious about the latest antics to make sense yet (the nearest I can come to it is to wonder how one can sleepwalk and goose-step at the same time), so here's something from the Department of Joined-Up Thinking: US Department of Defense will stop sending critical hurricane satellite data No replacement in the wings for info streamed from past their prime rigs, 'termination will be permanent'
Read in full. The Comments section is especially valuable, and saves me whoomphing up similar thoughts here from whole cloth. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 28 Jun 25 - 10:42 AM "I was castigated when I predicted these moves." Tell me about it. It doesn't help to whinge about it. Being honest is all one can do when predicting in general or extreme detail. There will be times you may be virtually prophetic but using that word will only draw more religio-political criticism. Predictions are OK as well as prescience but the word prophet can crucify. However, Kahlil Gibran used the word Prophet with distinction. I wonder if he was a Sufi. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 28 Jun 25 - 12:30 PM It's the 21st-century equivalent of 1930s Germany. In 1945 they all said, "It could never happen here", in 2016 and 2024 the fools voted for it, and now they've got it. My prediction is that Trump will never go to jail. He and his cohort will see to it that he remains President until he dies, however long that may take. And he will pardon himself of everything he's been found guilty of in the courts. It's not just "Gaahhd help 'Murricah!", it's God help the whole world. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: robomatic Date: 28 Jun 25 - 02:05 PM Gibran Kahlil Gibran |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Jun 25 - 09:19 AM Too many questions. Not enough answers :-) |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Nigel Parsons Date: 29 Jun 25 - 10:22 AM Dave: Too many questions. Not enough answers :-) Paraphrasing Johnny Nash (1972) ? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 29 Jun 25 - 12:55 PM Maybe Nigel but I'm too shallow to see past "I can see Dierdre now Lorraine has gone",,, |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 29 Jun 25 - 01:37 PM William F Buckley is called the man who made conservatism sound smart. Nothing is further from the truth when you realize his 10-dollar words often tell of a love of racism, bigotry, and arrogance. He was the soil in which the weed of Trumpism has sprouted. I would hope that these unempathetic rich bigots will go the way of the Neanderthals, but they have reemerged since the defeat of the 3rd Reich to make an American 4th Reich. Greed and stupidity should never be underestimated. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Nigel Parsons Date: 29 Jun 25 - 06:15 PM Dave: Maybe Nigel but I'm too shallow to see past "I can see Dierdre now Lorraine has gone",,,. Yes, OK. I was thinking more of "There are more questions than answers" But same artiste, and same year. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 30 Jun 25 - 04:15 AM Ahhhh, I remember it now. Thanks Nigel |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Dave the Gnome Date: 30 Jun 25 - 09:52 AM In case anyone wonders the questions/answers tangent was in reference to a post full of question marks that has now been removed! |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: MaJoC the Filk Date: 30 Jun 25 - 10:04 AM There was an article about Buckley in The New World (née New European) in the June 12th edition, entitled "One big beautiful Bill" ("Before Trump, there was William F Buckley Jr --- the reactionary showman who shaped our modern culture wars"). It ends:
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: robomatic Date: 30 Jun 25 - 02:09 PM The attacks on William F. Buckley are the crassest sort of invective. They are uninformed and uninspired. They are full of the exact same formulations of ad hominem sourcing that TRMP is full of. They are part and parcel of the overall lowering of the bar of discourse that is spreading to all political purveyors of the present time. Although there is evidence for more self inspiration in the genesis of the TRMP; far richer source for his behavior and attitudes can be found in the career and association between TRMP and Roy Cohn. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 30 Jun 25 - 04:11 PM We'll choose our white power bigot villains, and you can choose your dirty Jew villain. The innocent accident challenge Speaking of extinctions, old folks tend to fall and not get up. You don't need to be in the CIA to spread a little avocado oil in the shower and environs. The simpler the better such as a potassium salted quarter pounder. Or ground up Skittles in a huge slice of chocolate cake followed by a Diet Coke. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jun 25 - 06:41 PM William F. Buckley was as unlike Trump and his uninformed rabble as anyone I can think of. He was to Conservative thought what Joseph Campbell was to comparative religion and literature. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 30 Jun 25 - 06:49 PM Democracy Dies in Darkness The White House wants you to laugh at its deportation memes The administration is using dark jokes, music videos and personal jabs to boost its immigration policy across social media. Not everyone thinks it’s funny. White House officials say their digital strategy is designed to grab attention and show that the president is delivering on his immigration promises. (Sarah L. Voisin/The Washington Post) By Drew Harwell The White House has posted immigrant arrest and deportation videos onto X with song lyrics like “ice, ice, baby” and “hey, hey, goodbye.” The Department of Homeland Security posted a meme on Instagram showing Uncle Sam urging Americans to report all “foreign invaders.” And Vice President JD Vance, told he could do the “funniest thing ever” by deporting a fashion writer who had criticized his clothing choices, responded with a movie clip of Jack Nicholson, nodding and smiling. The Trump administration is increasingly playing its policy of mass deportation for laughs, pushing memes and jokes about the nationwide immigration crackdown to millions of Americans online. White House officials have said their digital strategy is designed to show that President Donald Trump is delivering on his immigration promises in an entertaining, attention-grabbing way. He now posts that ICE should concentrate on deporting the US citizen illegal children. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: robomatic Date: 30 Jun 25 - 08:29 PM PROJECT MUCH? you carbon copy of DJT? Troll on by yourself and sink into your own deepity. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 30 Jun 25 - 10:28 PM More than 14 million people could die from US foreign aid cuts, study finds "In short: A study published in the Lancet journal projected more than 14 million of the world's most vulnerable people could die because of Donald Trump administration's dismantling of the US Agency for International Development (USAID). "The international team of researchers estimated that USAID funding had prevented 91 million deaths in developing countries between 2001 and 2021. "What's next? Dozens of world leaders are meeting in the Spanish city of Seville this week for the biggest aid conference in a decade. The US, however, will not attend." |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jun 25 - 10:43 PM Robo, it's what we're seeing come out of the White House and their supporters. Pretty damned disgusting, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: The Sandman Date: 01 Jul 25 - 01:53 AM Damned disgusting |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jul 25 - 05:41 AM Objectively, Buckley was not a pro lynching racist. Using his own reasoning, I would say QAnon followers are not civilized. Buckley himself had developed two arguments against civil rights, both of which were little more than disguised racism, both of which led the line at National Review. The first emerged early in his career. Since the 1950s, Buckley had argued that civil rights should be opposed not because black people were biologically inferior to white people, but because they were not yet “civilized” enough to take part in democratic government. Or, as Buckley put it in 1959, “There are no scientific grounds for assuming congenital Negro disabilities. The problem is not biological, but cultural and educational.” He managed to change his mind somewhat over time, to his credit. Who is using invectives is in the mind of the beholder. Facts and truth are required in a democracy. It took many intermediaries to go from Buckley to Trump. I could list several but choosing a starting point is only arbitrary. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: robomatic Date: 01 Jul 25 - 01:55 PM Donuel: You are your own chief argument againt: You have adopted an artificial approach called: "Whatever I want to say right now" which is exactly what TRMP does. Your disgusting invective of 30 Jun 25 - 04:11 PM seems to pass with other folks here, not to mention the mod. To me it's a sign of collapse. Other people are already saying what you are trying to say and saying it better. I think you should be called out for your lapse of language, but I will also call you out as the last person here to critique William F. Buckley and trying to involve him in some cabal of rightism leading to the present impasse. It's diversionary and ludicrous. Which IMO sums you up. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 01 Jul 25 - 02:04 PM “Your disgusting invective of 30 Jun 25 - 04:11 PM seems to pass with other folks here, not to mention the mod.” Most of us ignore his barely-intelligible, nonsensical ramblings as a matter of principle. Nothing to do with a ‘pass’. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jul 25 - 04:26 PM At least I know what I am talking about. Whatever problems literacy plays in social media, we should try to stick to the issues and questions that a thread deserves. Study and education will serve you better than emotional discourses that merely amplify your feedback loops of animosity and anxiety unrelated to me. When a long-held belief system is challenged, it's better to remain objective. Some people sadly find it impossible to do. ICE deportations are now about to be turbocharged with the passing of the Trump bill in the Senate. Some Seniors will be thrown out of assisted living, rural hospitals will close, and 3.5 trillion dollars is being borrowed to give to the 1% via a tax break. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Donuel Date: 01 Jul 25 - 07:20 PM Don't tell Trump... |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 01 Jul 25 - 07:36 PM Trump's latest business venture: A fragrance he says is 'all about winning' The Trump-branded perfume and cologne costs $249. ...The fragrances, called "Victory 45-47" are "all about Winning, Strength, and Success," Trump wrote on social media Monday evening ... ... White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said in May that Trump is abiding by all applicable conflict-of-interest laws. "I think everybody, the American public, believe it's absurd for anyone to insinuate that this president is profiting off of the presidency," she said. "This president was incredibly successful before giving it all up to serve our country publicly." |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: The Sandman Date: 02 Jul 25 - 03:48 AM incredibly succesful? was he not a bankrupt four times? |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 02 Jul 25 - 04:10 AM "I think everybody, the American public, believe it's absurd for anyone to insinuate that this president is profiting off of the presidency," she said. "This president was incredibly successful before giving it all up to serve our country publicly." He gave nothing up. He has used his presidency to further the business interests of himself and his family. Leavitt really does seem to have her cranium firmly buried in her own rectum. Trump’s ‘Looting of America’… |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Helen Date: 02 Jul 25 - 04:39 AM BWM, I think Leavitt has her sights set on being the next Mrs Turnip. |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Backwoodsman Date: 02 Jul 25 - 04:50 AM Clearly her taste in men is extremely low (although I suspect she’s far more interested in the size of his bank balance than the size of anything else!). ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Convicted felon US 47 Pres /Musk coup 2 From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 02 Jul 25 - 05:11 AM ooohhh!! a new rumour/fact/factoid Continuation, part 3, here. There is a 700 post limit on some of these, apparently. ---mudelf
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