Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Rapparee Date: 30 Jul 08 - 01:42 PM That should be "Armmani" and not "armis. It means that God will not allow dogs to be suckered in by high-priced fashion designers. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: dick greenhaus Date: 30 Jul 08 - 07:58 PM Bruce- THat would have been 1989. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: knight_high Date: 31 Jul 08 - 04:22 PM Information overload ...Information overload ...Information overload ...Information overload ...Information overload ...Information overload ...Information overload ... but thanks soooo much |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 01 Aug 08 - 07:55 AM The Xerox host was whem I came im.TELEX-TELMET days (awsome 8088 processor amd DOS 2.0)zilch graphics. Ome of my postimgs was a ramt(who me)teasimg MAX (who me)adout usimg dot ORG simce it was mew amd the dot COM was takem dy Caterpiler. Somethimg adout turmimg-him-im...decause he had mo "right" to use a ORG. Evem WAYDACK was mot yet. SORRY weird machime for spellimg. Simcerely, Gargoyle I thimk Sir jOhm im Hull's hamsters here screwimg the spiders om this thimg. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: GUEST,hg Date: 01 Aug 08 - 07:21 PM hmmmm...looks like gargoyle is over in Europe again....better to busk for those Euros, huh garg? |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Susan of DT Date: 01 Aug 08 - 07:57 PM Mudcat existed before the DT joined it, but you can't find threads from earlier, because there weren't any threads/discussion at that time. The Digital Tradition started in 1988 and was distributed on disks. It came in CP/M and DOS versions at first. Initially each song was a separate file. I was not one of the first people on mudcat - I did not get internet access until a few months after the DT moved to mudcat. I picked the handle because the first thread I wanted to comment on already had 4 Susan's in it and that seemed like a more recognizable identifier than using my full name. While the original songs were from me and Dennis Cook, Dick was there to put the whole thing together. Joe - watch who you are saying did not know databases. All three of us did (Dennis certainly does now, so I assume he did then). Dick was willing to take on the project of putting it together and thinking about which programs to use to do it. Yes, Bruce, we certainly spent hours at the Getaway and FOTM making copies of the database for people, either on a computer you brought or on one of ours. Some of the historical info under the permathreads still refer to how many formated disks to send us, and some have ancient addresses, phones, and emails. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Peter T. Date: 02 Aug 08 - 06:43 PM And you are a goddess in the folk firmament, don't forget that. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: dick greenhaus Date: 02 Aug 08 - 10:49 PM If she does, I'll remind her. BTW, about databases---nowadays, Google has made everyone blase about full text searching. Back in the very early 90s, the concept of being able to locate a song lyric from a word or phrase was pretty off the wall. Digitrad was one of the very first lyric collections to permit this--previous ones searched only by title or by some identifying index number. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: semi-submersible Date: 03 Aug 08 - 07:42 AM Are there perchance, figures on how many visitors (different computers or IP addresses) access the Mudcat Cafe per day? What percent carry Mudcat cookies? How has site traffic changed over time? |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Peter T. Date: 03 Aug 08 - 01:03 PM And then there's Dick, the other god in the pantheon. yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Peace Date: 04 Aug 08 - 09:09 AM Both Susan and Dick are wonderful people, and the DT is a treasure because of their care. Thank you both. And Peter T, Susan is a goddess. Dick however . . . . |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Peace Date: 04 Aug 08 - 09:32 AM Sorry, Dick, but I've seen you in shorts. No offense. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: dick greenhaus Date: 04 Aug 08 - 10:01 AM No offense. Never thought of myself as a godess. Godlike, though....hmmm |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Amos Date: 04 Aug 08 - 11:22 AM "Faith not in arms but in God", I suspect. a |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Aug 08 - 12:35 PM I dunno' ............. Its a new world and all so I think Dick can be a goddess.............If not that, perhaps a satyr or something...... Spaw |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 04 Aug 08 - 07:31 PM "Dick, the other god in the pantheon." ... "in shorts" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Aug 08 - 07:57 PM Semi-Sub - Up in the QuickLinks dropdown menu, you'll find a utility called Messages by Date, http://www.mudcat.org/messagesbyday.cfm. It wsill give you most of the information you like, although not condensed (the daily message count is at the bottom of the page). It looks like we get from 650 to 1000 messages a day, and that number has stayed in that range since about 2000. There were far fewer messages per day from 1996-99. -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: semi-submersible Date: 05 Aug 08 - 04:00 AM Thanks, Joe! I had not thought of that as a counting tool. Was there ever a page counter here? A rough ratio of views to posts would be interesting, though it's not important. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Susan of DT Date: 05 Aug 08 - 05:52 AM At some point, several years ago, Max said there were tens of millions of hits a month. He thought there were 100,000 regulars who came at least once a week. Remember that each page viewed is a hit. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Aug 08 - 03:21 PM Well, if we get 650 to 1,000 messages posted a day, I'd like to hope that we get at least ten "hits" for each message posted. This place would become pretty mindless if everybody posted and nobody read. Of course, that is a phenomenon that sometimes seems to happen around here..... -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Stringsinger Date: 06 Aug 08 - 01:41 PM knight_high, I can only tell you what I think it means. Years ago, there was a little magazine called Sing Out! It was based on an interest in the various facets and definitions of folk music and it was quite political in nature. It was not afraid to be controversial and not all of the contributors to its columns agreed on everything. There were some stimulating disagreements by the editor, Irwin Silbur and Israel Young, the former owner of New York's Folklore Center. Many people objected to the controversial nature of the magazine and so it was taken over by those who wanted it to be more acceptable and it became a folk music fan magazine. Mudcat takes on the earlier position of Sing Out! It's Muddy because there is no strong assertion as to a religious or political affiliation or orientation and does not shy away from controversy which makes it one of the most interesting places on the net. The Catfights are often informative and the mud sometimes gets slung around. This is the way (IMHO) that democracy works. Also, it's the best reference for folk music lyrics and songs on the net. There are scholars here who can point you in the direction of not only lyrics but appropriate known data on folk songs. All you have to do is ask. I have found that people who have an interest in folk music are generally more socially intelligent and tend to be more informed about contemporary issues. I see this in evidence here. (Notice I said "generally") I guess that's why I keep coming back. Frank |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Peter T. Date: 06 Aug 08 - 02:39 PM 100,000 regulars? That seems a bit steep (who's talking as someone who is only around irregularly any more). How many members are there, you know, with names, even though they might not be active? (inquiring minds want to know) Is there a Web ratio calculator someone does, you know, for like advertisers and such? X members means X100 people who can't be bothered, but do check in..... yours, Peter T. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Bill D Date: 06 Aug 08 - 03:26 PM Indeed! A new member just joined, and his # is 22107. There are regulars who are not members, but not that many. (Peter's #, on the other hand is 58...one of the earliest) |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: PoppaGator Date: 06 Aug 08 - 03:29 PM I'm sure that some of those 22,107 members haven't kept up and are no long active members, Still in all, that's a huge number, much higher than I would have guessed. |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Aug 08 - 03:33 PM So, is there a spreadsheet genius who can go to Messages by Date and generate some meaningful statistics? -Joe- |
Subject: RE: Tell me about Mudcat From: Amos Date: 06 Aug 08 - 04:45 PM 196 poster handles, including Guests of various degrees; 659 posts 3.36 avergae posts per handle. THis is just today so far. A |
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