BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Greg F.
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 09:00 PM

Which of course doesn't stop some Mudcatters, longtime Olympic champions in Leaping to Conclusions, from favoring us with their wisdom.

Nor, obviously, does it stop know-all clowns like yourself, oh Simple Seeker After Truth and Source Of All Knowledge and Wisdom.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 09:48 PM

Sending prayers to the victims and those who love them. Boston's a little more than an hour from where I live. I know people who have participated in the past, but I'm not sure if anyone I know was participating this year. When I got to the Y late this afternoon the class instructor said her husband was one of the runners but he was already on his way home.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Greg F.
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 09:59 PM

You forgot "Oklahoma City: Terrorism", Rap.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 10:58 PM

maeve...good to hear about your friends,too.

A lot are using FB since the cellphones are off. That's ho we found out Roger's nephew and friend, who live there, are okay. it's going to be a long night there.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: olddude
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:07 PM

First thing I would be looking at is young man, probably exchange student or home grown disgruntled young man dollars to donuts a student. The device from what I see contained a high degree of alcohol in the mixture hence the color of the smoke. Peroxide perhaps but I don't think so ... Al Queda are far more experienced but can't rule out a newbee recruit. I suspect we have a home grown lone wolf or exchange student type as in the NYC attempt. Anyway, I leave it up to the pro-filers that know better.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Songwronger
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:21 PM

A friend of mine went to Boston for this race. His first one. He wanted to wait until he turned 60 so he might have a chance as a newbie in that age group. Hope he's all right.

At any rate, from Massachusetts Governor Patrick's press conference:

Reporter: "Is this another false flag attack staged to take our civil liberties?"

Patrick: "No. Next question."

Thank God we've learned to question the government's role in these incidents first.

The Boston Globe reported a drill by the bomb squad today. "Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities." Here's a screen capture of the Globe's tweet activity. Big crowd in Boston, confusion, so why are the police running a bomb drill? In London they were running a bomb exercise during the 7/7 bombings, and on 9/11 they were running drills simulating hijacked planes flying into the towers. "Terrorist activity" during government drills is becoming a tired old M.O.

We'll never know the full truth about this bombing, of course, but at least we've learned to suspect the government FIRST in these situations.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: TIA
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:21 PM

Atlanta Georgia: terrorism (Olympic Park)
Killings of DAs and Corrections Officers: terrorism

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Apr 13 - 11:31 PM

Of course it was terrorism. And no, I did not forget it or the World Trade Center or the Pentagon or Flight 93 or the first WTC bombings or a whole lot of other things.

Anything that is intended to or does spread terror is terrorism.

Now I'll wait.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: olddude
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 12:26 AM

One thing for sure, it was NOT a pro .. at all ... home grown terrorist that cooked from the internet sites or a newbee radical recruit. I bet they nail the bastard in a month or less

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:10 AM

Rap, you need a better dictionary or brain. Terrorism is the use of indiscriminate violence against non-combatants for political religious or military purposes.

A drive-by shooting is not for any such purposes and there is as yet no evidence that the Boston attack was for any such purposes.


I also note the incredible jaw-dropping stupidity of the idea that the whole thing might have been a government plot to assist it to pass repressive legislation.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: ragdall
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:14 AM

olddude,
My money is on your theory. I'm predicting it will be someone between the ages of 15 and 30, who grew up in the USA.
   
When there is already so much illness and misery in this world, why does some idiot believe s/he has the right/need to inflict more on strangers?

rags

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: skarpi
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:36 AM

good morning ,I was watching this event from the beginning and this is terrible ..but when I was watching the CBS news after a moment , men in
a army clothes come in and start helping taken down the fence and also saw I men with a back bag in army clothes ..how come this people comes so quick ???

I was asked , who will America invade after this ?? ..now you know how some people in the world think about your Government ....??

I said I have no idea , but I start to think , am I save to travel
to Getaway this Autumn ...I wonder ..
I am going to think about it .

all the best Skarpi Iceland .

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Joybell
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:47 AM

We're watching this with horror too. True-love walked those streets, sang and played in the area in the 60s. Our thoughts are with all of you.
Joy

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: flying cat
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 04:18 AM

to all my friends in Boston, I hope you are all well and not involved.   My thoughts are with those who are suffering with their injuries and everyone who has been affected by this horrific event.
My heart is heavy to think that there is so much hate in the world.

Moira

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: ranger1
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 07:36 AM

Skarpi, don't worry too much about it. I think the people you saw were probably Boston PD's tactical team and maybe the National Guard. None of them come from too far away. Please don't let this stop you from coming to the Getaway.

As for my thoughts on the whole thing and terrorism in general, well, this article mirrors my thoughts exactly.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 07:57 AM

"Reuters) - Two bombs packed with ball bearings tore through crowds near the finish of the Boston Marathon, killing three people and triggering a massive hunt for those behind an attack the White House said would be treated as "an act of terror".

Officials said more than 100 people were wounded by the devices, which were packed with gunpowder and shrapnel to maximize injuries, according a senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation who declined to be named.

"I saw people who looked like they had their legs blown off. There was a lot of blood over their legs. Then people were being pushed in wheelchairs," said Joe Anderson, 33, a fisherman from Pembroke, Massachusetts, who had just run the race holding a large U.S. flag.

Some victims would require further surgery in the coming days, said Peter Fagenholz, a trauma surgeon at Massachusetts General Hospital.

"We're seeing a lot of shrapnel injuries" from small metal debris, Fagenholz told reporters outside the hospital. Doctors treated 29 people, of whom eight were in a critical condition.

An eight-year-old boy was among the dead, the Boston Globe reported, citing two law enforcement sources briefed on the investigation. A two-year-old was being treated at Boston Children's Hospital for a head wound, the hospital said.

White House officials and investigators said it was too early to say whether the Boston attacks were carried out by a foreign or homegrown group or to identify a motive.

The attack was the worst bombing on American soil since far-right militant and U.S. citizen Timothy McVeigh set off a massive truck bomb that destroyed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people."




From another (AP) site:

"
Roupen Bastajian, a state trooper from Smithfield, R.I., had just finished the race when he heard the explosions.

"I started running toward the blast. And there were people all over the floor," he said. "We started grabbing tourniquets and started tying legs. A lot of people amputated. ... At least 25 to 30 people have at least one leg missing, or an ankle missing, or two legs missing."

At Massachusetts General Hospital, Alasdair Conn, chief of emergency services, said: "This is something I've never seen in my 25 years here ... this amount of carnage in the civilian population. This is what we expect from war."

As many as two unexploded bombs were found near the end of the 26.2-mile course as part of what appeared to be a well-coordinated attack, but they were safely disarmed, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because of the continuing investigation."

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 08:36 AM

"...the incredible jaw-dropping stupidity of the idea that the whole thing might have been a government plot to assist it to pass repressive legislation "

Get used to it, Richard - there are thousands (millions?) of such anti-government idiots in the US of A and the number is growing daily. Gooble the "Oath Keepers" or take a walk thru the Southern Poverty Law Center site at www.splcenter.org

Its pretty likely that spokesmorons from the National Rifle Assassinatiion will shortly be suggesting the same thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 08:50 AM

I was wondering if Fox News had blamed Obama yet. They will soon enough. But now the fringe Mudcatters have blamed "The Gummit" already.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 08:55 AM

"fringe"

You are being much too charitable.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 08:58 AM

Here's another one, just like the other one: Westboro to picket Boston funerals, blames 'fag marriage' for bombings

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 09:03 AM

Richard, if you think that a drive-by shooting isn't done to instill terror in others your definition of terror is too narrow.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 09:19 AM

>>From: Rapparee - PM
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 09:03 AM

Richard, if you think that a drive-by shooting isn't done to instill terror in others your definition of terror is too narrow.<<

From what I have read terror is all most never the primary purpose.

Not all murder is terrorism. Sometimes people kill people because they want them dead.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 09:26 AM

But often, they also want others to *see* someone get dead as well.
Very grey area.
Lots of room to call many things terrorism.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 09:37 AM

Lots of reason not to lump so many things into one word.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 09:39 AM

As of Tuesday morning, no persons or group had claimed credit for twin explosions at the finish line near Boston's Copley Square. The Pakistani Taliban, a group that has threatened the United States in the past, denied participation, according to the Associated Press.
Law enforcement officials questioned an injured Saudi national at a local hospital, but news stories indicated that the individual appears to have no connection to the case. The Boston Globe reported that he was simply a frightened spectator who had tried to flee but was tackled and restrained by bystanders.
On Monday night agents from the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), and other law enforcement agencies raided a unit in a high-rise apartment on Ocean Drive in the seaside Boston suburb of Revere, according to information posted online by a participating local fire department. Several bags, including what appeared to be a large duffel bag, were removed from the scene. Authorities were mum as to the specifics of their suspicions but confirmed that the Revere search was related to the case.
Rep. William Keating (D) of Massachusetts, a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, told a local CBS reporter that the two bombs at the finish line, which exploded seconds apart, had been stashed in trash receptacles and were clearly a "coordinated attack." Authorities have discovered two other unexploded devices, he told Boston's WBZ News.
Other reports said no unexploded devices had been found. A reported fire at Boston's John F. Kennedy Presidential Library turned out to be the result of an electrical problem and was unrelated to the marathon bombs, according to Boston police.
NBC News reported that the explosive devices near the finish line had been packed with ball bearings to enhance their lethality. Doctors treating some of the 126 wounded at local hospitals said many had been hurt by metal shrapnel, though they added it was unclear whether the metal in question had simply been part of the environment or was the result of a shredded trash receptacle.
Police have issued an alert for a rental van that may have tried to gain access to the finish line area and for a man in dark clothing and a hood seen leaving the scene shortly before the blast, reported NBC. Surveillance video shows a hooded figure carrying two backpacks at about that time.
Among the dead is 8-year-old Martin Richard, whose father was running in the race. The boy's mother and sister were also gravely injured, according to a Boston Globe report. The family had gathered at the finish line for cheers and celebrations.
...
One thing is clear: The bomber or bombers were not highly skilled. The explosive devices were relatively crude compared with those produced overseas by Al Qaeda or other radical Islamist terrorist groups, RAND Corp. terror expert Brian Jenkins told Los Angeles television. They were much smaller than the powerful truck bomb that Timothy McVeigh used to devastate the federal building in Oklahoma City in April 1995.
In that sense they were analogous to the pipe bombs that killed two and injured 100 in 1996 at Atlanta's Centennial Park during the Olympics.
The fact that the target was an event of great significance to Boston but not particularly significant to the wider world could indicate that the bomber was a local or at least a native of the United States. The explosions occurred on April 15, tax day, which could be a further indication of a domestic connection.
But the bombs were not directed against a government building or institution, which is often a hallmark of disaffected, lone-wolf domestic terrorists, noted some terrorism analysts. And the style of the attack, in which one explosion was closely followed by another, mimics that used by numerous groups in the Middle East.
One government official told the Los Angeles Times that his guess would be "self-radicalized Islamic extremists from the area."

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Wesley S
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 10:06 AM

Bruce - how about giving credit to the author of that article while you're at it??

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 10:36 AM

http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/2013/04/boston-marathon-bombing-feds-raid.html

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 11:55 AM

"And the style of the attack, in which one explosion was closely followed by another, mimics that used by numerous groups in the Middle East."

I wouldn't read much into that. It's fairly standard practice - for example the IRA used to do it that way as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 12:21 PM

Appalled and terribly saddened after watching the BBC News today. How can killing, maiming and ruining the lives of innocent civilians (many of them young children) ever be seen as a good thing to do, no matter what the beliefs or political stance of the perpetrator/s? Such wickedness and evil. Those seriously maimed will have months or years of painful and exhausting rehabilitation ahead of them. Those bereaved will never fully heal their lives. Thoughts and prayers for all concerned.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 12:26 PM

McGrath-

Agreed. I think it is still too early to tell, with too little known even of what evidence has been found. I would hope they are not releasing ALL the information to the press right now.


Eliza-

"How can killing, maiming and ruining the lives of innocent civilians (many of them young children) ever be seen as a good thing to do, no matter what the beliefs or political stance of the perpetrator/s? "

THAT is what terrorism is- to attack those who are innocent.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 12:30 PM

Have been thinking further about this. Am trying to imagine a person or persons crouched over the devices, chuckling as they fill them with metal debris, nails and steel bearings, perhaps commenting on how 'effective' this will be to cause maximum injury. Then chuckling some more as they decide where to place the bombs, after serious discussion about who will detonate them and how. Afterwards, more glee as the reports come in of the sickening sights and trauma. Now, what in the world makes people so intrinsically wicked that such acts are considered a success and generate a certain pride in the appalling results? I remember seeing on TV an muslim woman in Kabul handing round sweets just after 9/11, and ululating with joy. Totally incomprehensible. God help us all.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 12:33 PM

Al Q. would have claimed it by now.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 12:41 PM

Praise, but no claim.



"Jordan extremist praises Boston bombing
By JAMAL HALABY | Associated Press – 17 hrs ago

AMMAN, Jordan (AP) — The head of an extremist Jordanian Muslim Salafi group said early Tuesday that he was "happy to see the horror in America" after the explosions in Boston.
"American blood isn't more precious than Muslim blood," said Mohammad al-Chalabi, who was convicted in an al-Qaida-linked plot to attack U.S. and other Western diplomatic missions in Jordan in 2003.
"Let the Americans feel the pain we endured by their armies occupying Iraq and Afghanistan and killing our people there," he said early Tuesday.
Al-Chalabi served seven years in prison for his part in the foiled attack. His group is outlawed in Jordan.
A Mideast counterterrorism official based in Jordan said the blasts "carry the hallmark of an organized terrorist group, like al-Qaida." He did not give actual evidence linking al-Qaida to the bombing.
"From the little information available, one can say it was a well-coordinated, well-targeted and near-simultaneous attack," he said. "Luckily, the amount of explosives used is small, judging from the casualty figure and explosion area."
A Jordanian security official said security was beefed up around the U.S. Embassy in Amman after the bombing in Boston.
"As the unfortunate news unfolded, we immediately stationed more police patrols around the embassy," he said. He declined to disclose any details, citing the sensitive nature of the information.
Both officials insisted on anonymity, as they were not authorized to brief reporters on security matters."

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: GUEST,Lavengro
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:02 PM

TIA made the comment about the link to photos posted by BB being ghastly and you would be hard pushed to disagree.

But you know what? I personally think that we could do with more honesty like that in our media. Why? Because that is the reality of violence against our fellow human beings and I think (obviously not on breakfast TV with young eyes present)that the innocent victims of such violence deserve to have that fully understood. We don't get that by well groomed newsreaders presenting a piece to camera telling us that the injuries were "horrific".

Too many see the results of exposions on TV shows and seem to not be able to transition that to reality and think that well arranged corpses and a hero with ringing in his ears is the result.

Seeing the honest results of violence increases support for actions against it and in preventing it and lessens the appetite for it from the political apologists (of all persuasions) standing in the wings with a half baked justification.

I speak as someone who has served and seen the results. Totally different to attacking civilians I know, but I wanted to give context to some of my comment.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:07 PM

Thank you, Lavengro. For your comments and your service.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:12 PM

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The explosives used in the deadly Boston Marathon bombing were contained in 6-liter pressure cookers and hidden in black duffel bags on the ground, a person briefed on the investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

One of the explosives contained shards of metal and ball bearings, and another contained nails, the person said.

A second person briefed on the investigation confirmed that at least one of the explosives was made out of a pressure cooker. Both spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

Two bombs blew up seconds apart Monday at the finish line of one of the world's most storied races, tearing off victims' limbs and leaving the streets spattered with blood and strewn with broken glass. Three people were killed, including an 8-year-old boy, and more than 170 were wounded.

President Barack Obama said called the explosions a terrorist attack and said law enforcement and intelligence officials were trying to determine who was responsible. No one has claimed responsibility for the bombings.

These types of pressure cooker explosives have been used in Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan, according to a July 2010 joint FBI and Homeland Security intelligence report. One of the three devices used in the May 2010 Times Square attempted bombing was a pressure cooker, the intelligence report said.

"Placed carefully, such devices provide little or no indication of an impending attack," the report said.

The Pakistani Taliban, which claimed responsibility for the 2010 attempt in Times Square, has denied any role in the Boston Marathon attack.

Law enforcement has not yet determined what was used to set off the explosives. Typically, these bombs have an initiator, switch and explosive charge, according to a 2004 warning from the Homeland Security Department about these types of explosives.

"We will go to the ends of the Earth to identify the subject or subjects who are responsible for this despicable crime, and we will do everything we can to bring them to justice," said Richard DesLauriers, FBI agent in charge in Boston.

Investigators in Boston are combing surveillance tapes and pictures from Monday."

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:42 PM

Let's hope they get them.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:44 PM

Yes, Lavrengo the people of the USA (and many other 1st world countries) should definitely (and literally) see what goes on here and elsewhere. In Afghanistan, there are on average three child casualties of landmines or UXO per day (UN statistics) in a population of about 3 million. In the USA with population 300 million, that would equate to 300 child casualties per day, and the Kardashians would be driven from the news.
Boston is ghastly.
So is what goes on elsewhere with even greater frequency.
Zero comfort to the victims and families in Boston.
What a world.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 01:59 PM

"The Taliban said they didn't carry out the bombing, but they supported it. The Somali Islamist insurgent group Al-Shabab mocked the dead and wounded on its English-language Twitter feed."


http://news.yahoo.com/boston-marathon-bombing-reactions-around-world-104500376.html

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:28 PM

I am selfishly proud of myself for not having a big PTSD-type reaction this time, although I'd hate to think I was getting used to this... and I am guessing home-grown terrorists this time, not imported, but only because the Bostom Marathon is a local event, rather than a national one.

With the track record of the Fibbies on these I also think they may catch the actual individuals. I was very impressed after Oklahoma City and the first World Trade Center bombing.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:32 PM

No certainty it was homegrown- This was Israel's Independence Day.

"JERUSALEM — Israelis celebrated 65 years of independence on Tuesday, with over a million people pouring into national parks "

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:37 PM

(Today- the 16th.) Was it after sundown in Mecca or Jerusalum when the explosions went off?

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:45 PM

Hmmm. Interesting, yesterday was Israeli Independence Day and Irish-American Boston is bombed. A connection? Probably a stretch there I think.

You may be right, Mrrzy, but so far the only person detained as "a person of interest" is a Saudi national, according to CBS News, among other sources.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:46 PM

If for Israeli Independence, why Boston?
Not an antagonistic question at all, just pondering...

I think amateurishness, Boston location, Patriot's Day, Tax Day, etc. all point to homegrown. Just my opinion, and a totally uninformed one at that.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 02:51 PM

Pedants unite!

Terrorism is the use of indiscriminate violence towards non-combatants for military, religious, or political purposes. Repeat, for the slow of understanding. For military, religious, or political purposes.

We do not yet know the purposes if any of the Boston murderer(s) so we do knot know whether they are terrorists. Simply killing lots of people is not terrorism, unless there is a relevant purpose and indeed killing lots of combatants is not terrorism - for example the sinking of the Belgrano was not terrorism, whether or not it complied with the laws of military engagement. This point, purely philologically speaking, puts a question mark over the Twin Towers, for those there attacked were combatants in the economic and cultural colonialisation of Islamic peoples. I still don't approve of the Twin Towers attack, but it would be nice to avoid linguisitic creep.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: bobad
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 03:01 PM

"amateurishness"

Not sure how amateur it was as the methodology of the bomb construction is, according to a previous post of Bruce's, of a type that has been employed in several occasions and locales and appears to be straight out of somebody's terrorist playbook.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Bert
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 03:30 PM

Pedants unite! as Richard says.

Two of the media reports above mention ball bearings, when what they really mean is bearing balls. It's hard to trust a report that can't get a simple thing like that correct.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: meself
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 03:30 PM

Richard, I support your point about use and meaning of the word 'terrorism' - however, you are doing with the word 'combatant' exactly the same thing that you wish others to stop doing with the word 'terrorism', i.e., stretching it beyond its original and generally understood meaning in a way that, if pursued, would end up with the word meaning anything, everything, and - nothing. So, yes, j'accuse you of linguistic creep!

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 03:30 PM

Oh, PLEASE Beardie- everything ISN'T about Israel. Or about you, for that matter.

Subject: RE: BS: Explosions at Boston Marathon
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 13 - 03:34 PM

F--K off, greggie.

There are no "Black Democrats" here for you to call "Dumb Ni**ers", so you can crawl back under your rock.