BS: 'Truth' about women.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Apr 09 - 07:17 PM

"the God Misogyn "

Obviously, a doctor who prescribes Miso for women's ailments.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 12:43 AM

Is it my imagination, or what?.....This thread has gotten somewhere, between the ridiculous, and the absurd. I wonder why...(but not wondering hard!).

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Bert
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 11:44 PM

...Men look at faces?:-) ... LOL kat.

reminds me of the time that Tree asked me 'who has nice lips on TV' I said 'Seven of Nine' she said 'You NOTICED her LIPS!!!'

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Apr 09 - 09:57 AM

Kathy Lee Gifford has a book out regarding the truth about women. Its called "I thought I dropped my last egg...

or something to that effect.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 05:56 AM

"This is the same reason men generally find large breasts in women attractive--it suggests strong maternal capabilities, even though that is not a rational correlation to make."

Sure isn't rational; the 'truth'? maybe not either

The amount of fatty tissue and the size of the breast are not related to the ability to produce milk

At the risk of raining on the attempt to rationalize some male obsessions with female breast size, breastfeeding can present special challenges for the large breasted woman and can, in extreme instances, lead to hypernatraemic dehydration in infants.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 08:17 AM

And this article seems to let on the truth about men... at least in Britain.

I will put it all here, since so many can't be bothered to read articles from clickies before commenting...




Does Beer (Goggling) Affect Whom We Find Attractive?
By John Cloud Monday, Apr. 27, 2009

There's no better place to ask such questions than in Britain, where the culture of alcohol and inappropriate sex is so ingrained that it is subjected to rigorous academic inquiry. Recently, a pair of research psychologists — Vincent Egan of the University of Leicester and Giray Cordan of the University of Exeter — completed a survey of 240 subjects, half of whom had been drinking, to find out how drinkers and non-drinkers experience attraction. What they found was interesting, if a bit creepy. (Learn about addiction and the brain.)

The creepy part has to do with how all people, not just drinkers, rate the attractiveness of minors. Researchers have known for years that adults have a deep appreciation for neoteny, the retention of juvenile features like large eyes and baby-smooth skin in adults. Our fondness for neoteny is both obvious — most people find other people with youthful features to be attractive — and unsettling. Appreciating neotenous features isn't the same as being sexually attracted to children, but at least one study has found that average, college-age heterosexual males and child molesters share remarkably similar (and deeply neotenous) attractions: high cheekbones, unwrinkled eyes, glabrous skin.

Evolution, in short, favors nubile females who still look like they have a great many years of fertility ahead of them. Evolutionary impulses are more complicated for women, who tend to seek men who are powerful and can provide maximum care for their offspring, and such men aren't always young-looking. Gay men have two equally enthusiastic subcultures favoring twinks or bears — guys who look like they are in their teens and guys who look like they could be your dad.

The new study, set to be published in June in the 100th issue of the British Journal of Psychology, examined how alcohol plays into all these murky attractions to youth. The vast majority of men don't act on their potentially inappropriate, or criminal, impulses, but can those who do blame the booze?

The study's authors, Egan and Cordan, asked their 120 drinking and 120 sober participants to rate the attractiveness of 15-year-old girls versus 19-year-old girls shown in photographs. The study participants were evenly divided between men and women. For ethical and legal reasons, the photos were actually altered images of 17-year-old students from McMaster University in Ontario; they had given permission for their likenesses to be used. Researchers digitally manipulated the pictures to make the students' craniofacial features look like those of typical 15-year-olds or those of 19-year-olds. The doctored pictures were then shown in random order to participants recruited in bars, airport lounges, cafes and other natural settings.

On average, the participants found the "15-year-olds" slightly more attractive than the "19-year-olds," which reconfirms our inclination toward neoteny. Both men and women found the more youthful images of girls to be a bit more attractive than the older ones.

Surprisingly, drinking had little impact on the results. Both drinkers and nondrinkers tended to favor the 15-year-old girls over the older ones, and when asked to estimate the younger girls' age, both groups of participants overestimated them to be just over 18 — or, just over the legal age for sex in the U.S. (The one condition under which drinkers preferred the 19-year-old faces was when they were wearing makeup, which has the effect of smoothing out wrinkles and granting a younger appearance — a finding won't come as a great surprise to any woman who has ever worn rouge.)

The study suggests that guys who claim they were too drunk to notice that a girl was underage are probably lying, since drunkenness doesn't have much to do with one's ability to estimate age or attractiveness. But that raises a disturbing conclusion: you don't have to be drunk to think the girl next door looks better than your wife. It may be wired into your genes.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Joe_F
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 04:44 PM

Other primates don't have protruding breasts, so there must be something special about our species to account for our males' preference for them. A theory that I read a long time ago was the following: Originally, men pursued women as they pursued game -- from behind; so it was helpful to be attracted by buttocks. Then language was invented, with the consequence that women were pursued primarily from the front, and so corresponding protuberances were selected for. An explanation as charming as that does not have to be true.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 04:48 PM

Does it follow from that that men like nipples because nipples look like pimples on a rump?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 06:59 PM

lol

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 07:06 PM

"Black women don`t have the same body image problems as white women. They are proud of their bodies. Black men love big butts" Quote by Tyra Banks

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: meself
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 11:06 PM

"our males' preference for them" [that is, "protruding breasts"]

Once again: has this ever been established scientifically, or is it just modern folklore?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 11:15 PM

I think the author of "The Naked Ape", (Desmond Morris?) set forth the breasts-as-substitute-buns thing as fact, but I've no idea if it was original with him. I suspect that there isn't really a grain of anything but conjecture there. I think he also informed the world of the "fact" that lipstick was invented to make lips look more like vaginal labia. I'm, uh, not totally convinced of that, either.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Apr 09 - 11:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJfFGgzhfhY&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 12:01 AM

Sorry, the last link I gave was incorrect(don't know how that happened)
this one is correct!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH9SckpojCA&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 12:14 AM

Try this one, if the others didn't work...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH9SckpojCA&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 12:16 AM

If none of those worked, delete them. I copied them, from my address bar, but when I tried them, they didn't work...shrugs shoulders

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: beardedbruce
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 07:03 AM

Joe F.

Look at "The Descent of Women" by Elaine Morgan, ( NOT the one by Sontag!!!)

Well worth reading.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Truth' about women.
From: Joe_F
Date: 28 Apr 09 - 09:55 PM

Thanks for the reference, bb. %^)